I think a lot of people attach some weight to what Lawton, Ziegler and Keegan have said today. They all think that the lucrative Etihad deal has been waved through. Those three have been at the forefront of reporting on the APT case and, to the best of my knowledge, haven't got anything wrong about it thus far. I think widespread optimism amongst our fans is therefore understandable.I don't think it has been well explained - not really what has happened.
We’ve accepted the amended rules ie those that deem our Etihad deal to be lawful.That seems to be the wider opinion, yes.
I don't see the two adding up though.
yes - even guidance now goes in the rules but a firm, this is what rule xxxx means needs to be in the rules. Can't be slipped into a private settlement. Don't recognise that re Puma - not a FMV deal. There remains a question as to what the status of the rules was between the revised rules and the APT amendments.Is an agreement on how the panel interpret the rules really a change of rules ?
Similarly, City’s deal with Puma demonstrated that the PL had been very niggardly in assessing FMV in our case. I think they effectively admitted to not casting the comparative net wide enough and denied us data about their benchmarks. City sources seem to be saying blocked deals will now be reassessed.
In any case, the way the rules are now rumoured to be interpreted will apply to all. I suppose the devil is in the detail which I think should be published.
Bollox. This is big business. They were after the best outcome for the club, which they got, not something you can use down the pub.The thing I don't like and may probably annoy others is the fact, supporters after years of defending the club against other fans, listening to biased pundits on radio and television and having to read aggresive articles in the press and social media, the club have decided to go along the route of 'no comment' leaving supporters in no mans land after years of defending the trenches. The powers that be are becoming so detached from the fan base, other than scripted media releases there is nothing that considers the anger the fans have had to endure from all angles over the last few years. If we 'win' the 115 I hope they don't do the same.
Any year now.So do we reckon the 115 outcome will be announced shortly ?
It doesn’t because they’ve agreed not to say anything so they release the information via the usual sources in the press. It’s all games.Don't think the club would have kept fighting it of they came to the opinion the rules were lawful and it was a lost cause. That would be irresponsible, particularly with the ongoing 115 and where that is at.
Where does any official statement claim the Etihad deal baing passed is a part of this settlement?
They have been all repeating what they are told which will have been carefully worded to be both true but also partial.I think a lot of people attach some weight to what Lawton, Ziegler and Keegan have said today. They all think that the lucrative Etihad deal has been waved through. Those three have been at the forefront of reporting on the APT case and, to the best of my knowledge, haven't got anything wrong about it thus far. I think widespread optimism amongst our fans is therefore understandable.
I think that may have a been a bit of a whoosh moment for you ;)sorted thanks
BBC have opened the City report to comment? Shock, horror. What a surprise.The comments on BBC Football and under the Daily Mail article are hilarious.
Yes but City will 100% have traded that statement for something. City had nothing to lose on APT2 but costs. Even a complete defeat on APT2 would just have put then in the position they already are. So to settle, the PL has offered something.Exactly, so in theory, nothing needs done.
I think if 115 is dealt with the same way I would share your opinion for the points you say. But in this instance with 115 result still to be announced I’m not sure club could do anything elseThe thing I don't like and may probably annoy others is the fact, supporters after years of defending the club against other fans, listening to biased pundits on radio and television and having to read aggresive articles in the press and social media, the club have decided to go along the route of 'no comment' leaving supporters in no mans land after years of defending the trenches. The powers that be are becoming so detached from the fan base, other than scripted media releases there is nothing that considers the anger the fans have had to endure from all angles over the last few years. If we 'win' the 115 I hope they don't do the same.
This should be fun!BBC have opened the City report to comment? Shock, horror. What a surprise.
I’m here to help :-)
Mmm
Not sure I share your pessimism mate.
They have a track record of misrepresenting pretty much anything on City as long as it makes us look bad…
Wasn't a mistake. It was just nothing significant despite the pages on here about it. Nobody settles something for peanuts if significant.City settled with Liverpool for hacking our player database.
Which, in hindsight, was a mistake, as we all know.
City should have taken Liverpool to court, unless there was something City didn't want disclosed?
Just like the APT settlement with the PL, we'll never find out.
and “c” is worth about £200 million to City?yes - even guidance now goes in the rules but a firm, this is what rule xxxx means needs to be in the rules. Can't be slipped into a private settlement. Don't recognise that re Puma - not a FMV deal. There remains a question as to what the status of the rules was between the revised rules and the APT amendments.
The detail will be published to the extent it relates to any of this stuff. I suspect it doesn't and the settlement was more focussed on a) costs, b) the PL putting to the clubs some tweaks to the rules, c) confirmation that the PL do not require further evidence of the CAGR annual uplift on the Etihad deal.
A settlement must be good ish for both sides though. Or City wouldn't have settled surely?I don't think it has been well explained - not really what has happened.
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So we've spent millions on a legal challenge to the PL rules on APT and now we're happy for Keegan et al to leak it out that we're walking away with a significant win over the Etihad deal ? Doesn't add up to me.It doesn’t because they’ve agreed not to say anything so they release the information via the usual sources in the press. It’s all games.
Don't think the club would have kept fighting it of they came to the opinion the rules were lawful and it was a lost cause. That would be irresponsible, particularly with the ongoing 115 and where that is at.
Where does any official statement claim the Etihad deal baing passed is a part of this settlement?