President Trump

From yesterday.

Trump: “It looks like it’s about $3.1 billion.”
Powell: “I’m not aware of that.”
Trump: “It just came out.”
Powell: “You just added in a third building.”
Trump: “It’s a building that’s being built.”
Powell: “It was built five years ago.”

Reminder - Trump is a genius and the greatest POTUS that the infinite mind of God could possibly conceive of. Powell, whom Trump appointed, is "the worst Fed Chair ever" according to Trump earlier in the week.

I really feel for Trump. If you examine his entire life he has been victimized time and again, and has the worst luck of anyone I know. So many people Trump has associated with have ended up in bother...indicted, convicted, fined, barred, disbarred, jailed, witness against him...he even has the bad luck to have a friend and neighbor like Epstein, and such bad luck to hire illegals in his business ventures, and terrible bad luck to have a mentor like Roy Cohn, and we all heard about Trump's bad luck when David Pecker revealed he and Trump's conspiracy to plant fake stories in the media to undermine any political opposition. Such bad luck.

Poor wee Donnie. He can't get a break. Even when people he hires don't end up in trouble with the law, they all betray him by calling him an "idiot", "supremely ignorant", "disinterested and bored by details", "Unable to focus for any length of time", "dangerous and unbalanced" he is "surrounded by conspiracy theorists". So unlucky to spend a lifetime around people you choose only to find all of them think you're a dick. One or two? Sure. So many? Bad luck.
 
BobKowalski said:
You mean you missed the first swing and miss with MLK? Even the far right loons told Trump to fuck off with that one! No one bought it.

Perhaps you need to update your ‘Trump Alert’ App. You don’t want to be out of the loop.
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Which one do you use? Let me know bro :)
 
Normal Person:
Jenna Ellis… “ Guilty Your Honor!
Kenneth Cheseboro… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
Sydney Powell… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
Michael Cohen… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
Allen Weiselberg… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
Rick Gates… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
Paul Manafort… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
George Papadopoulis… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
Roger Stone… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
Michael Flynn… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
George Nader… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
Elliot Brody… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
Steve Bannon… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
Chris Collins… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
Sam Patten… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
Imaaz Zuberi… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
The Trump Corp… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
Trump Payroll Corp… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
Trump Foundation… “ Guilty Your Honor!”
Trump University… “ Guilty Your Honor!”

and so on and so on

MAGA#1
bogus courts - bogus judges - bogus crimes - bogus verdicts
Obama's brain is now officially broken !

MAGA#2
.....amazing he was reelected so easily.

Normal Person:
He was "reelected so easily”? That’s not a flex, it’s a flashing red light.

Trump returned to power with a felony conviction, four arrests, and a legacy of guilty pleas from his inner circle. He didn’t win because the facts changed, he won because the electorate did.

If your takeaway from 34 felony counts is “he’s back, baby,” maybe it’s not democracy you’re celebrating, it’s denial on a national scale.

MAGA#3
You are fake news.

Normal Person:
When you can’t refute the facts, just yell “fake news” and hope it sticks, classic troll playbook.

Every name I listed has a court record, a guilty plea, or a conviction tied to Trump’s orbit. That’s not fake, that’s public record.

If reality feels inconvenient, maybe it’s not the news that’s fake, it’s your comfort zone.

MAGA#2
and STILL y'all LOST....huh

Normal Person:
When your entire defense is “but we still won,” you’re not arguing law, you’re bragging about losing integrity.

Trump’s orbit racked up more guilty pleas than any modern political movement. That’s not a win , it’s a warning.

If convictions are just trophies to you, maybe it’s not justice you’re defending it’s the illusion of it.

MAGA#4
Those cases were not based on justice. They manufactured them. That's why no one can say what he was convicted of. Maybe you as the educator can tell us if you know ? We know you don't because the New York City District Attorney doesn't even know.

Normal Person:
No one can say what he was convicted of”? That’s not just false — it’s courtroom denialism.

