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Everything to do with them.

It’s their job to put a structure in place which ultimately means they have the best chance of winning on the pitch.
They can't even put a structure in place that ultimately means their fans in the Stretford End don't get wet when it rains .
 
We have team meetings every Monday, we chat work and the week ahead but also have a chat about the weekend. I love winding up the blinkered Red when they have a bad result. Today he was moaning about Almorin being under pressure yet teams like Villa, Newcastle & Forest etc.. are not. He also thinks that they are playing well compared to last year. He then whinged about the none sending off and how it was unfair on "Bruno" as he had to wait ages for the pen.

So I pointed out the pressure comes from the entitled fans and the ex-utd players in the media that hark back to a time that was completely out of the norm for them (Fergie years) and that they should accept that the way they have been since Slur Alex has left is the norm
I also pointed out that the teams he mentioned did not spend over £200 million again this summer so teh expectations are rightly less.
Re them playing better, I pointed out their wins - Burnley and against 10 men Chelsea (who took all of their attacking players off after the sending off) and that they have not actually beaten anyone when playing 11 other than Burnley.
For the Pen I just said its the same for the keeper, surely? To which he had no reply.

They really are delusional
 
They have taken out billions which could have been spent on the club itself. In addition it’s not just investing in transfers it’s getting the infrastructure correct which allows that money to be properly invested. Look how our own club operates. It’s worlds apart.

With very few exceptions the influence of the Manager over results is widely overestimated.
Even with the money they have taken out, they could have still invested in infrastructure but they preferred to waste it on wages & transfer fees. Their fan base wouldn't be mentioning the Glazers if they were winning the major trophies. Look at the dippers fan base who have gone very quiet about wanting FSG out now that Liverpool have won the premier league & thrown money at players
 
Brentford just hammered them, Sunderland and Leeds aren't going down, Forest will be above them with ease. It's 3 out of 4 Burnley, Wolves, West Ham and United and I wouldn't bet on any of them to stay up. United could also get a points deduction due to PSR as well and that will relegate them if that was to happen
So any team that beats them is going to finish above them? Spurs and brighton going to finish above us then? Leeds have a single point more than United and you claim they're not going down. Why? Sunderland have had a remarkable start, given themselves a huge chance but they'll still be aiming for 4th bottom as plenty of promoted teams have had good starts then crashed.

Its very clear your view is tinted by heavy bias, United aren't in that category of teams however much we would like them to be.

No idea why you think they are facing a points deduction, there's no indication they have breached any PSR rules.

What is it that makes you so sure there are going to be three teams below them come the end of the season.
The evidence is they've been on the decline year on year, finishing 15th last season with zero signs of a turn around.
What I'm saying is, I wouldn't be as sure as you are.
They finished 15th last season but they finished 17 points above the relegation zone, which is almost 70% of 18th placed leicesters entire points tally for the season. They were closer to 9th than being relegated. I dont think some have really fully grasped just how big of a divide has been created between the relegated teams and those hovering above it
 
Brentford just hammered them, Sunderland and Leeds aren't going down, Forest will be above them with ease. It's 3 out of 4 Burnley, Wolves, West Ham and United and I wouldn't bet on any of them to stay up. United could also get a points deduction due to PSR as well and that will relegate them if that was to happen
Do you think the "establishment" will let them go down,not so sure, but I live in hope.
 
We have team meetings every Monday, we chat work and the week ahead but also have a chat about the weekend. I love winding up the blinkered Red when they have a bad result. Today he was moaning about Almorin being under pressure yet teams like Villa, Newcastle & Forest etc.. are not. He also thinks that they are playing well compared to last year. He then whinged about the none sending off and how it was unfair on "Bruno" as he had to wait ages for the pen.

So I pointed out the pressure comes from the entitled fans and the ex-utd players in the media that hark back to a time that was completely out of the norm for them (Fergie years) and that they should accept that the way they have been since Slur Alex has left is the norm
I also pointed out that the teams he mentioned did not spend over £200 million again this summer so teh expectations are rightly less.
Re them playing better, I pointed out their wins - Burnley and against 10 men Chelsea (who took all of their attacking players off after the sending off) and that they have not actually beaten anyone when playing 11 other than Burnley.
For the Pen I just said its the same for the keeper, surely? To which he had no reply.

They really are delusional
What pisses me off is the acceptance of utd getting penalties.
It seems the talking point is why some are missed and not them getting more penalties than everyone else in the first place
 
No. Burnley, wolves, west ham are all currently below them and are worse. Then probably Sunderland, leeds, Brentford too and possibly even forest will all be expected to be below United.

