cheekybids
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If you’ve left him on £15k for 3 years he may as well stay on it for another 2 & walk for free & keep the £25m signing on fee.
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Liverpool Thread | 2025/26
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If you’ve left him on £15k for 3 years he may as well stay on it for another 2 & walk for free & keep the £25m signing on fee.
we-r-the-big-4
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I do not recall him signing a n ew contract in 2024. Those places you mention I have never seen before nor seen used as a valued source of genuine information.
The contract he signed in2022 would include bonuses/incentives/clauses. I 'd already posted about this prior to you replying. I expect him to be offered a new contract/extension in the next 12 months. He has 2 years remaining.
When a promising young player signs a new deal it ends up plastered all over social media. So when a first team player signs one I expect to find article after article about it. I don't see any.
The young players and lower wages comes from Brendan Rodgers era. A structure was put in place so that young players would be incentivized over their contract rather than get too much too soon.
I don't believe he is still on 15k but i don't believe he is on 115k or 67k either. Thinking about it, games played, goals scored, assists, Motms and international appearances, he may well have maxed out those incentives and gets triple his 15k (45k) p/w by now. When I said 25k I didn't mull over the possible incentives long enough.
On his next deal 70/80k plus further incentives seems plausible. Should he already be on higher wages given his contribution? that's a whole different story.
I usually cross check with multiple sources.. net worth is a good indicator.. quick search says 10mill +...
15k a week after tax and agent fees would never get him that much.. feel free to continue to search. I always look to multiple sources for their 2p worth. Many say still 15k. My info has him Increasing that 15k to a reasonable amount..due to big performances at Newcastle.
I am happy you have a different opinion on the 15k also.. it has been a figure quoted a lot.. but others dismiss it as old news not updated for people on many platforms.
BTW.. hope VVD legs go!..obv...lol... GL on the hunt for the actual figure.. but your weekly as a team seems big enough for CJ to be earning 67k as an England internation who is 23-24? Long after his 15k weekly IMHO
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First let us not even joke about VVD! lolI usually cross check with multiple sources.. net worth is a good indicator.. quick search says 10mill +...
15k a week after tax and agent fees would never get him that much.. feel free to continue to search. I always look to multiple sources for their 2p worth. Many say still 15k. My info has him Increasing that 15k to a reasonable amount..due to big performances at Newcastle.
I am happy you have a different opinion on the 15k also.. it has been a figure quoted a lot.. but others dismiss it as old news not updated for people on many platforms.
BTW.. hope VVD legs go!..obv...lol... GL on the hunt for the actual figure.. but your weekly as a team seems big enough for CJ to be earning 67k as an England internation who is 23-24? Long after his 15k weekly IMHO
It is very difficult to get accurate contract details for any player. Everything get shrouded in thick fog when it comes to football finances.
We are not privy to what the finer details are. What does one earn for winning a particular competition? etc.
He changed agents as well but not sure when. Perhaps the previous one wasn't deemed to be doing enough. That is just an opinion though.
He had a tendency to do a few stepovers then pass the ball backwards / lose possession and looked like a player who was never gonna really fulfil his potential. Had a few niggling injuries too. The feeling seemed to be that he had the talent but didn't work hard enough. This would have contributed to the lower initial wage he was offered when he was about 21.
In 2022 his talent and potential plus market value justified a new long term deal but not large wages.
Pretty sure his market value was 10-15m at that point. My estimation that he is probs on 45k per week with all the bonuses etc discussed in previous post does make sense.
If he hadn't managed to reach what was required of him then the club could have sold him for market value and made a profit after paying him what he was owed.
I don't think it took him too long to knuckle down and mature. 45k per week i think ties in well with your 10 mill. That would be the value of a 45k contract over about 4 years or so?
cheekybids
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First let us not even joke about VVD! lol
It is very difficult to get accurate contract details for any player. Everything get shrouded in thick fog when it comes to football finances.
We are not privy to what the finer details are. What does one earn for winning a particular competition? etc.
He changed agents as well but not sure when. Perhaps the previous one wasn't deemed to be doing enough. That is just an opinion though.
He had a tendency to do a few stepovers then pass the ball backwards / lose possession and looked like a player who was never gonna really fulfil his potential. Had a few niggling injuries too. The feeling seemed to be that he had the talent but didn't work hard enough. This would have contributed to the lower initial wage he was offered when he was about 21.
In 2022 his talent and potential plus market value justified a new long term deal but not large wages.
Pretty sure his market value was 10-15m at that point. My estimation that he is probs on 45k per week with all the bonuses etc discussed in previous post does make sense.
If he hadn't managed to reach what was required of him then the club could have sold him for market value and made a profit after paying him what he was owed.
I don't think it took him too long to knuckle down and mature. 45k per week i think ties in well with your 10 mill. That would be the value of a 45k contract over about 4 years or so?
The 15k per week is such an unlikely amount, it’s not just pay but protecting your asset. 45k sounds reasonable enough but you’d want an upgrade to capitalise on a good season. If he doesn’t get it, he will leave for fuck all.
