The Piccadilly Gardens Problem - new development proposal (P32)

mexico1970 said:
Some people don't blame the thieving drug ridded violent alkies but blame the people videoing them, like Schrodinger's Cat the vermin would disappear if nobody watched them :)
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I always travel by train on my trips into Manchester, turn left out of the station and over the footbridge and completely avoid Piccadilly Gardens
 
heslops barnet said:
I always travel by train on my trips into Manchester, turn left out of the station and over the footbridge and completely avoid Piccadilly Gardens
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I go right round the back of the train station and carry on over the car park. I always avoid druggie and tooth averse central like you mate.
 
Bill Walker said:
It's all down to who's in charge.

Didn't Mayor Giuliani introduce a zero tolerance policy ?
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He did. He believed in the "broken windows theory" i.e., if even small crimes are tolerated, it spreads to more serious crimes. Things like fare dodging and petty vandalism, if unpunished, give criminals the confidence to commit more serious crimes.
 
OnlyOneUweRosler said:
He did. He believed in the "broken windows theory" i.e., if even small crimes are tolerated, it spreads to more serious crimes. Things like fare dodging and petty vandalism, if unpunished, give criminals the confidence to commit more serious crimes.
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There’s definitely a “monkey see, monkey do” aspect to petty crimes. People see others getting away with (say) fare dodging and copy them - so the numbers grow. All it takes is challenge and low level enforcement and numbers come down pretty quickly. Just watching it and doing nothing about it tells people “its okay go ahead, we don’t care” Police openly not bothering with shoplifting means that scumbags take it as licence to do it. You see it everywhere.
 
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The fat woman that had a season ticket sat in the kids play area looking out for charlie veitch approaching and raising the alarm..unfortunately got nicked...with nickers full of drugs, not a bad trick.

*the veitch kid was on it from the off..
 
Honestly I've just watched a YouTube video by billy Moore posted today and what the hell is going on round there,
It's a zoo full of the dregs of society.
How can those in power around here just let this happen in the city centre.
It needs ringing fencing off.
Not a police officer in sight while school girls are watching grown adults openly take drugs.
Sad to see.
 
Half the problem is because of V and the band of fellow Auditeers who magnify the problem.
Idiots and associated fools turn up, just to get themselves on YouTube.
They do nothing but earn a crust, off the backs of idiots, kids and addicts.
 
Fat Larrys Band said:
Half the problem is because of V and the band of fellow Auditeers who magnify the problem.
Idiots and associated fools turn up, just to get themselves on YouTube.
They do nothing but earn a crust, off the backs of idiots, kids and addicts.
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And Burnham Keeps Silent whilst it all carries on
He's supposed to be in charge
 
Winchester said:
And Burnham Keeps Silent whilst it all carries on
He's supposed to be in charge
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He could rock up to the gardens take a shit right in the middle of the gardens whilst telling police to fuck off and the vote for the rosette bunch would still vote the scouse **** in.

Like he has to give a flying fuck.
 
mexico1970 said:
He could rock up to the gardens take a shit right in the middle of the gardens whilst telling police to fuck off and the vote for the rosette bunch would still vote the scouse **** in.

Like he has to give a flying fuck.
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He should do
L8ke most politicians he makes speeches that's all
 
Piccadilly Gardens are the responsibility of Manchester City Council. Burnham is the Mayor of the Greater Manchester Combined Authority. Blaming him for the Gardens is like blaming Jim Ratcliffe for City not having a right back. Or Khaldoon for the leaking roof at Old Toilet.

If you want to criticise Burnham, choose something for which he is responsible, such as the Bee Network. If you want to moan about the Gardens, blame the Councillors of Manchester City Council. Their Leader is someone called Bev Craig.
 
BrianW said:
Piccadilly Gardens are the responsibility of Manchester City Council. Burnham is the Mayor of the Greater Manchester Combined Authority. Blaming him for the Gardens is like blaming Jim Ratcliffe for City not having a right back. Or Khaldoon for the leaking roof at Old Toilet.

If you want to criticise Burnham, choose something for which he is responsible, such as the Bee Network. If you want to moan about the Gardens, blame the Councillors of Manchester City Council. Their Leader is someone called Bev Craig.
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So what is the fucking point of having him then?
 
BrianW said:
Piccadilly Gardens are the responsibility of Manchester City Council. Burnham is the Mayor of the Greater Manchester Combined Authority. Blaming him for the Gardens is like blaming Jim Ratcliffe for City not having a right back. Or Khaldoon for the leaking roof at Old Toilet.

