UEFA Women's Euros | England win final on penalties!

TinFoilHat said:
I think it's the weakest role in the game.

I struggle to think of decent keepers. Berger, despite her mistake tonight and predecessor Nadine Angerer are the only ones that spring to mind for me.
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Hope Solo. I am pretty certain Solo was the reason Karen Bardsley played for England instead of the U.S., as she was born and raised in California. And that is no shame on Bardsley. She was a great GK, and an Olympic calibre athlete in athletics. She just happened to be playing at the same time as arguably the best women's GK ever.
 
Pingu the Penguin said:
2 of the very best saves there have been tho. And Berger makes it 3
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Gordon Banks' against Brazil in 1970 wasn’t to be sniffed at:



Nor Jim Montgomery's double in the 1973 Cup final against dirty Leeds:



Montgomery had such a great game that he was the first player Sunderland manager, Bob Stokoe went to at the final whistle.
 
Think people really overstate how "bad" the goalkeeping is in the womens game and use any howlers they see to confirm their bias.

I cant find any data beyond 21/22 season but male goalies in the Premier league were twice as likely to concede a goal thanks to an error compared to a WSL keeper.

I think presently top flight women's football games average approx an extra 0.2 goals per game. Given that female keepers have a 15% smaller span than the males i dont think that's outrageous.

Obvs there's lots of different reasons and explanations behind those stats but I think you can just as easily put compilations together of poor goalkeeping in the mens game every single weekend.

Historically, I think female goalies weren't meeting the same levels as their team mates as a lot of clubs didn't employ goalkeeping coaches. But we've moved on since then. Think we've seen some great goalkeeping in this tournament as well as some very poor goalkeeping. Its all part of the entertainment either way.

With regards to Berger last night. We see goalies beaten on their near post ever single week. Criticise it for sure, but it happens all the time at all levels of the game. She was badly positioned but Bonmati's vision to spot that opportunity and the way she despatched the shot were world class.

Feels like whenever a female goalie makes a mistake, there's a certain type of person who immediately wants to drop what theyre doing to jump onto the internet to tell everyone about it. Its weird.
 
better dead than red said:
Hope Solo. I am pretty certain Solo was the reason Karen Bardsley played for England instead of the U.S., as she was born and raised in California. And that is no shame on Bardsley. She was a great GK, and an Olympic calibre athlete in athletics. She just happened to be playing at the same time as arguably the best women's GK ever.
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The Hope Solo documentary is worth a watch if you get the chance.

Untold: Hope Solo vs US Soccer (IMDB)
 
Am looking forward to this game today ...... i can't really see us winning it, i think Spain are a bit too precise with their football and slippery for our sleepy defence, but you never know ........ sometimes finals CAN spring surprises !!

For anyone watching, don't forget its a 5pm KO .....

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C'MON ENGLAND !!!
 
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TinFoilHat said:
Come on Lionesses!

We could do with some national feel good factor.

Tough ask but can be done.
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Yep agreed .... it's amazing what a bit of England footballing success can do for the mood of the population, suddenly there are smiles everywhere, folk are less grumpy, talking and laughing with one another, the feelgood factor abounds, and the sun seems to shine just that bit brighter!
 
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