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Both them and the rags are good at unsettling rivals players they’ve done it for yearsYeah, but they have stirred the shit now, as they did with Van Dyke, and the stink will be all over Isak.
What goes around comes around. Madrid did it to them with Tront and will do the same with Konate.Both them and the rags are good at unsettling rivals players they’ve done it for years
Great to see them being counter-attacked to death by AC Milan. Currently 1:3...LOVELY!
That match was last week. Ended 4-2 to Milan. You must be watching a replay.Great to see them being counter-attacked to death by AC Milan. Currently 1:3...LOVELY!
Ha. What a plonker. I thought I was watching live and I was clapping when AC scored!That match was last week. Ended 4-2 to Milan. You must be watching a replay.
Great to see them being counter-attacked to death by AC Milan. Currently 1:3...LOVELY!
That match was last week. Ended 4-2 to Milan. You must be watching a replay.
Doesn't fill me with confidence if we conceded the exact same goals at the exact same times 2 weeks in a row!Ha. What a plonker. I thought I was watching live and I was clapping when AC scored!
I'll take a repeat of last season but not last week! lol
I think the chance of a repeat is slim. Not because a repeat of your own performance is unlikely, but because of the strength of others, several of whom have improved - Chelsea, Arsenal, and City, on paper, look to have strengthened.Doesn't fill me with confidence if we conceded the exact same goals at the exact same times 2 weeks in a row!
I'll take a repeat of last season but not last week! lol
There's not much love for Liverpool here. I think everyone recognises the strength of the team, but also recognises that the more vocal fans have a unique ability to refute any notion of the club being non-saintly, and the media seems to perpetuate this myth too, with infuriatingly positive PR at every turn, which would not be given to other clubs in the same circumstances.
It was said tongue in cheek in reference to your own funny little moment.I think the chance of a repeat is slim. Not because a repeat of your own performance is unlikely, but because of the strength of others, several of whom have improved - Chelsea, Arsenal, and City, on paper, look to have strengthened.
There's not much love for Liverpool here. I think everyone recognises the strength of the team, but also recognises that the more vocal fans have a unique ability to refute any notion of the club being non-saintly, and the media seems to perpetuate this myth too, with infuriatingly positive PR at every turn, which would not be given to other clubs in the same circumstances.
I personally think it is a misplaced belief that the league last season was weak.
We dropped our performance level, after the league was done, only slightly, it was difficult to pick up points. The majority of the league season our performance s were very consistent.
Chelsea had their best season for a few years. Arsenal do what they have done for many a moon. It didn't feel like there were really any games that i'd gone into thinking we'll win this easy.
A lot of the summer transfers have seen Brentford, Bournemouth, Wolves, Brighton and possibly even Newcastle lose key players to other premier league clubs. Some of those players have gone to Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and City. Spurs tried to nick MGW and Eze and Guehi could still leave Palace.
The all round competitiveness this season might well be significantly less and that in turn will likely see higher points totals at the top end. IF those clubs weren't being ravaged and players were just coming from overseas it would give a better picture in terms of the previous season and if the perceived top clubs had strengthened.
Without a doubt father time caught up with some Man City players and injuries played a massive part. It reminded me very much of the 20-21 season(?) when we ended up with Nat Phillips and Rhys Williams at CB. Towards the end of the season, 'you' regained a bit of confidence, it felt like when you had to win, 'you' rediscovered how to 'win ugly'.
City probably the only one who didn't perform to their own expected lofty standards. To reach an F A Cup final and qualify for the champions league, most clubs and fanbases would be ecstatic!
@oldius I read something the other day on the BBC about 'City break transfer record' in relation to Trafford. I sighed and thought what are they on about now. Hadn't seen it reported anywhere else. It turned out Burnley had posted on social media about it being a British transfer record for a keeper.
Pretty sure it is reported as £27m in most places.
I hate the way the media report on the scum. I hate their fanbase. I get it. The larger a fanbase of something grows then the more likely it will contain more than its fair share of imbeciles.
Those types that say "oh, did we play today?" are often the ones you'll find arguing the toss about things they don't understand but have read someone else 'talk' about.
Pretty sure it is reported as £27m in most places.
I hate the way the media report on the scum. I hate their fanbase. I get it. The larger a fanbase of something grows then the more likely it will contain more than its fair share of imbeciles.
Those types that say "oh, did we play today?" are often the ones you'll find arguing the toss about things they don't understand but have read someone else 'talk' about.
Fair points .It was said tongue in cheek in reference to your own funny little moment.
I personally think it is a misplaced belief that the league last season was weak.
We dropped our performance level, after the league was done, only slightly, it was difficult to pick up points. The majority of the league season our performance s were very consistent.
Chelsea had their best season for a few years. Arsenal do what they have done for many a moon. It didn't feel like there were really any games that i'd gone into thinking we'll win this easy.
A lot of the summer transfers have seen Brentford, Bournemouth, Wolves, Brighton and possibly even Newcastle lose key players to other premier league clubs. Some of those players have gone to Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and City. Spurs tried to nick MGW and Eze and Guehi could still leave Palace.
