Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah university

[liveandletdive]

Unlike you I don't think all the world's ills are down to Arabs or Moslems. You just carry on buying all the daily mail bullshit or whatever idiotic media you eat up.

I definitely don't think all the worlds ills are from the Muslims, to be honest the likes of George Soros, Klaus, Gates, Blackrock etc are far more dangerous, would you take those out as well, or is it just any right wing individuals you dont like?

 

[KS55]

Those were the days. Can you imagine the Beeb doing that now? There would be a twitter riot. Gentler times then.

 

[meltonblue]

The shit hits the fan when you get some middle class liberal bellend wearing a vagina outfit screaming kill Nazis and punch a right winger.

And on the other side white militia open carrying intimidating people and black panther types doing exactly the same thing.

All driven IMHO by a complicit shit agenda driven media who couldn't give a fuck. Again though someone will think it's not them it's always the other guy.

Nowt wrong with being a righty or a lefty but the extremes are cunts, what we shouldn't do is allow wankers with guns or wearing pussy hats to decide where that extreme starts and ends.

Problem now is everyone slightly on one side or the other (or have views that differ depending on the topic, which was the norm really not that long ago!) are portrayed as extreme from the other person slightly on the other side to them.

We’ve gone so binary and fucking stupid as a consequence.

 

[yankblue]

Can't believe there are so many posts on this. He was a a pretty terrible person who, frankly, doesn't warrant this level of attention or sympathy. There was (another) school shooting the next state over on the same day. That deserves more attention than a person who is on record saying that shooting deaths should be accepted if Americans want to have an armed populace.

 

[happy_blue_apple]

No it isn't. He's a two bob gobshite like Tommy Robinson. Nothing like JFK or MLK. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I think you're underestimating his influence. Not two-bob at all. His Turning Point USA stuff has had a big influence on going voters in USA. He could turn up at universities for his debates and draw massive crowds, both supporters and people there to oppose . There's a reason Trump and Vance worked closely with him during the election, he was very useful for them with his reach to young voters.

Same with Robinson. Look at how many will turn up in London this weekend.

Whether you agree with them or not, they have a very big reach and their murders for their beliefs would be a huge deal, as we've seen this week with Kirk.

Either way, they're certainly not two-bob. If you oppose them, then you're a fool for thinking they're two-bob and completely underestimating them. As I say, just have a look at how many people will be in London for Robinson's event this weekend. Figures from all over the world are flying there to give speeches. You add up all their followings and you'll find a hell of a lot of people and it's ever growing.

It's people like you who probably laughed at the thought Donald Trump could become president, completely underestimating the fact there's a LOT of people out there who don't live in a very left wing mainstream media driven echo chamber

 

[happy_blue_apple]

I don’t do X, et al, so haven’t really heard of Kirk, or his views. Following his death, I had a look around and it looks like he was a very intelligent bloke who realised a gap in the market where political types were missing out on influencing the young, grooming some may say.

Made an absolute fortune from it, and listening to a young follower this morning on the radio, where he couldn’t wait to mention how Kirk had turned it into a ‘multi-100 million dollar’ business, it’s quite easy to see why people go down this line.

They’ve monetised it so much, they’re now part of the establishment.

Well he was an advocate for the free market and anti communism and socialism, so it's understandable why he monetised it as much as possible.

 

[BlueHammer85]

The coverage of this is fucking ridiculous. 99.9% of the the U.K. population have never heard of this guy. Wall to wall coverage on main stream news.

Very out of touch im afraid, I’d say vast majority of 16-30 year olds know of him very well - he is constantly on the timelines of most people scrolling through social media and has millions of followers from the UK.

 

[happy_blue_apple]

That's a disgusting backwards quote, but Bible is a very old book. He shouldn't have posted it, yes.

Having said that, he doesn't wish gays death, though. For example, he is friends with Dave Rubin, so someone openly gay. There are more examples too.

You said:​

Was Dave Rubin friends with Charlie Kirk

ChatGPT said:​

Yes — Dave Rubin and Charlie Kirk have been friends and allies in the political/media space for several years.

• They’ve appeared together frequently on stages, panels, and podcasts. For example, Rubin has been a guest on The Charlie Kirk Show, and Kirk has joined The Rubin Report.
• Both have spoken at Turning Point USA events, where Rubin has sometimes been a featured speaker alongside Kirk.
• They often publicly praised each other’s work: Rubin calling Kirk a “rising star of the conservative movement,” and Kirk highlighting Rubin as an example of someone who left the political left and embraced more conservative/libertarian views.
• There’s video/photo evidence of them hanging out in both professional and more casual contexts, suggesting a friendly relationship beyond just occasional appearances.

Well that's the thing, many people are not one dimensional.

I have no problem with trans people. If that makes you happier and that's how you need to live your life, then great.

