Hard To Be Here

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Re. the OP. This happens on forums. (Not only ours — take a look round. And I don't even want to talk about Twitter and suchlike, which I literally never look at). Especially during and immediately after a defeat. I'd say about 70% of the matchday thread is about venting, pure and simple. That's why I almost never look at it. And the first hour or so of the post-match thread, it's a good 50-60% of venting, if it's been a defeat. There's no distance whatsoever.
But you don't have to read it, you know. Another thing. It took me a while to realise it, but some people apparently post regularly when they've been on the sauce. And I mean, big time on the sauce. And we know from down the pub that some people get benign and philosophical when they've had a jar or ten, and others become like rabid dogs.
But hey — it's a free country.

I intensely dislike seeing the players and manager of the club I support insulted. But there's criticised — and then there's insulted. I know where I put the cursor, but everyone's different in that respect. Unless Ric's going to turn this place into an internet version of North Korea, you're going to get it.

 

[Centurions]

Ironically the posters that @oldius refers to have come out in force in this thread.

I got talked out of deleting my account a few seasons back by Rick and went on a hiatus instead, the last few weeks have got me thinking that I've had enough now and if I pull the pin it'll be permanent this time.

 

[VOOMER]

Ti's but a game.

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Haaland "almost scored from a header, but he seems to "almost" score from a header every week. Perhaps one day the penny will drop that for all his undoubted finishing prowess, he's actually not very good in the air.

Been noticing this since his first season. It's odd for such a big fella. He just isn't very good. I notice that the timing of his jump is often slightly out. I can't explain it — he must work on it, surely? I thought it was going to improve. But there's little evidence that it has.
Obviously lethal, with both feet, and a terrific turn of pace. Technically, he's less accomplished than Sergio, by some distance. But he'll always score goals, and that's mainly what he's here for, after all.

 

[oldius]

The biggest issue is that for many we are now Pep FC , they cannot accept that his time here is ending , they attack anyone who even suggests he is no longer producing the goods. The pack have caught up and gone by. The fear factor is gone. Last Season was a real wake up call ,on yesterday's showing the slumber continues. On Rico Lewis? any blame is all on Pep and not on the kid whom he hangs out to dry almost weekly. Not signing a recognised right back is beyond a joke at this stage. Annoyingly just 1 week in all the old frailties have surfaced.

I tend to think the opposite. The more sanguine recognise where we are, understand that we are not currently the best, and know that it takes time to get back. There is nothing constructive about saying players are shit or fat, apart from it being untrue, so frailties are with those who go berserk at every dropped point. New players, new coaches, new DOF.

 

[madloaf]

Ironically the posters that @oldius refers to have come out in force in this thread.

I got talked out of deleting my account a few seasons back by Rick and went on a hiatus instead, the last few weeks have got me thinking that I've had enough now and if I pull the pin it'll be permanent this time.

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Somehow, we've allowed Spurs to become our bogey side at the ETIHAD despite winning our last three games at their ground.

However, they were undoubtedly fitter and more focussed, and dare, I suggest that they'd enjoyed a proper pre-season whereas we looked as though we'd be ready by mid September.

Still fucks us all off with a vengeance losing to that lot though, doesn't it?

;-)

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

As I said in Rico's thread, negative posters are always "right" on Bluemoon regardless of whether they're correct or not - because they whine and whine and whine more positive posters into submission with complaint after complaint after complaint. They make this forum a worse place.

You can suggest something like "Lewis is a kid who needs a bit of support and maybe needs to be played in midfield for us to see the best of him", and all you get in response is about five different people shouting BUT WHO DOES LEWIS REPLACE WHO DO YOU DROP TO PLAY HIM HE'LL NEVER BE ANY GOOD WE NEED TO SELL HIM HE'S CRAP.

Can't win a debate when all some people want is an argument.

There's double edged swords and then there's this.....

The 'always right' argument cuts both ways and I could equally argue that it's utterly tiresome to come on here with an opinion about where we're heading or Pep's demonstrable difficulty in finding a solution to the parked bus/counterattacking tactics we're facing almost every week, etc etc, and get met with a barrage of 'fanny', 'wet wipe', 'thinks he knows better than Pep' comments, and so on and so on. It's a forum. Good, bad, positive, negative, insightful, ill conceived, intelligent, thick. That's the nature, and the point, of it

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

Been noticing this since his first season. It's odd for such a big fella. He just isn't very good. I notice that the timing of his jump is often slightly out. I can't explain it — he must work on it, surely? I thought it was going to improve. But there's little evidence that it has.
Obviously lethal, with both feet, and a terrific turn of pace. Technically, he's less accomplished than Sergio, by some distance. But he'll always score goals, and that's mainly what he's here for, after all.

A good example was the free header that he scored at the swamp despite jumping too soon and then heading straight through Onana's hands when all the text books were screaming for him to head it down.
I'm sure Onana had earlier saved from a similar header

 

[madloaf]

Still fucks us all off with a vengeance losing to that lot though, doesn't it?

