Spurs (H) | PL | Post Match Thread

balotellishaircut said:
Strange isn’t it, Pelligrini used to school Spurs home n away with ease, but Pep struggles every season against them.
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He gives them too much respect. Re their counters. Fucking go for it, go 4 -0 up and then their counters won't count as much. If we get countered anyway, what does it matter, we lose as ir is.
 
kingn6 said:
Agreed but we have seen it before. We usually start poorly as well early in the season as we start preseason late.

It is really annoying and Pep should have made some tactical changes based on experience. However reading some of the comments they are laughable.
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As I said there's always overreaction on here. However, whilst we have no divine right to win, succumbing in that manner to an average spurs side in the 1st home game is pants.
 
WesthoughtonJohn said:
Come on @jimharri we don't tend to disagree - but after lunchtime can you blame us???
Football is/always has been - 1 game just makes a difference, and today was NOT a good day no matter how you spin it
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I never said it was. We were abysmal, against a well drilled but average (in my opinion) Spurs team, who won't get anywhere near the top 5 (we mightn't either!). What I will say is that, worrying as that display was, it's early in the season. If we're still churning out that type of performance after 10 games, then we can start checking the relegation odds!
 
ancoats said:
In the Shit matey

Things need to settle down, We need to learn fast that the champions tag we had has long gone and needs rebuilding with hunger and fire in the belly. City has lost the fear factor and nobody else is going to give it to us without fighting hard for it.

Pep has a major problem for me ? its in the old guard he thinks is the safety net of this squad, Their Hunger is in question for me and i didn't like what i saw in Dias and Stone, also Lewis was out of his depth at right back and SORRY again for this but Haaland is coasting again

We have to wait on the transfer window closing before Pep has his final squad to play with
But Please Pep get Cherki higher up in the danger zones and Rodri has to start next week and every week
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The last sentence is true but also a worry cinsidering what happened last time he was run into the ground. Dias and Lewis were woeful and Haaland ineffective. Biggest thing for me today was our genuine lack of physicality. We gave away cheap goals and got bullied for the rest of the match.
 
Rammy Blue said:
Was fucking dire.

Spurs were by far the better side - stronger, faster, fitter etc and completely bullied us all over the pitch.

Showed up all of our deficiencies.

Pretty obvious, imo, that Pep expected them to sit deep and try and hit us on the counter whereas they pushed up to the half way line and just pressed us like crazy, and it worked.

On a player level, I thought Stones was the only one who came out with any credit whatsoever.

Said plenty of times, and took pelters for saying it, but Dias is garbage.

Rico out of his depth, shame after last week but showed him for what he is today.

Bernie’s cameo was like something out of a comedy show, he looked like he was fucking 90 out there, he’d only been on 2 mins and lost the ball and didn’t even bother trying to get back.

Hey ho, one hell of a reality check.
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Agreed but why would Pep think that Spurs would sit deep after watching them play PSG?

Now we dont have Ederson, teams will push higher and higher up the pitch....we dont have athletes in this team to play over bigger areas...players like Cherki,Foden Bobb, Doku are all techincally excellent and better than that BUT when the pitch is spread out like its going to be when teams start to press usand the keeper has to kick long then they become less effective as physically dominant players like Papa Sarr and others use their physical attributes to get to the ball first...

Weidly - Cherki, Foden, Bobb etc are the players you want against a team that sits deep...we have just brought in a keeper who means teams will come at us more in our half which they havent done since Ederson arrive. The players Im mentioning arent going to run half the length of the field on a break away....

I think at this point (and this isnt blaming Trafford who is definitely the better shot stopper of all the keepers) but we are stuck in between styles and dont have the players to play the physical side of the game ...Id knock Riico Lewis off the ball if I was shoulder to shoulder next to him and Im 50 years old.

You saw it today when Trafford did kick long...half the team was still in our defensive third expecting him to play it short as thats what we have done for years (muscle memory and old patterns of play).

Id also say the likes of Reijnders are not upto prem speed and need to be aware of the defensive side of the game more....that balance in midfield prior to the game today was commented on as not being right...
 
Blue_Lightsaber said:
Stop Panicking.

It's a rebuild and there will be growing pains.


Trafford was solid and didn't do anything wrong!!

Deserves to be our number #1. For everyone complaining I don't see you doing any better than him and he showed his grit with that double save!
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Sorry mate but that’s just bollox
Trafford did nothing wrong?
 
let's not get all knee-jerk after one bad result. Just like some people over-reacted to last week's win saying we're going to piss the league, we aren't suddenly a terrible side after one defeat (and that against our bogey side). It's how we react to this setback that will tell us a lot about what season we're going to have. If we put in a poor performance against Brighton then time to worry but until then. Pep got his team wrong today - too lightweight in midfield and too many new faces starting. This is a wake up call, maybe good to get it early.
 
It’s a cliche but you have to build from the back. Rookie keeper who looks as though he’s just been thrown in and seems uncertain what he should be doing. The back four was awful, and midfield looked lightweight, strikers had a bad day but they can only do so much. Selling McAtee yet keeping Silva seems poor business. On the plus side, we won’t have to play Spurs again for a while, they basically had the same game plan as Wolves but with far better players.
 
skillman said:
The main concern today was that we’ve been praying for a side to come to our place and press us like Spurs did today yet when it’s finally happened, we couldn’t play our way out of it.

If that then didn’t work, Eddie would usually then use his ability to nail one up to Haaland or to the wings. Again, didn’t work today.

Rodri would make a big difference to being comfortable getting out from the back but it’s disconcerting just how lost we seemed today.
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Pressing us without Ederson is very different to pressing us with him. I noticed Haaland wanting Trafford to hit him with one of those long kicks like ederson used to but no other keeper is going to be able to play like that.
 
Same old shit frim last year, bizarre team selection, slow and predictable and the work rate off the ball is abysmal - I just don’t see what is going to change
 
Today wasn’t great and you can’t sugar coat a performance like that. The weaknesses in the squad have been highlighted for weeks. We desperately need a right back who can overlap, we need a left sided attacker and the goalkeeper situation was a disaster today. No point attacking Trafford but he looked utterly out of his depth today and managed to unsettle the whole defence. Many of the deficiencies today were pretty similar to last season - which is worry - but we have to trust in Pep to get this right. As an aside we looked pretty under cooked today - Spurs looked 30 per cent fitter than we did. Keep the faith.
 
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