I do have a problem with allowing young kids to take medications and whatnot and cause irreversible damage when they're not really mature enough to think for themselves. I don't think there's any place for it.

People who subscribe to a very far left school of thought would call me transphobe for my latter view, even though it couldn't be further from the truth.

I know people who have no issues with gay people on a personal level, but still don't agree with gay marriage because they're very religious.

 

[oakiecokie]

Brilliant thanks mate.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Where is this list of examples from? Can they be linked to known interviews or articles?

Have you watched any of Kirk's online content?

This stuff is all over them.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

What’s with all the chat gpt?!

It's making people lazy.

 

[EL APACHE TEVEZ]

Some sick fucks on here,the blokes married with two kids and you are all squabbling like Cunts ooh he’s this he’s that ffs give it a rest wankers

 

[Don Karleone]

Very out of touch im afraid, I’d say vast majority of 16-30 year olds know of him very well - he is constantly on the timelines of most people scrolling through social media and has millions of followers from the UK.

Well, that's depressing.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Well he was an advocate for the free market and anti communism and socialism, so it's understandable why he monetised it as much as possible.

Really? If he was an advocate for the free market and supported Trump’s tariffs (which he did) then he should have taken a remedial economics class.

Personally, I think the reality is he had one “belief”: being pro-Trump gave him money, power and influence, which was good for Charlie Kirk.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I think you're underestimating his influence. Not two-bob at all. His Turning Point USA stuff has had a big influence on going voters in USA. He could turn up at universities for his debates and draw massive crowds, both supporters and people there to oppose . There's a reason Trump and Vance worked closely with him during the election, he was very useful for them with his reach to young voters.

Same with Robinson. Look at how many will turn up in London this weekend.

Whether you agree with them or not, they have a very big reach and their murders for their beliefs would be a huge deal, as we've seen this week with Kirk.

Either way, they're certainly not two-bob. If you oppose them, then you're a fool for thinking they're two-bob and completely underestimating them. As I say, just have a look at how many people will be in London for Robinson's event this weekend. Figures from all over the world are flying there to give speeches. You add up all their followings and you'll find a hell of a lot of people and it's ever growing.

It's people like you who probably laughed at the thought Donald Trump could become president, completely underestimating the fact there's a LOT of people out there who don't live in a very left wing mainstream media driven echo chamber

Everything becomes an echo chamber if you close yourself off.

 

[Bluemoon_420]

I think you're underestimating his influence. Not two-bob at all. His Turning Point USA stuff has had a big influence on going voters in USA. He could turn up at universities for his debates and draw massive crowds, both supporters and people there to oppose . There's a reason Trump and Vance worked closely with him during the election, he was very useful for them with his reach to young voters.

Same with Robinson. Look at how many will turn up in London this weekend.

Whether you agree with them or not, they have a very big reach and their murders for their beliefs would be a huge deal, as we've seen this week with Kirk.

Either way, they're certainly not two-bob. If you oppose them, then you're a fool for thinking they're two-bob and completely underestimating them. As I say, just have a look at how many people will be in London for Robinson's event this weekend. Figures from all over the world are flying there to give speeches. You add up all their followings and you'll find a hell of a lot of people and it's ever growing.

It's people like you who probably laughed at the thought Donald Trump could become president, completely underestimating the fact there's a LOT of people out there who don't live in a very left wing mainstream media driven echo chamber

I agree with what you’re saying about not underestimating the likes of Kirk or the little grifting cokehead from Luton. Their influence and reach regardless of their abhorrent views is undeniable and brushing them off as irrelevant is a mistake…

However I think you’ve misunderstood @robbieh point or maybe I have. I took it as the issue isn’t whether Kirk had influence, it’s the comparison to JFK and MLK. Those figures were fighting for equality and justice, whereas Kirk’s rhetoric for the most part aligns far more with someone like Tommy “PayPal” Robinson i.e. divisive and often hateful. So yes, influential, but the nature of that influence is worlds apart,

 

[Tiattos_Waterbottle]

I definitely don't think all the worlds ills are from the Muslims, to be honest the likes of George Soros, Klaus, Gates, Blackrock etc are far more dangerous, would you take those out as well, or is it just any right wing individuals you dont like?

We've entered full on tinfoil hat territory now.

 

[TinFoilHat]

We've entered full on tinfoil hat territory now.

What the fuck do you know about my territory?

:)

 

[Tiattos_Waterbottle]

What the fuck do you know about my territory?

:)

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I definitely don't think all the worlds ills are from the Muslims, to be honest the likes of George Soros, Klaus, Gates, Blackrock etc are far more dangerous, would you take those out as well, or is it just any right wing individuals you dont like?

I don’t mean to be a jerk, but this is a monumentally stupid post.