United will be around the upper lower half of the table like last year but miles away from any genuine danger of relegation.
Sorry mate on current form and by that I mean last 18 months I see only wolves and maybe West Ham worse than them currently
Obviously things could change as we’re only in September but it can change both ways
West Ham new manager bounce,that fucker at wolves on borrowed time so could be a bounce there aswell, blue tints off the four teams you mention look better than the rags when I’ve watched em. The scum are fucking useless nobody fears them anymore infact they raise their game against em.
I’ve not seen a single improvement from the rags in the last two seasons despite the money spent and I see nothing that tells me they’ll improve. The latest front three have already sunk to the United curse, their defence is in tatters with shaw McGuire and dalot still at the heart of a defence that’s leaks goals for fun.
Just can’t see where the fuck they go from here maybe waistcoat will bring a bit of stability, I see potters being mentioned
The fuckers done fuckall since he left Brighton and then there’s xavi who’s another die hard Utd fan who’s been mentioned.
He’s in for a fucking shock if he end up there.
If last season is replicated it’ll only take one of the bottom 3 going on a decent run and the scum will be in trouble.
 
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It would be the ultimate though… scraping 17th , then getting relegated due their own not fit for purpose rules.
100% would never happen
The powers that be would find some fucking loophole far too much money at stake
It’s the pl brand you see
 
Was trying to convince a red, decent bloke by all accounts, that it goes far deeper than folk realise. There is no way that the 7 or 8 managers and all the players they've had in last 12 or so years since fergie have all been naturally shite, it's almost an impossible coincidence. There are strange happenings afoot in the concrete corridors......and long may it jolly well continue
Almost like there is a huge spectre who looms over any of the following managers.

I just read Duncan Hamiltons book on Brian Clough (good read by the way) and Clough knew he couldn’t go back to the club, and he cared for the club to much to do anything to harm it. Ferguson is, and always has been, about himself.
 
They have taken out billions which could have been spent on the club itself. In addition it’s not just investing in transfers it’s getting the infrastructure correct which allows that money to be properly invested. Look how our own club operates. It’s worlds apart.

With very few exceptions the influence of the Manager over results is widely overestimated.

So any team that beats them is going to finish above them? Spurs and brighton going to finish above us then? Leeds have a single point more than United and you claim they're not going down. Why? Sunderland have had a remarkable start, given themselves a huge chance but they'll still be aiming for 4th bottom as plenty of promoted teams have had good starts then crashed.

Its very clear your view is tinted by heavy bias, United aren't in that category of teams however much we would like them to be.

No idea why you think they are facing a points deduction, there's no indication they have breached any PSR rules.


They finished 15th last season but they finished 17 points above the relegation zone, which is almost 70% of 18th placed leicesters entire points tally for the season. They were closer to 9th than being relegated. I dont think some have really fully grasped just how big of a divide has been created between the relegated teams and those hovering above it
I wouldn't disagree with you but I think your under estimating their decline.
 
united seem to get worse with each new manager, maybe in a couple more managers they will be bad enough to get relegated.
 
Yes, I would agree with that.

The rags will have a global audience because of their historical success, as you rightly mention.

When a club is repeatedly branded as one of the biggest in the world it will always attract followers.

Like you, I have often been left scratching my head wondering how they can attract so many people at the swamp. Especially, when you consider the dross they've been serving up over the past decade.

Then it dawned on me.... thousands of tourists go to see Buckingham Palace every week, yet they never get to see the queen (king).

Thousands of tourists go to see Loch Ness and yet they never get to see the Loch Ness Monster.

The swamp is essentially
 
I’ve not seen a single improvement from the rags in the last two seasons despite the money spent and I see nothing that tells me they’ll improve.
Agreed. There has been no improvement whatsoever despite the money spent, but being the media favourites that they've always been you won't hear it mentioned. Compare it with how we are treated: last season, as we all know too well, wasn't the best we've had. But we were not alone in that, many other teams just couldn't get their act together. But it was us, day after day, that was ripped to pieces in the tabloids (Has Pep lost the dressing room? Was super Kev overrated? Is it time for Foden to move on? etc etc).

I've been watching that series, 'The Hack' on ITV 3, and it shows just how powerful the media in this country are -despite the new regulations coming in following the long overdue demise of Murdoch's News of the World. The newspapers in this country (mostly tabloids) can convince people that black is white and vice-versa, so it's not going to be too difficult to persuade people that City are the demonic forces behind the rag's fall from grace, and that we should be punished accordingly for the appalling way we have let our 'neighbours' sink to their lowly position.
 

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