;-)

It doesn't though it seems. It would appear that winning everything repeatedly and wonderfully for a decade has now meant that losing is not a problem. An apparent trade off occurred: would you like unprecedented success but when it ends you can no longer get upset at losing. Some signed up for that (older fans perhaps), some didn't (skewing younger?). Personally losing now (in the manner we did yesterday) leaves me equally cheesed off as it did 10/20 years ago.

 

[johnnytapia]

If you don’t like it, don’t read it.

 

[Asa's left peg]

I think expressing your opinion is fine and posters of a differing opinion can choose to ignore it, knowing you know more - just be above those no nowts. Take a break, go for a walk, talk to the wife - you will probably get more sense.

For the happy clappers, it's incredulous reality of how a kfa from midtown Utah or a life long foc from Staly V, can imagine that they know more than a manager that has exceeded everyone and everything that has been done in the game, when at best, they never got above playing 5 a side with their mates.

For others it maybe that there are frustrations in their own life, that's how my Dad used to do it or they genuinely believe they are right. (or other shit) That's ok.

The one thing I personally take from it, is that in the stadium, I think the majority are still supportive, knowing nobody on that pitch is useless and would have been found out after years in the system.

 

[hilts]

As a regular contributor to the forum, and a fan since 1968, I am looking at the forum tonight, and for large parts of last season, wondering how I can avoid becoming so utterly irritated by mindless comments. Apparently Rico is the least athletic player in the entire league, Cherki will have the flair taken from him, and Pep will ruin Omar Marmoush, just as three examples. Every single one of us feels a defeat, but does it really need to come with comments so devoid of sense or sporting insight because we didn't take away the points and have lost our heads?

I wasn't at York away so I don't feel I've earnt an opinion :-)

 

[Lavinda Past]

Ironically the posters that @oldius refers to have come out in force in this thread.

I got talked out of deleting my account a few seasons back by Rick and went on a hiatus instead, the last few weeks have got me thinking that I've had enough now and if I pull the pin it'll be permanent this time.

 

[burning blue soul]

I tend to think the opposite. The more sanguine recognise where we are, understand that we are not currently the best, and know that it takes time to get back. There is nothing constructive about saying players are shit or fat, apart from it being untrue, so frailties are with those who go berserk at every dropped point. New players, new coaches, new DOF.

If you look through any pre-match thread there will be at least 10 different posters saying words to the effect of "I'm surprised the dickhead negative mob havent started" or "I'm just waiting for the dickhead negative lot to start with their whining" or "the match thread will be full of the dickhead negative whiners"
Every-effing-time. Where's the "getting behind the team" talk there?
When posters have confirmation bias to that level they will find someone to direct their ire at if shit goes wrong OR call them out for not moaning if shit goes right.
It's ludicrous!!
Some folk are just out for a Rumble, no matter what. And woe betide the poor schmuck who forgets to leave his emotions at the log-in page, cos somebody has already decided he's gonna get it both barrels.

There is a problem in here, but it's not from the folk you'd immediately think.

 

[Marvin.]

I have not seen City comprehensively beaten in our first home game for some time. At this moment in the season, fans are at their most hopeful. What we watched yesterday was a shock and unexpected, therefore you will get a significant reaction. In that reaction, there will be reasoned comment, and there will be insults.

 

[Mike N]

This place has got so moaning and needy that it’s getting difficult to stay on. Every single thread has moaning and negative comments. For example, the North Stand thread, even there the moaning is strong.

Every player, everything Pep or the club does gets criticised.

I’m so glad I don’t sit next to some of the cry-babies on here. No wonder we’ve lost lots of intelligent, respectful former posters.

 

[Gundoggin]

Social media is destroying the world whilst right wing billionaire oligarchs get richer and more powerful. Disinformation and fury over truth ………. get real people !

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

The Pep will ruin Marmoush comment has some grain of truth. One of my conclusion from that game is that Marmoush is ineffective on the left wing. That's not based on this game alone. I think if we want to play Haaland and Marmoush then Pep has to play another system to fit them in.

I'm not minded that Pep will 'ruin' Marmoush, if only because I'm not particularly convinced there's anything specific to ruin. Notwithstanding the off-field issues that may or may not have contributed to Jack Grealish's demise at City, based on the argument that he should have been deployed more regularly as a no.10 (and born out by some very good performances when he was handed that role) than a left winger, and, whether you agree with it or not, you could at least make a semblance of a case for claiming that Pep's management of Jack contributed to our failure to get the very best out of him. That's not an argument I think you can sustain about Marmoush. He's not a left winger, he's not a no.10, he can't lead a line. A useful squad player, who will have better days than yesterday and will pick up a few goals along the way, but ultimately I don't think he'd make the starting XI for Spurs or Bournemouth, never mind Liverpool or Arsenal, and I'm not convinced anything Pep does will ruin him in any way shape or form

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

It’s doing my head in. The level of entitlement and rag like behaviour from so called city fans. Not just on here, but online in general is becoming awful.

After one defeat, I repeat one defeat, half the teams not good enough and needs to be sold. We’ve got young players like Trafford and Lewis and brands new signings getting absolutely torn to shreds.

Some of these YouTubers in particular analyse the game to death and spread that unbelievably negative message.