Savinho | City reject Spurs approach

I suppose being realistic about this we often forget what another team offers a player. For Savinho that is, in no order:

Moving to London with a much larger Brazilian community.
Playing in a decent stadium.
Playing for a new coach who is known as a good man manager.
Being a key piece of their first 11.
Getting a good salary bump.

For us (which to me is more important obviously)

We get a good fee to address a better solution for team balance.
That fee has a large part that is pure profit for the silly PL rules.
It allows us flexibility to play more varied systems.
I personally had some doubts over Savinho - not about his ability - but when things are not going great he seems to not have much fight to change that.

He may go on to be fantastic but I would be comfortable with that - So overall best for all as I have never seen him as a key piece - hopefully it gets done and we can look forward to seeing what Hugo does by end of the window. In the meantime I am so excited about seeing the new signings play this weekend especially Cherki (fingers crossed).
 
I stopped reacting to this Bobb thing. This has to be a cult in here.
 
decmancity said:
I believe we are yeah, the entire situation just feels different to if anyone had come after other players in the team.

City seem pretty easy with him going at a good price, we know we already have players in the team to replace him but are also likely doing groundwork on Rodrygo etc so they can pull the trigger if needed on that.
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I am open to you being right, and I acknowledge elements of that, yes. But I don't really see it that way. But it is ok to disagree.

I do think people (you a bit, others a lot) are attributing far more innuendo here than the rumours suggest, based on selective previous examples. This is imo nowhere near the Torres, Alvarez, etc similar 'situations'.

But clearly, there is interest, the player is open to it, the club are not dismissing anything, and rumoured to be preparing for alternatives if it happens.

I don't think it will, but mostly because I can't see Spurs going far enough in their offer for what it would take to get a player like that (from wherever in fairness, if he was at girona or leverkusen, imo the price would be the same at the very least).
 
alexmcity said:
Adding Marmoush and Cherki, plus a fit Bobb, has made it more difficult for him to get enough starts. He knows Bobb is a talent, Foden is expected to be better as well. Doku can play on the right side, too.
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Bobb was here when he signed. As was Alvarez! Foden had his best season ever and was a proper world class player. Cherki? Kevin was here and still out best player.

I don't think he has 'shat it' like many suggest. Think he listened to an offer that came in, and opened to the idea. Or maybe the club listened, and that made him open to the idea. Or maybe he initiated it all. We'll never know. People sre jumping to conclusions, but then stating them as fact.
 
Paul1970 said:
But we need to talk about last season when he hardly set the world alight . He’s raw potential who could go any way but I don’t think he is good enough or ever will be for what we need .
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Most of our players don't set the world alight in their first season under Pep. Young player, new league, new country, new system and manager. Plus, shit season when we had our worst spell ever since we were founded in 2008! with the whole team under performing and being constipated in attack.

The boy has quality, and he has shown enougn to be valued as high as he is, and for the expectation to be there.
 
oldius said:
You said he was, and I quote, 'awful'. It is a preposterous statement. Why would we be offered 60m by a big club in the PL for an awful player?
You said he was the worst player in the squad. Why would you cast that aspersion on a 20 year old? It is, IMO, a stupid thing to say about such a young player, apart from being palpably untrue.

I imagine that as you are reading this you will be waiting to write something akin to, 'You didn't answer the question.' Just to clarify, I have no desire to identify the 'worst player'. Firstly, it would be an entirely subjective answer devoid of any factual content, and secondly, I support my team so I look at strengths and development areas. Savinho has plenty of strengths - first touch, dribbling skills, pace. He has, like any young player, some areas for development - tracking back, physical strength, finishing.

Have a think about the comment you made. I don't know why you would make it, but sometimes we have reasons that others are not aware of.
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Bravo!
 
Mr HJ said:
I suppose being realistic about this we often forget what another team offers a player. For Savinho that is, in no order:

Moving to London with a much larger Brazilian community.
Playing in a decent stadium.
Playing for a new coach who is known as a good man manager.
Being a key piece of their first 11.
Getting a good salary bump.

For us (which to me is more important obviously)

We get a good fee to address a better solution for team balance.
That fee has a large part that is pure profit for the silly PL rules.
It allows us flexibility to play more varied systems.
I personally had some doubts over Savinho - not about his ability - but when things are not going great he seems to not have much fight to change that.

He may go on to be fantastic but I would be comfortable with that - So overall best for all as I have never seen him as a key piece - hopefully it gets done and we can look forward to seeing what Hugo does by end of the window. In the meantime I am so excited about seeing the new signings play this weekend especially Cherki (fingers crossed).
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He's seen Foden and how he can play, and he's shit himself when he's seen Bobb & Cherki. There's no way he is in the national side based on appearances.
 
OrigamiNinja said:
He’d have to at some point to justify a £60-70m price tag. At this price, there is a far greater risk attached to this deal for Spurs, than there is for us.

I think I am easy either way where Sav is concerned. If he stays, I have seen there is real potential there and hopefully he can realise it. If he leaves, we are going to get a great fee and there’s a high chance he doesn’t ever fulfil the potential.
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That's just not true, re the risk.

What's their risk? He doesn't get 20+ G&A at some point in the next 2 years. Big deal. A young Brazil international will still have plenty resale value.

What's our risk, losing a young player that is a big part of both out short term and long term plans. The players we have signed and how we set up in the CWC it is clear Pep is tweaking how we play after a poor season, and he is somewhat a key part of that. And with a number of players leaving next year, a ready made starter in a year potentially. He is on low wages, finding a player of that level on such low wages isnt easy. We got him relatively cheap because of the cfg network, finding a player of his level to replace him with would cost us much more. Plus he if turns out 'a worldie' we have lost out on future value.

The risks are pretty fair and balanced, as is the rumoured price.
 
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