Holidays in America?

AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Have been a few times....admittedly all to Orlando, Florida...really enjoyed it at the time.....but it wouldnt be anywhere near the top of my list of potential holidays....and stories like this dont sit well either

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/travel/tr...a-by-three-days/ar-AA1IF0Qy?ocid=BingNewsSerp


Irish guy over stayed his 90 day visa by three days, as he was told he couldnt travel for medical reasons. Of course rules are rules etc, but to be locked up for 100 days is a bit excessive
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That story simply isn't true, certainly not in the way it's been presented.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
There's a lot more to it apparently. But one media outlet runs it and others pick it up unquestioningly.
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Yes I read that and agree with you. Right towards the end of the story (and most likely a few paragraphs after most readers had given up) it said he was arrested in a hotel after a fellow resident called the police. It said he had “a mental episode” and the police charged him with false imprisonment - a charge his girlfriend said didn’t happen, but something did happen!

Had that incident not happened he’d never have been picked up and could have flown home a few days later
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Yes I read that and agree with you. Right towards the end of the story (and most likely a few paragraphs after most readers had given up) it said he was arrested in a hotel after a fellow resident called the police. It said he had “a mental episode” and the police charged him with improvement - a charge his girlfriend said didn’t happen, but something did happen!

Had that incident not happened he’d never have been picked up and could have flown home a few days later
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And I also read he could have extended his visa but didn't go through the correct procedure.
 
Eccles Blue said:
Last time I was coming back from Canada I had to fly Vancouver to Seattle to change planes and the guy at Vancouver immigration said how long will you be staying in America and when I said only about 3 hours he said good choice! ;-)
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Funny, same question was asked of us last time we flew to Vancouver. When we told him three weeks he said ‘that’s not nearly enough time’.
 
Depends on your principles. I have never been when he has been in charge and will not go again whilst he is. Those are my principles.
 
The story about the Irish guy is true, but the reporting in the Guardian was shocking and buried what actually happened. I feel sorry for him regardless, but use your head. Don't play games with visas. Don't get arrested in a foreign country. Certainly don't combine the two, wherever you are in the world.
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Yes I read that and agree with you. Right towards the end of the story (and most likely a few paragraphs after most readers had given up) it said he was arrested in a hotel after a fellow resident called the police. It said he had “a mental episode” and the police charged him with false imprisonment - a charge his girlfriend said didn’t happen, but something did happen!

Had that incident not happened he’d never have been picked up and could have flown home a few days later
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So his girlfriend (the “victim”) says that wasn’t the case and wasn’t to press charges
Prestwich_Blue said:
And I also read he could have extended his visa but didn't go through the correct procedure.
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He was told close to when he was due to leave he couldnt travel…he “missed” the deadline due to being unexpectedly injured/unwell…he certainly tried, including getting the required documentation from the doctor
WT86 said:
The story about the Irish guy is true, but the reporting in the Guardian was shocking and buried what actually happened. I feel sorry for him regardless, but use your head. Don't play games with visas. Don't get arrested in a foreign country. Certainly don't combine the two, wherever you are in the world.
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And regardless, considering his situation and alleged “crime”….do yous honestly think he deserved to be locked up in such a manner for 100days?
 
mexico1970 said:
It's that bad that people are fighting on the streets to stay in it.
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47.8 million foreign-born in 2023.

The number of foreign-born residents in the United States grew from 41.3M in 2013 to 47.8M in 2023.

1 in 7 residents in the United States are foreign-born.

In 2023, California had the highest foreign-born population share at 27.3%, while West Virginia had the lowest at 1.8%. Among metro areas, from 2018 to 2022, Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL had the highest foreign-born population share at 41.5%, and Beckley, West Virginia had the lowest at 0.9%.

In 2023, Massachusetts saw 18.1% of it's 7.5 million residents as foreign-born. Massachusetts is the state with the highest American HDI, and is 4th globally.

The US grants about a million "green cards" (Permanent Resident Status) every year.

For 2023 the following were granted:

Lawful Permanent Resident "Green card" 1,018,349
Diversity Visa "Green Card" 47,306
Naturalizations 878,500
Refugee Admissions 60,014
Asylum Grants 43,594
Temporary Workers 685,000
International Students 1,057,188
Immigrant Visa Issuance 422,237
Nonimmigrant Visas 8,468,000

Foreign-born STEM workers 23% of all STEM positions.
Foreign-born health-care 18% of all workers.
Foreign-born agricultural workers 51% of all employed in that sector.
44% of Fortune 500 companies founded by immigrants or their children.

Naturalizations 2023 top countries - Mexico, India, Philippines, China, Vietnam, Cuba, Dominican, El Salvador.

El Salvador had only 25,338 naturalizations. I guess that is more than any European country.







 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
And regardless, considering his situation and alleged “crime”….do yous honestly think he deserved to be locked up in such a manner for 100days?
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Of course not, but if you end up in immigration custody that's often what happens. ICE has the right to detain you and make sure you leave. The system is swamped and everything takes forever.

Remember he was arrested traveling down in Georgia from WV, which didn't help his claim that he couldn't travel back to Ireland. Combine that with getting picked up in a domestic incident, with apparent mental health issues, and you can see the logic for keeping him off the streets. It's an ugly incident but I don't think it should concern people coming over on holiday for a couple weeks.
 
In Florida at the moment in the middle of a 2 week family holiday, had zero issues, same as always coming to the States. Found all migration officers, Police and security I've come across as friendly people. Simply have the right paper work and don't break the law and you will be absolutely fine. Oh and don't listen to everything you hear or read in the news.
 
Superace said:
In Florida at the moment in the middle of a 2 week family holiday, had zero issues, same as always coming to the States. Found all migration officers, Police and security I've come across as friendly people. Simply have the right paper work and don't break the law and you will be absolutely fine. Oh and don't listen to everything you hear or read in the news.
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Last time I was there in 2017 the i4 was horrendous, basically a 24 hour car park, it also pissed it down every day but it was June.
 
give it to gordon said:
It puzzles me why people want to go to Disneyland let alone America as well.

I dont like Disney, I dont like guns so I'll never go to America
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I’ve been here 14 years and never once seen a gun pulled on anyone.
In Florida you have more chance of being attacked by an alligator - and that’s unlikely to happen too
 
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