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feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Probably implicates people on both side of the political spectrum as a guess. Here we are though talking about the leader of the free world being implicated with a child sex trafficker. The American public knew what baggage came with him but they still voted for him.
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The only potential possibility here, is thst the file implicated both Biden and Trump. Because knowing how hard Biden and the Dems tried to derail Trump's campaign, there is no doubt in my mind that an Epstein connection that didn't implicate Biden wiuld have been released. If not used as a basis for charging Trump.


There are imly 2 potential realities here:

1. Trump is not implicated here ( most likely scenario,)

2. Trump is, but unfortunately so was Biden. Hence why the Democrats couldn't or didn't use it.


But hey, its a new scandal to bite into. But for what its worth, regardless vof the politics Dems are playing with this, this info MUST come out. And punishment for the complicit MUST commence.
 
Elbow beards said:
What I don't understand though, if these files are so toxic to Trump, why didn't the Dems release them when they were in power or were they quietly told not to by some very powerful people?
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Perhaps they are very damaging to a few Democrats as well?
It all makes sense once you realise that democracy is just an illusion to keep us in our place, whilst the people who have always run the country (there and here) just get on, keep taking more and more for themselves, whist commanding the media to report things to keep us all arguing with each other, whilst they keep shovelling the cash...
 
Dax777 said:
A questions anyone with half a brain should have asked. But don't bet on finding that here :)
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Actually, I think that there is one who fits that description perfectly.

And to pre-empt the MAGA favourite 'but what about...' response - it doesn't matter whether there are Democrats on the list.

That doesn't absolve or dilute Trump's involvement.

Also, Democrats didn't ever promise to publish the Epstein files, as far as I can remember. Neither did half the administration go on video record swearing to pursue the perpetrators - no matter what - only to then pull a 180⁰ when ordered to by their puppet master.
 
noseve said:
Actually, I think that there is one who fits that description perfectly.

And to pre-empt the MAGA favourite 'but what about...' response - it doesn't matter whether there are Democrats on the list.

That doesn't absolve or dilute Trump's involvement.

Also, Democrats didn't ever promise to publish the Epstein files, as far as I can remember. Neither did half the administration go on video record swearing to pursue the perpetrators - no matter what - only to then pull a 180⁰ when ordered to by their puppet master.
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You've mossed the point. But that's ok. Like my sentiment already shows, i want the Epstein files released.

But the original point was about the likelihood of Trump being implicated directly. Considering how many spurious legal attempts at derailment that the Dems tried during the election.

It's hard to believe they had Trump dead to rights on Epstein but decided "Nah!!!! We don't want to use that "

That just doesn't pass the sniff test.
 
Let's get to the point shall we?

It started with concern about the victimization of teenage girls. Now, the cult has turned it into Trump as victim.

Trump-MAGA: I am the victim. I am always the victim. I have been victimized my entire life. So unfair. Also I am unlucky. I am one of the unluckiest men alive. No matter who I associate with they end up indicted, convicted, disbarred or tell people I am an immoral, lying, piece of shit which is a lie of course I am wonderful but I do not lie and I never have. Believe me.

My followers must stop talking about the Epstein hoax because it is "sordid" and "boring" but no they must now talk about it because it is an Obama Deep State hoax designed to victimize me but remember they're not after me they are after you am I just in the way so really you are all the victims and I am sent by God and how like Jesus I am he was victimized too such a witch hunt!
 
Dax777 said:
You've mossed the point. But that's ok. Like my sentiment already shows, i want the Epstein files released.

But the original point was about the likelihood of Trump being implicated directly. Considering how many spurious legal attempts at derailment that the Dems tried during the election.

It's hard to believe they had Trump dead to rights on Epstein but decided "Nah!!!! We don't want to use that "

That just doesn't pass the sniff test.
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Yeah sure, it’s not like Trump is a career criminal and convicted sex offender is it. He’s a victim, and of course Pam Bondi just misspoke when she said she had the files on her desk. Blah blah.
 
I don't think that anyone believes that someone would repeatedly visit the island home of an accused paedophile and his convicted sex-trafficker girlfriend without indulging in the pleasures on offer. When the same individual is an abuser of women, who boasts of grabbing women by the pussy, and boasts of wandering into teen changing rooms, it becomes less believable. Then, we add Bondi's admission that she told Trump that he was named in the Epstein files, and, naturally, people will believe that he has something to hide. The reality appears to be that there are a serious number of extremely wealthy and successful people with links to Epstein and Maxwell, and the list of Epstein's contacts can easily be downloaded, as I have done. Anyone thinking that the abuse of children is a matter for Dem/Republican point scoring needs their head feeling.
 
