Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah university

jamesha said:
I'll bet many of the MAGA senior figures like Stephen Miller are delighted with this outcome. Goebbels used the murder of Horst Wessel - an SA thug - in 1930 a cornerstone of Nazi propaganda and I can see the same happening here.
The shooter has not been found and I don't think they will be as they are more valuable as a bogeyman to "justify" more draconian actions by Trump's goons.
It is not totally crazy to think that this shooting was arranged to create a martyr and distract from the Epstein files.
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Sadly not an unlikely scenario. It could easily be part of the plan anyway irrespective of Epstein. It’s wound up the MAGA nuts and given them licence to start taking the law into their own hands against those they perceive as not being on Trump’s side. It will also give Trump the pretext to send troops into more Dem cities due to real or imagined civil disorder.
 
domalino said:
He literally said the 1965 civil rights act that made racial discrimination illegal and gave black people the vote was "a huge mistake" because it brought about diversity in american politics and now we're having debates about if the man was racist or not.
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Always found it odd how openly racist people go into denial when being called a racist. Why not just own it.
 
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MCFC1993 said:
It's a both sides problem, as in both sides need a get a grip with guns.

There has been assassinations on both sides of the political divide in the last 2 months. However, one doesnt suit the narrative of your post.
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I have no narrative - I don't have a preference or opinion on US Politics.

I just think everyone is a fucking nutcase, and the world is scary.
 
Impossible to put politics to one side in this but regardless of political views, If you make a living from being a horrible piece of shit that intentionally tries to antagonise as many people as possible, expect some lunatic to bite. The world is no worse off for his demise.
 
west didsblue said:
Sadly not an unlikely scenario. It could easily be part of the plan anyway irrespective of Epstein. It’s wound up the MAGA nuts and given them licence to start taking the law into their own hands against those they perceive as not being on Trump’s side. It will also give Trump the pretext to send troops into more Dem cities due to real or imagined civil disorder.
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Would it surprise anyone if Trump was behind this?
 
ninjamonkey said:
Impossible to put politics to one side in this but regardless of political views, If you make a living from being a horrible piece of shit that intentionally tries to antagonise as many people as possible, expect some lunatic to bite. The world is no worse off for his demise.
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Sadly the world will be worse off for his demise due to the deliberate stoking of tensions by Trump and his supporters. The backlash will be quite unpleasant and although it will mostly affect the US, there’s no shortage of these loons all over the place. Even this forum is bringing the nutters out of the woodwork.
 
Scottyboi said:
He'd been put in that category for a reason, just because you can't be arsed delving into who he is and using some sympathy tweet from a 'black friend' doesn't change who he was.
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Just read up on some his views. Do I agree with them all? No. Do I think he deserved to die for them? No.

If he was killed by someone for his political viewpoints it's a scary thought.

Radical left, far right. All bell ends fighting to score points against one another.
 
oakiecokie said:
You were probably a supporter of the sniper who only grazed Trumps earhole. If you live by the sword then expect the consequences.
Extremism hahahahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. LOL.
People also made me cringe "well he leaves a wife and children behind". Yes I feel sorry for his kids but not his missus as no doubt she holds the same moronic views as her husband, otherwise why stay with a nutter and then subject your kids to listening to his views.
No doubt you`re also a Farage nut job supporter also.
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I would feel for you if your missus was shot and killed by a sniper bullet but would you feel sorry for your loss if you held the same views as she did?

Whether you hold the same views as someone else does not entitle you at least under UK law to go and pop someone whose views you disagree with whether you think they are nutter or othewise means once you are found you will be tried and go to jail for a long time once convicted.

Many who care enough would think your views are the views of a nutter whose first line above intimates it ok to kill someone or attempt to kill someone or at best expect someone to kill someone whose views they disagree view or behaviour they do not condone which is the act of a nutter who needs to be locked up for good or in this case in Utah be given the death penalty once tried and convicted.

I think she married him because of the same reasons your married your current wife.

He was pro family a self confessed Christian but it seems you know a lot more about him than me so I guess he lived at least in part rent free in your head which says a bit more about you than it does him.

I am no fan of the orange man but I don't believe he deserves to be assassinated for what he does and says no more than Barack Obama or the ever absent Joe Biden who sadly suffered from vascular dementia for most of his presidency and will probably succumb to it in due course.

You are an example of what suppression of free speech can do to people who end up barracking for violence against those they cannot agree with or handle their rhetoric.

I don't want you on my debating team we would be laughed of the stage or worse still be running for our lives.
 
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