If you want to criticise Burnham, choose something for which he is responsible, such as the Bee Network. If you want to moan about the Gardens, blame the Councillors of Manchester City Council. Their Leader is someone called Bev Craig.
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You just know politicians are self serving runts who talk shit when you read bilge like this. Under her watch the gardens are far from female safe or child safe or in fact safe for anyone at all.

She says she lives in Manchester because it has a gay village, no wonder she seems to not give a fuck about the other areas of Manchester.

She's an Irish rag.
Supported Sinn Fein
Definitely a DEI pick

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www.theguardian.com

Manchester city council’s new leader vows to prioritise women’s safety

Bev Craig says too much urban planning has been ‘male-led’, making public spaces feel less safe
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Bev Craig says too much urban planning has been ‘male-led’, making public spaces feel less safe
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BrianW said:
Piccadilly Gardens are the responsibility of Manchester City Council. Burnham is the Mayor of the Greater Manchester Combined Authority. Blaming him for the Gardens is like blaming Jim Ratcliffe for City not having a right back. Or Khaldoon for the leaking roof at Old Toilet.

If you want to criticise Burnham, choose something for which he is responsible, such as the Bee Network. If you want to moan about the Gardens, blame the Councillors of Manchester City Council. Their Leader is someone called Bev Craig.
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So what your saying is it's not the scousers fault, Okey dokey.
It's a absolute disgrace what's going on there,I don't venture down there much these days but my eldest daughter goes in the city centre often and after watching some of these videos I'll tell you now she won't be going again,
And I don't care if she's 22
 
mexico1970 said:
You just know politicians are self serving runts who talk shit when you read bilge like this. Under her watch the gardens are far from female safe or child safe or in fact safe for anyone at all.

She says she lives in Manchester because it has a gay village, no wonder she seems to not give a fuck about the other areas of Manchester.

She's an Irish rag.
Supported Sinn Fein
Definitely a DEI pick

8192.jpg


www.theguardian.com

Manchester city council’s new leader vows to prioritise women’s safety

Bev Craig says too much urban planning has been ‘male-led’, making public spaces feel less safe
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Chilling

"Craig, who at 36 is almost half Leese’s age, said there had been “a generational shift in politics more broadly, about recognising that actually, people experience the city differently and we need to be open to those experiences.”

Leese, a former youth worker from Nottinghamshire, is retiring after 25 years in the top job, saying he wants to spend more time with his grandchildren. He was instrumental in the city’s rebirth after the IRA bomb in 1996 and went on to play a key role in Greater Manchester’s push for devolution.

Craig is also an adopted Mancunian. She dreamed of moving to Manchester from Northern Ireland after secretly watching Russell T Davies’s Queer As Folk, set in Manchester’s Gay Village, in her bedroom with the sound down.

Football also drew her to Manchester: while Leese supports City, she is a big United fan.


She came out as a lesbian aged 14 after joining an LGBT youth group. Her politics began to form there when she realised “the only political party at the time that would even speak to us was Sinn Féin”.

Craig joined the Labour party in 2009 while working for Blackburn council as an equalities and inclusion policy officer and was first elected to Manchester city council in 2013."
 
johnny crossan said:
Chilling

"Craig, who at 36 is almost half Leese’s age, said there had been “a generational shift in politics more broadly, about recognising that actually, people experience the city differently and we need to be open to those experiences.”

Leese, a former youth worker from Nottinghamshire, is retiring after 25 years in the top job, saying he wants to spend more time with his grandchildren. He was instrumental in the city’s rebirth after the IRA bomb in 1996 and went on to play a key role in Greater Manchester’s push for devolution.

Craig is also an adopted Mancunian. She dreamed of moving to Manchester from Northern Ireland after secretly watching Russell T Davies’s Queer As Folk, set in Manchester’s Gay Village, in her bedroom with the sound down.

Football also drew her to Manchester: while Leese supports City, she is a big United fan.


She came out as a lesbian aged 14 after joining an LGBT youth group. Her politics began to form there when she realised “the only political party at the time that would even speak to us was Sinn Féin”.

Craig joined the Labour party in 2009 while working for Blackburn council as an equalities and inclusion policy officer and was first elected to Manchester city council in 2013."
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It's a bit like when Burnham said he would solve homelessness and did nothing/nada/zilch, this drone couldn't care less about anyone's safety she's allowing that circus to continue in Piccadilly gardens unabated.
 
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