What has the UK become under the far right influence?

[halfcenturyup]

Just a thought, but, If mainstream political parties gave a shit about the common man/woman then maybe Reform wouldn't be on the rise?

For once I agree with you, if you modified your comment to say "gave a shit about the concerns of the common man". The same mistake as was made over in America. They got Trump. We could get Farage. Stupid naivety.

 

[oldius]

This belief that billionaires are going to help the common man by dealing with a common man with brown skin is as old as time, and we have seemingly never learnt. Not only is the billionaire not going to help you, but he is also going to tell you who to hate, and then he is going to take your money while you are busy looking the other way. In the process, you will become angrier and more miserable, shrinking your world behind your RING doorbell, convinced that they're out to get you. The billionaire will use his media platforms to do it. He will preach patriotism yet pay little tax. He will tell you that the common man with brown skin is stealing your appointment while he stealthily moves the nation from NHS to private insurance owned by his friend; he will tell you that the brown man is taking your homes while his mate builds luxury apartments on land set aside for social housing.

Please, for goodness sake, open your eyes.

 

[BridgyDids]

Union jack flags on Dalton mosque put up by owners not protesters - BBC News

South Lakes Islamic Centre says it put up the flags because the mosque is "proudly part of Britain".

www.bbc.com

This will confuse a few people.

Well done to the South Lakes Islamic Centre, for showing openness and warmth to those who may protest them.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

This belief that billionaires are going to help the common man by dealing with a common man with brown skin is as old as time, and we have seemingly never learnt. Not only is the billionaire not going to help you, but he is also going to tell you who to hate, and then he is going to take your money while you are busy looking the other way. In the process, you will become angrier and more miserable, shrinking your world behind your RING doorbell, convinced that they're out to get you. The billionaire will use his media platforms to do it. He will preach patriotism yet pay little tax. He will tell you that the common man with brown skin is stealing your appointment while he stealthily moves the nation from NHS to private insurance owned by his friend; he will tell you that the brown man is taking your homes while his mate builds luxury apartments on land set aside for social housing.

Please, for goodness sake, open your eyes.

Worth another read ;-)

 

[BimboBob]

This belief that billionaires are going to help the common man by dealing with a common man with brown skin is as old as time, and we have seemingly never learnt. Not only is the billionaire not going to help you, but he is also going to tell you who to hate, and then he is going to take your money while you are busy looking the other way. In the process, you will become angrier and more miserable, shrinking your world behind your RING doorbell, convinced that they're out to get you. The billionaire will use his media platforms to do it. He will preach patriotism yet pay little tax. He will tell you that the common man with brown skin is stealing your appointment while he stealthily moves the nation from NHS to private insurance owned by his friend; he will tell you that the brown man is taking your homes while his mate builds luxury apartments on land set aside for social housing.

Please, for goodness sake, open your eyes.

I haven't got a ring door bell.

 

[Tiattos_Waterbottle]

Union jack flags on Dalton mosque put up by owners not protesters - BBC News

South Lakes Islamic Centre says it put up the flags because the mosque is "proudly part of Britain".

www.bbc.com

This will confuse a few people.

Well done to the South Lakes Islamic Centre, for showing openness and warmth to those who may protest them.

This is brill, true spirit of the country.

 

[Marklr]

This belief that billionaires are going to help the common man by dealing with a common man with brown skin is as old as time, and we have seemingly never learnt. Not only is the billionaire not going to help you, but he is also going to tell you who to hate, and then he is going to take your money while you are busy looking the other way. In the process, you will become angrier and more miserable, shrinking your world behind your RING doorbell, convinced that they're out to get you. The billionaire will use his media platforms to do it. He will preach patriotism yet pay little tax. He will tell you that the common man with brown skin is stealing your appointment while he stealthily moves the nation from NHS to private insurance owned by his friend; he will tell you that the brown man is taking your homes while his mate builds luxury apartments on land set aside for social housing.

Please, for goodness sake, open your eyes.

He will appear to the nation as frog like and deceive the population as he has before. His followers will be from the pits of hell and hang familiar sign to lampposts in order to deceive others. They will have many missing teeth and brain cells.

 

[mancboy]

Have you visited the rest of this forum? :)

I try not to ;)

 

[Scottyboi]

I’m Welsh grew up in Manchester but spent a lot of my youth and adult life in Wales, finally got settled here. Mrs L has an Irish passport through her mother. I’ve decided to apply for mine, via hers
These cunts are driving me out.

I read that you need to have lived in Ireland yourself to be able to qualify via your wife. When did you apply?

 

[blueparrot]

I read that you need to have lived in Ireland yourself to be able to qualify via your wife. When did you apply?

Think that's right my daughter has an Irish boyfriend but even if they marry she needs to be living there to apply for a passport, 5 years I think she said.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Just a thought, but, If mainstream political parties gave a shit about the common man/woman then maybe Reform wouldn't be on the rise?

You have a point.

Definitely the case.

Not sure Reform is a better alternative, and suspect they dont give much of a toss about the common man either.

You're right, they don't

But the greatest betrayal is from the left, you know the folk who are supposed to give a shit.

Not anymore.

The middle class "radical" left have rejected everything their ma and papa believed, with the sole exception of their hatred for the great unwashed....