oldius said:
I don't think that anyone believes that someone would repeatedly visit the island home of an accused paedophile and his convicted sex-trafficker girlfriend without indulging in the pleasures on offer. When the same individual is an abuser of women, who boasts of grabbing women by the pussy, and boasts of wandering into teen changing rooms, it becomes less believable. Then, we add Bondi's admission that she told Trump that he was named in the Epstein files, and, naturally, people will believe that he has something to hide. The reality appears to be that there are a serious number of extremely wealthy and successful people with links to Epstein and Maxwell, and the list of Epstein's contacts can easily be downloaded, as I have done. Anyone thinking that the abuse of children is a matter for Dem/Republican point scoring needs their head feeling.
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His contact list isn't really an indication of involvement in his sordid affairs.

What is though are the countless number of CCTV tapes reported to have been recovered from his numerous residencies including New York and Peado Island.
 
You know that scene in an action movie when the bad guy runs through the kitchen of a restaurant and pulls down all the pots and pans behind him to slow down his pursuers? We're in that part of the Trump presidency.

It's not a cult. They don't think he has been sent by God and persecuted like Jesus.


He's not mentally unstable.

"He who saves his country does not violate any law," Donald Napoleon Trump

""One year ago our Country was DEAD, with almost no hope of revival." Donald Adolf Trump.

"I know better than anybody...what’s good for the U.S.A." Donald Benito Trump

"My uncle knew the unabomber and told me all about it." Donald Obvious Pathological Liar Trump.

"Obama is a traitor it is all a hoax and I have proof Obama was born in Kenya. Send money for sneak preview!" Donald Obvious Con Man Trump.

“Nobody in history has ever gotten more bad publicity than me,” Donald Greatest Victim Trump.

"It's mid-July 2025 and I have ended numerous wars," Donald Delusional Trump.



"Stop talking about victimized teenagers you weaklings! You are doing the devils work. There's nothing to see, no rings, no connected men, no networks, no financing, nothing...except for the "sordid" and "boring" bits of course which don't really exist. Also the whole thing that doesn't exist except for the "sordid" and "boring" bits wasn't just a hoax, it was a Deep State hoax by a black man - a fucking black man with a blatantly un-American name - see what happens when we don't MAGA like 1955? Look, I am the victim! You are the victim! America is the victim!"
Trump, giving his "marching orders" July 2025.
 
Dax777 said:
The only potential possibility here, is thst the file implicated both Biden and Trump. Because knowing how hard Biden and the Dems tried to derail Trump's campaign, there is no doubt in my mind that an Epstein connection that didn't implicate Biden wiuld have been released. If not used as a basis for charging Trump.


There are imly 2 potential realities here:

1. Trump is not implicated here ( most likely scenario,)

2. Trump is, but unfortunately so was Biden. Hence why the Democrats couldn't or didn't use it.


But hey, its a new scandal to bite into. But for what its worth, regardless vof the politics Dems are playing with this, this info MUST come out. And punishment for the complicit MUST commence.
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I would say it's almost certain Trump is involved in the Epstein scandal.

He's been on Epstein's jet, more than likely he's been to the Island, he knew what was going on, was probably there and most likely was involved.

He's already a rapist (okay not by NY definitions but if you stick any part of your body in a women's genitals without consent it's rape in my book), would it be that much of a leap to think he would do worse. I don't understand anyone trying to go to bat for him on this.

Judging by have far this stretches, multiple people are caught up in it, most likely on both sides of the spectrum after all Trump himself has been on both sides of the political fence.
 
MCFC1993 said:
I would say it's almost certain Trump is involved in the Epstein scandal.

He's been on Epstein's jet, more than likely he's been to the Island, he knew what was going on, was probably there and most likely was involved.

He's already a rapist (okay not by NY definitions but if you stick any part of your body in a women's genitals without consent it's rape in my book), would it be that much of a leap to think he would do worse. I don't understand anyone trying to go to bat for him on this.

Judging by have far this stretches, multiple people are caught up in it, most likely on both sides of the spectrum after all Trump himself has been on both sides of the political fence.
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Political affiliation or capital should have zero bearing in any decision to prosecute, and especially for rape or child abuse. You've either committed a crime, or you haven't. That should be the only reason to prosecute someone
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Political affiliation or capital should have zero bearing in any decision to prosecute, and especially for rape or child abuse. You've either committed a crime, or you haven't. That should be the only reason to prosecute someone
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Yeah, the only sides here should be right and wrong, not right and left.

Republican, Democrat, US President, Royal Family, Famous Singer, Famous Actor, if they're implicated the whole house of cards should come crashing down.

If we can't prosecute powerful people for being paedophiles then we have fucking no chance.
 
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