Media discussion - 2025/26

Sly Stone from his Sesko article trying to explain away United’s transfer spending.

Sly is nothing but a PR Rag Shill, paid by us, the TV liecence fee payer.

Payment arrangements for the deals for Matheus Cunha and Bryan Mbeumo from Wolves and Brentford this summer, which total £130m, have been arranged in a favourable way.

In addition, the entirety of Marcus Rashford's £325,000-a-week salary is being covered by his loan move to Barcelona and Manchester United received £5m from Chelsea after the Blues pulled out of a deal to sign Jadon Sancho.

Manchester United have also received more than £15m in payments as part of sell-on clauses involving Anthony Elanga, Alvaro Carreras and Maxi Oyedele.
 
chesterbells said:
There’s a lot to pick up on there, but is that reference to Empire a way of saying they should axe the world service? I’ve lived in a number of other countries and I found it invaluable. Maybe it doesn’t have a place today, but I’d need to know a bit more about listening figures.

Overall, I just think see it differently to you. I see it as a National Asset. Just like other services we all pay for, for the common good, be they delivered locally or nationally, I think of the bbc that way also. I know it’s not the 20th Century anymore, but not everything from then needs to be scrapped, and the payment model is essential for me.

(But there is also plenty wrong with the BBC I agree with that too).
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The decline of the BBC is a tragedy for this country.
 
jrb said:
Sly Stone from his Sesko article trying to explain away United’s transfer spending.

Sly is nothing but a PR Rag Shill, paid by us, the TV liecence fee payer.

Payment arrangements for the deals for Matheus Cunha and Bryan Mbeumo from Wolves and Brentford this summer, which total £130m, have been arranged in a favourable way.

In addition, the entirety of Marcus Rashford's £325,000-a-week salary is being covered by his loan move to Barcelona and Manchester United received £5m from Chelsea after the Blues pulled out of a deal to sign Jadon Sancho.

Manchester United have also received more than £15m in payments as part of sell-on clauses involving Anthony Elanga, Alvaro Carreras and Maxi Oyedele.
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They’ve just made those last 2 up.
 
chesterbells said:
There’s a lot to pick up on there, but is that reference to Empire a way of saying they should axe the world service? I’ve lived in a number of other countries and I found it invaluable. Maybe it doesn’t have a place today, but I’d need to know a bit more about listening figures.

Overall, I just think see it differently to you. I see it as a National Asset. Just like other services we all pay for, for the common good, be they delivered locally or nationally, I think of the bbc that way also. I know it’s not the 20th Century anymore, but not everything from then needs to be scrapped, and the payment model is essential for me.

(But there is also plenty wrong with the BBC I agree with that too).
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chesterbells said:
There’s a lot to pick up on there, but is that reference to Empire a way of saying they should axe the world service? I’ve lived in a number of other countries and I found it invaluable. Maybe it doesn’t have a place today, but I’d need to know a bit more about listening figures.

Overall, I just think see it differently to you. I see it as a National Asset. Just like other services we all pay for, for the common good, be they delivered locally or nationally, I think of the bbc that way also. I know it’s not the 20th Century anymore, but not everything from then needs to be scrapped, and the payment model is essential for me.

(But there is also plenty wrong with the BBC I agree with that too).
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I would like to see the BBC to continue in a modern format. It is dying on its feet at the moment. Most of its output is dire despite some pockets of excellence.
 
chesterbells said:
There’s a lot to pick up on there, but is that reference to Empire a way of saying they should axe the world service? I’ve lived in a number of other countries and I found it invaluable. Maybe it doesn’t have a place today, but I’d need to know a bit more about listening figures.

Overall, I just think see it differently to you. I see it as a National Asset. Just like other services we all pay for, for the common good, be they delivered locally or nationally, I think of the bbc that way also. I know it’s not the 20th Century anymore, but not everything from then needs to be scrapped, and the payment model is essential for me.

(But there is also plenty wrong with the BBC I agree with that too).
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When I was overseas in my earlier years I had a pocket size SW radio which I could pick up a live commentary from a second half game and the full results.
I took it everywhere.
 
Stoned Rose said:
They’ve just made those last 2 up.
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The laziest, most biased of journalism - nothing to back up the fees involved and likely percentages - it's just bollocks.

