Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah university

He shouldn't ever been in the clink, though. You don't solve deep mental health issues with arrest, jail time and release. It's treatment they need.

Brown Jr. had been arrested 14 times and his family begged the authorities for mental health intervention.

It's hard not to say 'it's his fault', but it's not just him. The city, the state and the US gov are all complicit and one shouldn't ignore that.

Way too late for that now, my personal opinion is that people who murder like that all have a screw loose but they still fry.

He can't be that big of a twat can he? His family covering for his cuntishnesh?
 
There are some people who were they to die I'd celebrate with a seriously good glass of wine. Benjamin Netanyahu being top of the list.
I don't think anyone on here is suggesting that Mr Kirk was in that category and deserving of execution. On the other hand like a lot of religious people he held some pretty unpleasant beliefs. Whilst Christ seemed a decent bloke many of his followers are homophobic, ultra nationalist, extremely right wing and so on.
I think the world took a wrong step with monotheism and the cultures it spawned.
So Bejamin Netanyahu is top of your list, but not the leaders of Hamas, or the leaders of Iran, The Taliban etc, so we know whereabouts your priorities lie.
 
All I have seen is out of context so called quotes, mainly confirmation bias, or cognitive dissonance responses, yet to see any of the so called evil things he has said. Stupid things or inappropriate? Sure. Some post lies that he wishes death to gays (has many gays friends), or supports death (he said that according to him guns save more lives than not). The whole discussion is pointless. Are we really attempting to normalise murder? It is no wonder so few posters choose to engage in the politics subforum.

No one is normalising murder, you’re being completely disingenuous saying that.

You keep saying out of context when you are the one trying to take his own comments out of context too. You did it with his comments on empathy and also yes, he did say that gods “perfect law” meant stoning gay people to death, the vid has been posted on this thread. Doesn’t matter that he had gay friends, that doesn’t undo the words that he said to try and win an argument.

He said some absolutely abhorrent things at times. Does that mean he deserved to die? Of course not. I feel, unlike he would given he politicised deaths regularly himself, nothing but empathy for him and his family for that.

That does not mean that his elevation to martyr or the comments he made when he was alive should not still be challenged though.

You can’t expect to make comments about a topic you say you don’t really know much about, disingenuously interpret other people’s comments, and seemingly use ChatGPT to base your arguments off and not expect to get challenged. That isn’t a failing of this forum, that’s entirely on you.
 
That would be pretty normal and probably quite a lot higher than some of those abusing him on here.
I appreciate the response. Yes, a lot of sanctimonious behaviour here, people somewhat ironically thinking they are better than Kirk, so let's...ehm, kill him? I am not even a native speaker, nor I live in the UK, but I do make an effort to see several City games per season anyway. I am out of this thread though, it's not going anywhere.
 
I appreciate the response. Yes, a lot of sanctimonious behaviour here, people somewhat ironically thinking they are better than Kirk, so let's...ehm, kill him? I am not even a native speaker, nor I live in the UK, but I do make an effort to see several City games per season anyway. I am out of this thread though, it's not going anywhere.
Thing is, it really isn't that hard to be better than Kirk. Most people are. And, as has been pointed out, no one has said "kill him". Not once, so that's a load of shite. Bye Felicia, x
 
I appreciate the response. Yes, a lot of sanctimonious behaviour here, people somewhat ironically thinking they are better than Kirk, so let's...ehm, kill him? I am not even a native speaker, nor I live in the UK, but I do make an effort to see several City games per season anyway. I am out of this thread though, it's not going anywhere.
To better understand your point, where are you from, and what has this got to do with watching City?

You don’t watch every game, unless you’re about to lose a limb?
 
The coverage of this is fucking ridiculous. 99.9% of the the U.K. population have never heard of this guy. Wall to wall coverage on main stream news.
I personally wouldn't say 99.9% everyone I know, has heard about him, plus my lad in uni, they have all heard about him, I would say more like 70%.
And it should have wall to wall coverage, is this not the biggest assassination since Martin Luther or JFK?
 
So Bejamin Netanyahu is top of your list, but not the leaders of Hamas, or the leaders of Iran, The Taliban etc, so we know whereabouts your priorities lie.
Unlike you I don't think all the world's ills are down to Arabs or Moslems. You just carry on buying all the daily mail bullshit or whatever idiotic media you eat up.
 
I personally wouldn't say 99.9% everyone I know, has heard about him, plus my lad in uni, they have all heard about him, I would say more like 70%.
And it should have wall to wall coverage, is this not the biggest assassination since Martin Luther or JFK?
No it isn't. He's a two bob gobshite like Tommy Robinson. Nothing like JFK or MLK. You should be ashamed of yourself.
 
I personally wouldn't say 99.9% everyone I know, has heard about him, plus my lad in uni, they have all heard about him, I would say more like 70%.
And it should have wall to wall coverage, is this not the biggest assassination since Martin Luther or JFK?
Weird. None of my family know who he is. We now know who he is and understand that he does what he does to make money.

Absolutely horrible what has happened, and I’d hate to see it over here. But, your country, you have to accept this when you allow things that lead to this.
 

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