This is a caricature from both sides of the political divide, the rosy portrayal of the Epping protesters is par for the course, I would expect nothing less from the right, lying is their bread and butter, but who can argue that the left does not fear the Gammonzilla?

This place is full of self professed progressives who delight in spitting on the untermenschen in post after post.

 

[Don Karleone]

He's probably the most high-profile example of someone completely ruined by social media. He seemed like a lovely bloke back in the day, and you only ever heard good things about him, but he's latched onto a cause, taken on this role as some sort of moral crusader, and been radicalized on Twitter over years. Having said that, have you actually seen what he was arrested for?



I mean it's obviously a joke. A distasteful one perhaps, but can you genuinely make an argument that it's inciting violence? Although slightly ironic given that he calls a trans woman going into a female space a 'violent act' in the tweet.

Reading some of the court transcript, it's a bit more than just that tweet.

 

[oldius]

This place is full of self professed progressives who delight in spitting on the untermenschen in post after post.

In my family, I have Brexit voters and far-right protesters, Mail readers and GB News viewers. I am surrounded by their political discourse. I listen to it, so I am fully aware of their opinions.
They believe that Israel is defending itself. They believe that kids are in danger from immigrants. They believe that those migrating from the UK take their income and pensions with them and contribute to their chosen country while those arriving just want to leech from the state. They believe that 'illegals' are given ipads and Sky TV. They believe that they cannot get a doctor's appointment because of immigrants. They think the kids can't get a house because of immigrants. They believe there's too much traffic because of immigrants. They believe we need to 'look after our own'. They believe that veterans are on the streets because of immigrants. They believe that billionaires will flee the country if they are asked to pay more tax. They voted Conservative, then UKIP and will now vote Reform.

I don't spit on my family, but I despair that they have chosen the diet of news they have from TV stations owned by Dubai investment groups and newspapers owned by non-doms operating through a complex array of trusts. Their political views are like watching or reading from an autocue for the presenters of those channels. That they believe in these organisations that preach about lost public services while making little fiscal contribution to the nation is a head-shaker to me.

We are now so polarised that it isn't spitting on an underclass that is the issue, but finding some opinions so unpalatable that you cannot even begin to understand someone feeling that way if they actually have the intellectual capability to read and view and critically analyse the evidence before them.

 

[lloydie]

I read that you need to have lived in Ireland yourself to be able to qualify via your wife. When did you apply?

I’ve not yet but as she has hers and we’ve been married and lived together for over 3 years then I qualify as her spouse. Reading back this rule was in effect when we married but that may well have changed post brexit and the huge increase in applications that they experienced.

 

[urban genie]

What confuses me is these lot seem to be confused themselves.

they claim to represent the protecting the culture of the anglo -saxon indeginous people under threat, yet

Anglo saxon were immigrants who came here illegally on boats and stole the land belonging to the britons post Roman occupation.
They never used the term britain and in fact discarded the term for the Islands bar in historic geographical terms, greater britain for the UK Island and smaller Britain for Ireland.
They pre date the St George, and the act of union and the reintroduction of the name Great Britain for the union and adoption of the first union flag.
Some try to use Albion also but that is a first recorded in greek writing in ancient times and fuck all to do with the germanic tribes these patriots lay claim to, in fact those from Albion, Hibernia and Alba were more likely darker skined and worshiped the sun, moon and stars the unchristian cunts ;-)
Finally, the great britain they long for, the pomp and circumstance, rule the waves, sun never sets, where the union flag flown proudly, was the bigest multicultural, multi-faith entity since the Roman Empire, fuck me the Flag itself belongs not to just these shores but 23 other nations as well as protectorates



These things don't seem to matter and they seem to not understand to want to embrace britishness you have to embrace that when the country srarted using Great Britain as it's name we were already multi-faith and multicultural.

 

[Don Karleone]

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Reading some of the court transcript, it's a bit more than just that tweet.

Is it? The newspapers only reported 3 tweets, and only that one could have realistically been considered inciting violence (the others potentially could have been construed as inciting hatred though). Do you know what else he did?

 

[Scottyboi]

I’ve not yet but as she has hers and we’ve been married and lived together for over 3 years then I qualify as her spouse. Reading back this rule was in effect when we married but that may well have changed post brexit and the huge increase in applications that they experienced.

Yeah I believe you need to live in Ireland for 5 years yourself now to qualify. Doesn't matter anyway being her husband you can still move anywhere in the EU together with certain conditions met.

 

[blueparrot]

Union jack flags on Dalton mosque put up by owners not protesters - BBC News

South Lakes Islamic Centre says it put up the flags because the mosque is "proudly part of Britain".

www.bbc.com

This will confuse a few people.

Well done to the South Lakes Islamic Centre, for showing openness and warmth to those who may protest them.

Yes ,though like at least half the union flags I saw on my trip down to England last week it's upside down.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Union jack flags on Dalton mosque put up by owners not protesters - BBC News

South Lakes Islamic Centre says it put up the flags because the mosque is "proudly part of Britain".

www.bbc.com

This will confuse a few people.

Well done to the South Lakes Islamic Centre, for showing openness and warmth to those who may protest them.

Oh this was one that came up when I was back visiting my parents a few weeks ago. From the amount of whinging, you'd think they were building a replica of a Hagia Sophia.