Trump was convicted of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in the first degree — each tied to a scheme to conceal hush money payments to Stormy Daniels and mislead voters during the 2016 election. The charges are detailed in CBS News and the official NY Courts docket.

The jury saw six weeks of evidence, 22 witnesses, and nearly 300 exhibits. The crime? Falsifying records to cover up election interference. The verdict? Unanimous. The law? New York Penal Code §175.10.


ALL MAGAS: "Run Away!"
 
flook said:
How do you explain "Trump the candidate campaigning constantly about releasing the Epstein files" then not releasing the Epstein files? Does this not make you ask Why?

Shitgibbon is taking a kicking on this from all quarters and he's not dealing with it very well at all, yet he could effectively end speculation from all other than committed conspiracy theorists by simply doing what he promised to do, and yet he doesn't. Why not?

I would posit there are two reasons

1 - He's implicated
2 - Powerful allies or friends of him are implicated

There are no other reasonable explanations are there
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I agree. But strongly suspect it is #2.

Option 2 is the simplest explanation for all existing facts.
1. It explains why the Dems didn't release the file exposing Trump's involvement. ( I.e. because he isnt implicated.)
2. It explains why he campaigned to release the files because he knew he wasn't on it. But didn't know who was. But now he does and he doesn't want them outed.

By the way, that still sucks and doesn't satisfy the base. We want them all outed and punished.

But there is a 3rd possibility. One no one wants to hear. There is no Epstein clients list.

There was a Harvard lawyer who was accused by one of the Epstein victims, he took her to Court and won. She retracted her claim and suggested it was mistaken identity. That guy claimed there was no list but there is a list of people sone of the victims have accused of wrong doing, and some of those accusations have been proven false Like his.

So its possible what we have are accusations by victims of powerful people, some of which are proven ( like the English royal family member who we've seen pictures of him with one of the victims) and others that are murkier.

My hope is that there is in fact an Epstein lost, and Ghilane has it and releases it
 
www.independent.co.uk

Even the ‘QAnon Shaman’ has turned on Trump

‘F*** Donald Trump!’ the spear-wielding pardoned January 6 rioter, Jacob Angeli-Chansley said Wednesday
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

www.phoenixnewtimes.com

QAnon Shaman calls Trump ‘a piece of shit,’ demands $555 to talk to us

Jacob Chansley was pardoned by Trump for storming the Capitol on Jan. 6. How quickly people forget a favor.
www.phoenixnewtimes.com www.phoenixnewtimes.com

As the old political adage goes, when you’ve lost the QAnon Shaman…

More than five years ago, Phoenix native Jacob Chansley went viral as he and a horde of others stormed the U.S. Capitol shirtless and in a buffalo headdress in a conspiracy-fueled attempt to keep Donald Trump in the White House. Six months ago, Chansley thanked Trump for pardoning him for his role in that insurrection.

On Wednesday morning, in a series of now-deleted tweets, Chansley blasted Trump as a “fraud” and a “stupid piece of shit.”

Chansley’s first missive came at 8:40 a.m. Wednesday in a reply to a 2023 Trump X post that featured the president’s now-infamous mugshot. “Fuck this stupid piece of shit…” Chansley wrote. “What a fraud…” Less than 40 minutes later, Chansley wrote, “Oh yeah & Fuck Israel! And Fuck Donald Trump!” in another post.

“What do you think Epstein & Israel have on Trump??” Chansley posted at 1:22 p.m. on Wednesday. In a post a minute earlier, Chansely insinuated that “in order for Trump to get BACK into the billionaire’s club… he had to fuck a corpse AGAIN.” It’s not entirely clear what that one meant. “THAT is YOUR President!” he continued. “NOT MINE!”

After backlash from MAGA and Trump supporters over his comments, Chansley briefly deleted his account. But it was back by Thursday afternoon. The crashout continued, with Chansley tweeting that Trump “lost me way back in May.”

