Rodrygo

I must start out by saying i haven't watched a lot of games with this guy but i have seen some & i don't really see what people are raving about, is he really worth 80m to 90m ?
 
He's been heavily linked all summer with the two clubs who finished above us last season. As well as dross like united.

Nearly every player is linked with a move atsome point.

But unless it's been a closely guarded secret no club has made any steps to actually sign him. Maybe put off by the cost?
 
But unless it's been a closely guarded secret no club has made any steps to actually sign him. Maybe put off by the cost?
If rumours are to be believed, they've mainly been put off by the fact that Rodrygo is holding out for City.

I'm pretty relaxed about this one tbh. I think he's far better than some on here are giving him credit for and would add the goals that we were lacking last season, but if it doesn't happen it almost certainly means Savinho stays so I see it as a win-win.
 
Nearly every player is linked with a move atsome point.

But unless it's been a closely guarded secret no club has made any steps to actually sign him. Maybe put off by the cost?

Possibly. The fee seems pretty high for our squad needs but Real Madrid fans seem to think it's entirely justified.

He's still only 24 and I do think we'd take him to the next level. If that's the case then nobody will end up talking about the fee.
 
If rumours are to be believed, they've mainly been put off by the fact that Rodrygo is holding out for City.

I'm pretty relaxed about this one tbh. I think he's far better than some on here are giving him credit for and would add the goals that we were lacking last season, but if it doesn't happen it almost certainly means Savinho stays so I see it as a win-win.

It seems like our battles with Real Madrid in the CL have heavily increased our standing with many associated with that club.

I've even seen a video of Vinícius Júnior hyping up our atmosphere against them and how blown away he was with the 'Ohhh Kevin De Bruyne' chants echoing round the stadium.
 
Facts don't provide their own context. Neither do stats. It's up to you to put them in context so that you understand them better and don't misuse them.
What’s the context then?

His numbers are average, he’s been punted around the team because he’s not been good enough to have nailed down a position. Two successive managers have now failed to make him a key part of their team and he rarely performs internationally.
 
From the bloke I replied too….

But 6g and 6a in 30 games last year and 10g 5a the year before would be considered pretty average for a Madrid forward you could argue.

If he was putting up those numbers for Celta Vigo, would this forum be asking to spend 80m on him?
They are good numbers when you are forced to play as the foil for the likes of Vini Jr and Mbappe imo,

Go and check his champions league record, and record in big games. Pep can turn him into a machine like he did Sterling, he’s an intelligent player.

My only concern is that he’s kicked up a fuss about playing RW for years, and that’s probably where he’d feature most for us.
 
What’s the context then?

His numbers are average, he’s been punted around the team because he’s not been good enough to have nailed down a position. Two successive managers have now failed to make him a key part of their team and he rarely performs internationally.
But Pep rates him and that’s the important thing
 
What’s the context then?

His numbers are average, he’s been punted around the team because he’s not been good enough to have nailed down a position. Two successive managers have now failed to make him a key part of their team and he rarely performs internationally.

Remember how Benzema's numbers absolutely skyrocketed when ronaldo left?

Rodrygo plays with Vinicius, Mbappe and Bellingham. Those are three absolutely massive fucking egos. Rodrygo doesn't demand centre stage like they do and is happy to facilitate them. We don't operate like they do.

And for all this "he's not been good enough" talk, he's still a play Real Madrid really don't want to lose and will demand a huge fee to part with.
 
They are good numbers when you are forced to play as the foil for the likes of Vini Jr and Mbappe imo,

Go and check his champions league record, and record in big games. Pep can turn him into a machine like he did Sterling, he’s an intelligent player.

My only concern is that he’s kicked up a fuss about playing RW for years, and that’s probably where he’d feature most for us.

From what I’ve heard people say, it’s not being necessarily on the RW he has a problem with, it’s the role he has to play I.e do the running for Mbappe and Vini Jnr - has he been playing as the Brazilian James Milner, probably not. But he’s probably a bit pissed off that they get away with doing next to no closing down yet he’s the one who gets the grief
 
But Pep rates him and that’s the important thing
He also rates Akanji.
Remember how Benzema's numbers absolutely skyrocketed when ronaldo left?

Rodrygo plays with Vinicius, Mbappe and Bellingham. Those are three absolutely massive fucking egos. Rodrygo doesn't demand centre stage like they do and is happy to facilitate them. We don't operate like they do.

And for all this "he's not been good enough" talk, he's still a play Real Madrid really don't want to lose and will demand a huge fee to part with.
You say Mbappe and Bellingham like he wouldn’t be walking into a team with Haaland, Foden and Marmoush. Rodrygo is going to be playing fourth choice again if he comes here, so we’re paying 80m for 10g+a
 
He also rates Akanji.

Treble winner Manuel Akanji? Fancy that.

You say Mbappe and Bellingham like he wouldn’t be walking into a team with Haaland, Foden and Marmoush.

They are completely different personalities. They don't demand the spotlight in the same way. They are incredible team players who also happen to be great individual players.
 
Doku will never be at Rodrygo's level.
True Doku will never reach his productive 6g 6a seasons or 10goal and 5 assists seasons.
The difference between Vinicius/ Mbappe and rodrygo is big. There is a reason why he doesn’t have a real position and couldn’t make a name for himself to be undroppable under 2 different coaches. You can see what his exact lvl is during the Brazil games when Vinicius and Raphinha are completely ahead of him.
 

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