PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[eyalluvitt]

non-cooperation sorry.

 

[Bluechipblue]

What’s funny to me is that IF we were given a points deduction that effectively relegated us before a ball was kicked, it would be so freeing as to unleash a team of world class players in a way that would be otherwise impossible!

Teams would still need points off us, but it wouldn’t matter to us what the score was!

Can anyone imagine if Pep’s team talk was “OK lads, you know what you’re doing…go fuck em up and run up the score as much as you can! Let’s show these fuckers what they’re going to be missing for a year next season!”

City games would be the most entertaining game of the week, every week, if the gloves came off, and Ederson might even get to take a few free kicks and penalties!

Inflatable Bananas for everyone! The Party is coming to town!

Hope there's jelly and ice cream.

 

[citizen_maine]

Am sure they brought in rules so points can be deducted on certain cases! Yep another rule with them knowing down the line they could use it against us!

If we get 3 points deduction Chelsea should get 20 for what they admitted too!

As i understand it, there is nothing in the PL rules detailing specific punishments. It's entirely up to the IC to decide

 

[citizen_maine]

Why don’t we ask Carragher to put on a City shirt and sing Blue Moon in the centre circle while we’re at it.

Haven't we suffered enough?

 

[Truesilverblue]

What does Sheikh Mansour say, he surely must know something with all his powerful connections.

 

[uwe rosler 28]

If we r cleared of all charges but non cooperation how can they say we have not cooperated? We have obviously given them all the accounts that was needed they have been passed they have found no other evidence of what we are accused of so therefore we have cooperated? Or am I missing something?

 

[eyalluvitt]

It’s all so dodgy, UEFA banned us from the CL for two years for two alleged 15m payments they weren’t happy with. Like me dropping a pound down the back of the sofa. On appeal CAS stated thirteen times zero evidence of wrongdoing yet we got a big fine for non-cooperation

 

[citymad]

What's taking so long? Surely they know the result by now.

 

[Mancity1980]

one thing hard to comrehend for me is I thought the charges of non-cooperation/compliance are contingent on main charges.

I mean:
PL to City: 1. you had an agreement with Mancini and paid over the top so Your books are cooked; 2. we demand You to provide us with an agreement,
City to PL: we have never had additional agreement with Mancini
PL to City: alright, we charge you with cooking the books and failing to cooperate

In this way its hard to be found guilty of no cooperation when we been innocent

It’s non-cooperation with the EPL and their enquiries, it is completely different to being found guilty of the charges. It’s what happened with CAS. A points deduction for that is plain wrong because there has been no sporting advance. I would also say that a massive fine for it is wrong too. €10 million was deemed fine in 2020.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I thought we await the decision only ie any fines etc would be a different ruling after the Panels decision.

Nobody knows anything, really, do they?

But I don't want to open that one up again .....

 

[Mancity1980]

It’s all so dodgy, UEFA banned us from the CL for two years for two alleged 15m payments they weren’t happy with. Like me dropping a pound down the back of the sofa. On appeal CAS stated thirteen times zero evidence of wrongdoing yet we got a big fine for non-cooperation

€10 million fine for you and me is massive, for city is pocket change. I agree though, why should we cooperate with jumped up charges?

 

[jamielowndes]

If we r cleared of all charges but non cooperation how can they say we have not cooperated? We have obviously given them all the accounts that was needed they have been passed they have found no other evidence of what we are accused of so therefore we have cooperated? Or am I missing something?

The investigation was by the Premier League, it ran for about 2 years. My estimation of this is that they requested financial information beyond the required info that every club submits every year and we refused. So since they're investigating our finances and we arent cooperating with the investigation, that's where the justification would be.

Honestly, if it's just a fine for that and we're innocent on the important stuff, I'm more than happy.

 

[eyalluvitt]

€10 million fine for you and me is massive, for city is pocket change. I agree though, why should we cooperate with jumped up charges?

It’s ridiculous, you can’t praise the club enough for its dismissive attitude

 

[Bozzie]

Why don’t we ask Carragher to put on a City shirt and sing Blue Moon in the centre circle while we’re at it.

My eyesight isn’t what it used to be and I doubt I’d hit him from the third tier of the South Stand … not that it would stop me from trying!

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I'd take that with a pinch of salt to be honest. I think even Stefan will agree that there's almost zero possibility of a points deduction for non-cooperation, as it hasn't gained us a sporting advantage. If there was a points deduction then we'd certainly appeal that.

It would also mean that the sanction hearing has been held following the main hearing to establish whether we've breached any of the rules. That would in turn mean that the outcome is known, which he's been adamant isn't the case (and I'm not being sarcastic here). The understanding is that the hearing to determine sanctions would only be held once the verdict and reasons had been released.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

There is no way there will be any points deduction for non-cooperation imo. A fine for sure, and possibly a huge one, but can’t see a sporting penalty for something which cannot be said to have given us a sporting advantage unless the particular circumstances are especially egregious.

Rather have nothing, but soon see!

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Why don’t we ask Carragher to put on a City shirt and sing Blue Moon in the centre circle while we’re at it.

only if we can spit on him

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

one thing hard to comrehend for me is I thought the charges of non-cooperation/compliance are contingent on main charges.

I mean:
PL to City: 1. you had an agreement with Mancini and paid over the top so Your books are cooked; 2. we demand You to provide us with an agreement,
City to PL: we have never had additional agreement with Mancini
PL to City: alright, we charge you with cooking the books and failing to cooperate

In this way its hard to be found guilty of no cooperation when we been innocent

CAS found us guilty of non cooperation btw.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

CAS found us guilty of non cooperation btw.

But we genuinely and deliberately didn't cooperate with UEFA's Investigatory panel, so that's not really a problem. I'm assuming we've handed over everything the PL asked for.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

But we genuinely and deliberately didn't cooperate with UEFA's Investigatory panel, so that's not really a problem. I'm assuming we've handed over everything the PL asked for.

soon see I suppose. you will know more than I do