When Trump took office in January, one of his first actions was to pardon Jan. 6 rioters — including Chansley. In a post on X on Jan. 20, Chansley celebrated the news, writing, “I GOT A PARDON BABY!”

“THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!” he continued. “NOW I AM GONNA BUY SOME MOTHA FU*KIN GUNS!!!”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^see...this is MAGA patriotic masculinity^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"MURICA FUCK YEAH! Don't tread on me HARLEY vroom vroom FUCK YEAH BIG FLAGS warrior WARRIOR!!! MURICA baby motherfucking molon labe from my cold dead hands LIB! FUCK YEAH REAL MEN EAT MEAT RARE DEUS VULT see my tats hell yeah MURICA is back baby! We need more Jesus in THIS COUNTRY!"
 
Dax777 said:
But there is a 3rd possibility. One no one wants to hear. There is no Epstein clients list.
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So why would Pam Bondi say there was a client list on her desk? Why would shitgibbons campaign feature the release of said list so prominently?

If as Bondi later, back-pedalling furiously claimed, she misspoke and actually meant "Epstein‑related evidence" was such evidence frequently (prior to the Bondi statement) referred to as a client list. Frankly I think option 3 is the least likely by a margin to be true. It's almost unthinkable that Epstein wouldn't maintain evidence against high profile clients for his own protection at the very least, and thats without falling down the bribery rabbit hole
 
It was built five years ago.
Imagine being that inept, yet holding such an office.
It is terrifying that he was selected.
 
MAGA!?

english.elpais.com

US defends repatriation of triple murderer who slipped into the prisoner exchange with Venezuela: ‘Many reported being subjected to torture’

Dahud Hanid Ortiz was serving 30 years in a Venezuelan prison for a triple homicide he committed in Spain in 2016. But the State Department applauds that there are no more Americans ‘wrongfully detained’ in the Latin American country
english.elpais.com english.elpais.com

Dahud Hanid Ortiz is a U.S. citizen and former Marine who was convicted of triple murder in Spain. He was sentenced to 30 years in a Venezuelan prison for killing three individuals in a Madrid law office in 2016 which he set on fire to hide his crimes. Spanish authorities said Ortiz stabbed to death two female employees and a client of the law firm.

He was tried and convicted in Venezuela, as Spain's extradition request was denied due to Venezuelan laws.

There is no question he did it.

On July 21, 2025, Ortiz was released as part of a prisoner swap involving the U.S., Venezuela, and El Salvador. He appears to have been classified as a political prisoner. At this time it is believed he is free and moving at-will in the U.S.

Ortiz's release has sparked outrage, particularly from the victims' families and Spanish authorities, who feel deceived by the apparent classification of Ortiz as a political prisoner. They emphasize that he is a convicted murderer, not a victim of wrongful detention.

Speaking on Venezuelan TV on Thursday, Venezuela’s Justice Minister Diosdado Cabello said U.S. officials were told about Ortiz’s conviction but said they still wanted him released.

The U.S. was aware of Ortiz’ past but made the decision to bring him out in the swap anyway, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter.

All told, eight of the 10 Americans freed last week were officially classified by the U.S. government as "wrongfully detained." Ortiz was not classified as such, the official said.
 
flook said:
So why would Pam Bondi say there was a client list on her desk? Why would shitgibbons campaign feature the release of said list so prominently?

If as Bondi later, back-pedalling furiously claimed, she misspoke and actually meant "Epstein‑related evidence" was such evidence frequently (prior to the Bondi statement) referred to as a client list. Frankly I think option 3 is the least likely by a margin to be true. It's almost unthinkable that Epstein wouldn't maintain evidence against high profile clients for his own protection at the very least, and thats without falling down the bribery rabbit hole
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According to one of the lawyers of the victims there are terabytes of data in the files. That can only mean video files.
The administration seems to be pushing the narrative that Maxwell is somehow a 'victim' in all this. The deputy AG released a statement saying she was being 'fully cooperative' during his interview with her yesterday and 'answering all his questions 'truthfully', which is weird given that she's twice been convicted of perjury.