As for Fishfingers, again, is there any reliable confirmation ANYWHERE of the arrangement? If Barca are paying his ALLEGED wage of £325,000 a week:-
1 That's £3,250,000 every 10 weeks
2 That's £16.25M a year for a club mired in financial trouble, redeveloping it's stadium and in the meantime playing in a stadium half the size of the Nou Camp, with presumably half of the match day income. That provides a very worrying picture of finances spiraling out of control - not that I care, save for the fact that City can't buy a box of paper clips without a concerted outcry by the red cartel.

Perhaps Martin Samuels might look into the arrangements for us. I wouldn't trust it from any other football journo - especially at BBC United.
 
chesterbells said:
There’s a lot to pick up on there, but is that reference to Empire a way of saying they should axe the world service? I’ve lived in a number of other countries and I found it invaluable. Maybe it doesn’t have a place today, but I’d need to know a bit more about listening figures.

Overall, I just think see it differently to you. I see it as a National Asset. Just like other services we all pay for, for the common good, be they delivered locally or nationally, I think of the bbc that way also. I know it’s not the 20th Century anymore, but not everything from then needs to be scrapped, and the payment model is essential for me.

(But there is also plenty wrong with the BBC I agree with that too).
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Once you start to see the BBC's propaganda, you can't unsee it and it becomes unwatchable.
 
Being from a Northern Irish Catholic family and watching the news from the 70s onwards it was clear the BBC has always been a propaganda machine. It doesnt make it unwatchable and most of the time they don't just lie. What they do is provide an opinion, miss out key facts or present facts in a way to make you think and feel a specific way. This has only got worse in the clickbait era. The issue isn't that the BBC are now doing it, the issue is that people are only just realising it.

It doesn't make the BBC impossible to watch you just have to do so knowing what they are doing and looking for what they don' t tell you or work out why they are presenting things in a certain way.

The sports department moved to Salford and employed a load of former MUTV people (as that was the only real pool of staff in the NW with sports television experience). As such it was only ever going to go one way.

And yes Slimey is a ****, so is his boss, and so are a lot of those operating the social media channels, and their bosses as well. But personally I love to watch how they try to make Utd relevant. Take the latest story that Sesko 'wants' Utd dispite a lower bid, yet no mention of the respective wages being offered by Utd or Newcastle, wonder why that is?
 
the blue panther said:
The laziest, most biased of journalism - nothing to back up the fees involved and likely percentages - it's just bollocks.

As for Fishfingers, again, is there any reliable confirmation ANYWHERE of the arrangement? If Barca are paying his ALLEGED wage of £325,000 a week:-
1 That's £3,250,000 every 10 weeks
2 That's £16.25M a year for a club mired in financial trouble, redeveloping it's stadium and in the meantime playing in a stadium half the size of the Nou Camp, with presumably half of the match day income. That provides a very worrying picture of finances spiraling out of control - not that I care, save for the fact that City can't buy a box of paper clips without a concerted outcry by the red cartel.

Perhaps Martin Samuels might look into the arrangements for us. I wouldn't trust it from any other football journo - especially at BBC United.
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Rashford is not being paid off books is he? But no one is asking questions.Barca can’t even register him at present.
 
Blue Pete said:
Being from a Northern Irish Catholic family and watching the news from the 70s onwards it was clear the BBC has always been a propaganda machine. It doesnt make it unwatchable and most of the time the don't just lie. What they do is provide an opinion, miss out key facts or present facts in a way to make you think and feel a specific way. This has only got worse in the clickbait era. The issue isnt that the BBC are now doing it, the issue is that people are only just realising it.

It doesn't make the BBC impossible to watch you just have to do so knowing what they are doing and looking for what they don' t tell you or work out why they are presenting things in a certain way.

The sports department moved to Salford and employed a load of former MUTV people (as that was the only real pool of staff in the NW with sports television experience). As such it was only ever going to go one way.

And yes Slimey is a ****, so is his boss, and so are a lot of those operating the social media channels, and their bosses as well. But personally I love to watch how they try to make Utd relevant. Take the latest story that Sesko 'wants' Utd dispute a lower bid, yet no mention of the respective wages being offered by Utd or Newcastle, wonder why that is?
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Great post. The BBC has always reported its content through a filter. To be fair that’s true of all media outlets. You have to be aware of what’s going on though.
 
Gazza said:
Once you start to see the BBC's propaganda, you can't unsee it and it becomes unwatchable.
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I seriously don't know anyone who watches the BBC anymore. Certainly not in the way they did when it was considered something of a national treasure. After the exposure of all its nonce activity and cover ups, its terrible programming, and everything else it has become, I fully understand why people refuse to pay for it. It is now a national embarrassment
 
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