The all round competitiveness this season might well be significantly less and that in turn will likely see higher points totals at the top end. IF those clubs weren't being ravaged and players were just coming from overseas it would give a better picture in terms of the previous season and if the perceived top clubs had strengthened.
Without a doubt father time caught up with some Man City players and injuries played a massive part. It reminded me very much of the 20-21 season(?) when we ended up with Nat Phillips and Rhys Williams at CB. Towards the end of the season, 'you' regained a bit of confidence, it felt like when you had to win, 'you' rediscovered how to 'win ugly'.
City probably the only one who didn't perform to their own expected lofty standards. To reach an F A Cup final and qualify for the champions league, most clubs and fanbases would be ecstatic!
Yes, you did fall away.
I do think that Chelsea and Arsenal will be stronger.
I think we will be, but hopefully winning beautifully as well as ugly.
I can't wish you luck, but I do hope all players stay free of injury and fans stay safe. May the best team win.
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There is a wild card place in the FOC thread for you if you are not old enough :-)Ha. What a plonker. I thought I was watching live and I was clapping when AC scored!
Definitely FOC behaviour.
I exhibit plenty.There is a wild card place in the FOC thread for you if you are not old enough :-)
Definitely FOC behaviour.
I'm 56.
Thank you. I echo your sentiments. Give us a season full of excitement, that culminates in the scum being relegated!Fair points .
Yes, you did fall away.
I do think that Chelsea and Arsenal will be stronger.
I think we will be, but hopefully winning beautifully as well as ugly.
I can't wish you luck, but I do hope all players stay free of injury and fans stay safe. May the best team win.
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I don't agree.It was said tongue in cheek in reference to your own funny little moment.
I personally think it is a misplaced belief that the league last season was weak.
We dropped our performance level, after the league was done, only slightly, it was difficult to pick up points. The majority of the league season our performance s were very consistent.
Chelsea had their best season for a few years. Arsenal do what they have done for many a moon. It didn't feel like there were really any games that i'd gone into thinking we'll win this easy.
A lot of the summer transfers have seen Brentford, Bournemouth, Wolves, Brighton and possibly even Newcastle lose key players to other premier league clubs. Some of those players have gone to Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and City. Spurs tried to nick MGW and Eze and Guehi could still leave Palace.
The all round competitiveness this season might well be significantly less and that in turn will likely see higher points totals at the top end. IF those clubs weren't being ravaged and players were just coming from overseas it would give a better picture in terms of the previous season and if the perceived top clubs had strengthened.
Without a doubt father time caught up with some Man City players and injuries played a massive part. It reminded me very much of the 20-21 season(?) when we ended up with Nat Phillips and Rhys Williams at CB. Towards the end of the season, 'you' regained a bit of confidence, it felt like when you had to win, 'you' rediscovered how to 'win ugly'.
City probably the only one who didn't perform to their own expected lofty standards. To reach an F A Cup final and qualify for the champions league, most clubs and fanbases would be ecstatic!
The league was far weaker last season than it has been in previous years.
If Slot had to contend with the same pressure that Klopp did against Pep, I don't believe you would have won the league under Slot.
The biggest story in the Premier League last season wasn't that the rags finished 15th (everyone could see that was coming) it was how surprised they were to see MCFC drop off the pace.
Hardly surprising as far as I'm concerned: what do you expect after coming off the back of winning the premier league four times in a row?
If Slot believes that last season was competitive (and I believe he does) then he's in for one hell of a rude awakening this season.
In what way was it far weaker?I don't agree.
The league was far weaker last season than it has been in previous years.
If Slot had to contend with the same pressure that Klopp did against Pep, I don't believe you would have won the league under Slot.
The biggest story in the Premier League last season wasn't that the rags finished 15th (everyone could see that was coming) it was how surprised they were to see MCFC drop off the pace.
Hardly surprising as far as I'm concerned: what do you expect after coming off the back of winning the premier league four times in a row?
If Slot believes that last season was competitive (and I believe he does) then he's in for one hell of a rude awakening this season.
Why are the so called top clubs buying players from clubs that played, in your view, in a far weaker league, going to make them stronger this season?
So it didn't surprise you, city's form? you foresaw all the injuries?
You have no idea what Arne Slot thinks. So what you believe is only what you are telling yourself. I don't claim to know what he thinks either. I am not clairvoyant or telepathic.
Your post comes across as rather emotional rather than filled with reasoning.
From my perspective.
If the league this season is going to be more competitive (and i believe it will) how many more 'Michael Oliver moments' will we be seeing from Slot?I don't agree.
The league was far weaker last season than it has been in previous years.
If Slot had to contend with the same pressure that Klopp did against Pep, I don't believe you would have won the league under Slot.
The biggest story in the Premier League last season wasn't that the rags finished 15th (everyone could see that was coming) it was how surprised they were to see MCFC drop off the pace.
Hardly surprising as far as I'm concerned: what do you expect after coming off the back of winning the premier league four times in a row?
If Slot believes that last season was competitive (and I believe he does) then he's in for one hell of a rude awakening this season.
They were in a commanding position at the time but he flapped and lost his shit at the thought of dropping 2 points vs Everton.
Hmmm doesn't bode well in my eyes