Also, the Dep AG doesn't say what the questions were. I suspect something along the lines of 'Are you prepared to say on the record that DT wasn't a client of dear Jeff?' or 'Can we trust you to keep your mouth shut?''.

It absolutely stinks.
 
Dax777 said:
I agree. But strongly suspect it is #2.

Option 2 is the simplest explanation for all existing facts.
1. It explains why the Dems didn't release the file exposing Trump's involvement. ( I.e. because he isnt implicated.)
2. It explains why he campaigned to release the files because he knew he wasn't on it. But didn't know who was. But now he does and he doesn't want them outed.

By the way, that still sucks and doesn't satisfy the base. We want them all outed and punished.

But there is a 3rd possibility. One no one wants to hear. There is no Epstein clients list.

There was a Harvard lawyer who was accused by one of the Epstein victims, he took her to Court and won. She retracted her claim and suggested it was mistaken identity. That guy claimed there was no list but there is a list of people sone of the victims have accused of wrong doing, and some of those accusations have been proven false Like his.

So its possible what we have are accusations by victims of powerful people, some of which are proven ( like the English royal family member who we've seen pictures of him with one of the victims) and others that are murkier.

My hope is that there is in fact an Epstein lost, and Ghilane has it and releases it
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The third possibility is highly likely. Or that the the list or the files contain little more than logs of people who stayed there including Trump.

But no one was selling the list as fiction. The right and Trump was selling it as fact, and that it will bring down the Deep State and I, Trump, will release it, drain the swamp and bring down the Deep State once and for all.

So, it no longer matters whether the list exists or not. The existence of the list is now an article of faith, and you know how much you Americans are addicted to a faith based belief system and you don’t destroy faith with facts.

The DOJ can say there is no list, or damning evidence, but the cult and the conspiracy nuts were told it exists, so now, it exists. It will always exist and it not only exists but contains the secrets of the Deep State which is why it is protected and Trump is now part of the Deep State! Open your eyes people! Follow the evidence! Yada, yada.

The other reality is that Epstein was holding sex parties and exploiting young girls and Trump was tight with Epstein and a frequent visitor, and since we all know Trump is a sexual predator, as proven in court, then Trump was complicit in the abuse. His silence and actions (or lack of them) prove that. It is likely the frequency of his visits which cross referenced with statements including dates from victims is the truth Trump is trying to suppress. It’s the association he is running from rather than specific allegations.
 
This isn't going away. They're really going for hoax / fake news / Democrat-media conspiracy-collusion.

www.mediaite.com

‘Really Insulting!’ Epstein Victim Who Met Trump Hits Back Hard at White House on MSNBC

Maria Farmer, who says she met Trump in Jeffrey Epstein's office, hit back hard at the White House in an interview with MSNBC's Jen Psaki.
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Epstein victim Maria Farmer, who says she met then-future President Donald Trump in Jeffrey Epstein’s office, hit back hard at the White House in an interview with MSNBC host Jen Psaki, calling their reaction to her experience “really insulting!”

Farmer was the subject of a recent New York Times profile that attempted to connect the dots on Trump’s presence in the so-called “Epstein Files” by virtue of the fact that she reported Trump to law enforcement twice.

Farmer has described meeting Trump at Epstein’s New York office in 1995 when the two were still friends, and recalls Epstein telling a lustful Trump, “No, no. She’s not here for you.”

White House communications director Steven Cheung denied the story in a statement that read, in part, that “The fact is that the President kicked him out of his club for being a creep. This is nothing more than a continuation of the fake news stories concocted by the Democrats and the liberal media.”

