America Is On The Cusp of Fascism

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BlueMoonAcrossThePond

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America is on the cusp of fascism - and yet, I've read very little pushback from news outlets on this obvious fact.

Wake up America! Trump is deploying the national guard, FFS, with little consequential pushback in Democratic states - under the pretext to fight crime; give me a break; Trump is doing this to inure America to the deployment of the military into the USA itself.

Come 2026, midterm election time, what on earth to you think is going to happen? If Republicans lose the majority in the House or the Senate, Trump is going go declare election results going to Democrats void - full of corruption - and will deploy the military/national guard to seize voting machines to identify those responsible for the corruption - among other measures to ensure that he has unfettered power.

Why do I believe this?
1) Trump has frequently floated the idea of ending elections and becoming a dictator (some news coverage of this);
2) Trump has stated that he wants to run for a (unconstitutional) 3rd term (some news coverage of this);
3) Trump has stated in his Presidential campaign that once elected, MAGA will no longer need to fear the vote (by implication he'll make sure that votes no longer occur or will rig them in his favor);
4) Circa 2025 - Trump is (mostly) following project 2025 - he's eliminated all opposition to his positions in all institutions under federal control - save perhaps the judiciary - the FBI/CIA/Army/Navy/Marines/National Guard/Justice Department/CDC/and so on, are now under his total control;
5) Trump is deploying the military ahead of congressional elections in 2026 to left-leaning states/cities... this is (IMO) primarily to inure the public to an active military presence in Democratic states/jurisdictions. Ahead of his use of the military/national guard to overturn 2026 elections not in his favor.

What's going to happen in 2026?, assuming that Trump is still alive:
1) If Republicans retain control of the House and Senate, probably little;
2) If Republicans lose control of either the House or the Senate, then Trump will declare, via executive order, that the subset of results not in his favor are tainted - void - fraught with corruption - and so on - and will deploy the military/national guard/whatever to seize voting machines in districts/states that voted against MAGA.

What will happen in 2026 should Trump attempt to take the actions outlined above?... I honestly don't know. Maybe he'll succeed (most likely), but perhaps, just maybe, there will be an awakening and pushback (but I think that this is far less likely).

Democracy in America may well be already dead.
 
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BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Worse still... so many miss the connection... or having realized it, are unable to give voice.
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Likely the latter. Voting for the same shit twice is naturally dispiriting and when you start to see armed troops on the streets this will further discourage dissent and then seeing institutions meant to safeguard the public being co-opted, you start to wonder what can you do, especially if your vote is going to be disrespected (for me this was always the worst crime) with endless legal challenges. How any electorate can vote in a person who openly disrespects and disregards your vote - the one thing that gives the population actual power over those in charge - is the definition of self harm.

The Judiciary with the Supreme Court is already gone. Self-preservation will determine how they vote on issues. The Constitution will be a secondary consideration. Outside of the SC, the judiciary appears to be doing its job which is encouraging.

How do you fight it? The corporate Democrats cannot fight it, at best they will ride it out. You need more grass roots - the Memdani’s in NY, the Platner’s in Maine. They need what Newsom is doing because it gives the Dems visibility rather than the impression of hiding.

The Dems need outsiders, because outsiders can wIn Republican voters getting repeatedly kicked in the teeth by Republicans in areas that are deep red. You can only beat a dog so far until it turns.

It will need Dems to run a Memdani type figure in 2028. The next few years will radicalise a lot of voters on both sides of the divide for different reasons and you need someone like Memdani or Platner to tap into that.

Just my two cents looking in from afar.
 
BobKowalski said:
Likely the latter. Voting for the same shit twice is naturally dispiriting and when you start to see armed troops on the streets this will further discourage dissent and then seeing institutions meant to safeguard the public being co-opted, you start to wonder what can you do, especially if your vote is going to be disrespected (for me this was always the worst crime) with endless legal challenges. How any electorate can vote in a person who openly disrespects and disregards your vote - the one thing that gives the population actual power over those in charge - is the definition of self harm.

The Judiciary with the Supreme Court is already gone. Self-preservation will determine how they vote on issues. The Constitution will be a secondary consideration. Outside of the SC, the judiciary appears to be doing its job which is encouraging.

How do you fight it? The corporate Democrats cannot fight it, at best they will ride it out. You need more grass roots - the Memdani’s in NY, the Platner’s in Maine. They need what Newsom is doing because it gives the Dems visibility rather than the impression of hiding.

The Dems need outsiders, because outsiders can wIn Republican voters getting repeatedly kicked in the teeth by Republicans in areas that are deep red. You can only beat a dog so far until it turns.

It will need Dems to run a Memdani type figure in 2028. The next few years will radicalise a lot of voters on both sides of the divide for different reasons and you need someone like Memdani or Platner to tap into that.

Just my two cents looking in from afar.
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The point of my thread is that it's very possibly too late. Elections in 2026, should they go against Trump's wishes, will be voided. And there's nothing that's going to stop this.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
The point of my thread is that it's very possibly too late. Elections in 2026, should they go against Trump's wishes, will be voided. And there's nothing that's going to stop this.
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Quite possible. But, I think any action taken will be targeted and only those seats that are close. Enough to fix the election at the margins - a ten seat D majority becomes a ten seat R majority. There will need to be some fiction of legal pretext and so far the judiciary has not been cooperative.

If the midterms are not close and it’s a big D majority then what? Ignore them? Void them? On what grounds? Force? A military enforced election result? The SC simply ruling every elected seat is invalid? How will individual States react? Does it become a ‘no taxation without representation’ rallying cry?

Gerrymandering is also a dangerous game to play. Overdo it and you can easily get wiped out electorally if enough people are riled up.
 
Trump is demonstrating how frail democracy is since it relies on consent. The division of powers under the constitution has proved disastrous, making it easy for a rogue president to subvert the rule of law.
 
KS55 said:
Trump is demonstrating how frail democracy is since it relies on consent. The division of powers under the constitution has proved disastrous, making it easy for a rogue president to subvert the rule of law.
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This is true to a degree, though it would never be happening had the Congressional GOP done its job, as it did (eventually) with Nixon. Also enabling — the decline of traditional media in favo(u)r of internet-based information which has allowed lies to become truth in a way not seen previously.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
This is true to a degree, though it would never be happening had the Congressional GOP done its job, as it did (eventually) with Nixon. Also enabling — the decline of traditional media in favo(u)r of internet-based information which has allowed lies to become truth in a way not seen previously.
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Tbf, the authors of the constitution could not have envisaged the way the internet has enabled lies to become truth or how easy it has made the growth of a cult, including inside the congressional GOP. It would have been Goering’s ultimate weapon. Trump has captured all three parts of the system.
Meanwhile, prices are down, the price of medical drugs is down by 2,500%, and Greenland is part of the USA.
 
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I wonder if the way to resist Trump is for states to raise ‘a well regulated militia’.
 
He is an eighty year old fat bastard, and seems to only eat cheeseburgers. Surely there must be a good chance of a wee stroke - of good luck? Mind you that makes the odious JD Vance president.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
The **** literally told the US electorate that he was going to be a dictator and the daft cunts still voted him in.
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Mate, many of those who voted for him WANT a dictator as long as they hate the same people he purports to hate. These voters WANT those “against them” to suffer. It’s simple and expedient and requires little thought, and is easily rationalizable morally.
 
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