On Thursday’s edition of MSNBC’s The Briefing with Jen Psaki, Psaki read the statement from Cheung and asked Farmer about it. Ms. Farmer reacted with outrage:

Psaki:
"...I just wanted to note that in response to that a White House spokesperson responded saying, 'This is recycled, old fake news of the highest order that was already peddled more than six years concocted by Democrats and the liberal media, just like they did with the Russiagate scandal, which was just proven today.'"

MARIA FARMER:
"Right. So, first of all, that’s so insulting! And disingenuous because I reported this in 1996.

And I have to say Donald Trump was a Democrat when I reported him. So him saying that this was a Republican thing, this is not a partisan thing. This is pedophilia! Anyone can be a pedophile!

It’s literally, unfortunately, it just happens to be a lot of Republicans, and that’s a fact.

And those same Republicans want to entertain Ghislaine Maxwell, like Tim Burchett wants to entertain her and flash her around and act like, we victims should not be heard from.

He didn’t want to speak to me. He wanted to speak Ghislaine and give her a voice and an audience.

And my little sister is one of her victims, and so am I. So. This is so damaging and yes, I’m fighting two cancers. So I would like to be able to retire and have my FBI reports so that I can help bring accountability to everyone. It’s not just me, I have the weight of all the young women on my shoulders right now."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"...fake news stories concocted by the Democrats and the liberal media...recycled, old fake news..."

Obama was conspiring against Trump back in the mid-90s. I have to be honest, I'm impressed.
 
BobKowalski said:
The third possibility is highly likely. Or that the the list or the files contain little more than logs of people who stayed there including Trump.

But no one was selling the list as fiction. The right and Trump was selling it as fact, and that it will bring down the Deep State and I, Trump, will release it, drain the swamp and bring down the Deep State once and for all.

So, it no longer matters whether the list exists or not. The existence of the list is now an article of faith, and you know how much you Americans are addicted to a faith based belief system and you don’t destroy faith with facts.

The DOJ can say there is no list, or damning evidence, but the cult and the conspiracy nuts were told it exists, so now, it exists. It will always exist and it not only exists but contains the secrets of the Deep State which is why it is protected and Trump is now part of the Deep State! Open your eyes people! Follow the evidence! Yada, yada.

The other reality is that Epstein was holding sex parties and exploiting young girls and Trump was tight with Epstein and a frequent visitor, and since we all know Trump is a sexual predator, as proven in court, then Trump was complicit in the abuse. His silence and actions (or lack of them) prove that. It is likely the frequency of his visits which cross referenced with statements including dates from victims is the truth Trump is trying to suppress. It’s the association he is running from rather than specific allegations.
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There was a harrowing interview with one of the victims on Jen Psaki's show on MSNBC last night. The woman in question filed her original report against JE and DT to the FBI back in 1994/5 (when DT was a registered Democrat).

I'll try and post a link later.
 
flook said:
How do you explain "Trump the candidate campaigning constantly about releasing the Epstein files" then not releasing the Epstein files? Does this not make you ask Why?

Shitgibbon is taking a kicking on this from all quarters and he's not dealing with it very well at all, yet he could effectively end speculation from all other than committed conspiracy theorists by simply doing what he promised to do, and yet he doesn't. Why not?

I would posit there are two reasons

1 - He's implicated
2 - Powerful allies or friends of him are implicated

There are no other reasonable explanations are there
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Look, it takes him 10 minutes to find his shift-lock key.

Just imagine how long he's been going through the Epstein files trying to work out how to find+replace 'Trump' with 'Biden'...
 
Trump has more pictures with Jeffrey Epstein than most people have with their grandparents.

Trump likes to tell people he is a genius, very smart. MAGA like to tell people Trump kicked Epstein out of his life because Epstein was a creep, not because of a real estate disagreement involving two huge egos.

They never really want to tell you what made Epstein a creep in Trump's eyes back then, after years of intimacy.

"Creep" is a pretty vague term in itself, it really invites the reader to fill-in-the-blanks, rather than informing the reader of any specific acts or behaviors.

What did Trump know, and when did he know it?
 
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