I don't want to derail the thread, but Savinho shouldn't even be a city playerDoku has a history of muscular injuries and has rarely played 3 games a week for us. Rodri is coming back from a long term injury. Stones is made of glass. Tell me why taking those three off for Savinho, Nico and Nunes is baffling?
No to be fair with the injuries it’s not good enough. First choice, which if everyone’s fit, I’d say is Khusanov, Dias, Gvardiol and Ait Nouri is good enough. Problem is getting our best 11 out on the pitch regularly is easier said than done these days. Not sure if it’s the training or the players but the level of injuries has definitely gone up the last 2/3 yearsI guess speed is subjective to a point, I’ve never watched ait nouri and thought there’s a defender with pace and great powers of recovery.
I see player who’s nice on the ball in tight areas, who is regularly caught of position, and often struggles to recover.
Not slow, but not quick. Anyway he didn’t play, so it’s a mute point really.
The defence isn’t great, it really isn’t. CB’s at RB, CM at RB or LB, it’s not good enough.it won’t win you trophies.
How many fouls did he give against us for handing off player. Spanish officials are a joke. Not sure about your last remark.Turd referee.. not a pen at all. Face hits foot, not foot hits face!
Haaland awesome.
Gvardiol with a fucking mare.. and if we play Trafford, he saves Monaco's first goal!!!
I haven’t said it wasn’t a pen. I guess you are replying to the wrong post.You can’t raise your foot that high whether it’s chest or head height. If you do and you make contact it’s a penalty.
We can moan about it but the fact is it’s always going to be given and we’ve tossed away the win.
That's how I saw it. Rodri was done in.
I really don’t think that’s fair to Monaco. Personally, I was very impressed with their pressing and shape without the ball. Their press had us rattled that whole second half.Meanwhile we’ve got a player like Haaland up front, in the form of his life, and we can’t create a single chance for him the second half against a pub team.
Spanish refs don’t like Catalonian pepHow many fouls did he give against us for handing off player. Spanish officials are a joke.
To be fair it’s been that way for god knows how long. Part of me doesn’t blame the players because unless they make a meal of it there’s no guarantee these incompetent refs will give it.Unfortunately referees are not refereeing but just give decisions to cheating rather than having the courage to recognise it for what it is and punishing it.
It is stupid and weak.
It is ultimately the players we had before Silva, Toure, KDB, Gundogan, Fernandinho who provided us great control so that we could play midfielders are LB/Rb and still get away with it . Now Pep has lost the players so every weaknes is being exposedI guess speed is subjective to a point, I’ve never watched ait nouri and thought there’s a defender with pace and great powers of recovery.
I see player who’s nice on the ball in tight areas, who is regularly caught of position, and often struggles to recover.
Not slow, but not quick. Anyway he didn’t play, so it’s a mute point really.
The defence isn’t great, it really isn’t. CB’s at RB, CM at RB or LB, it’s not good enough.it won’t win you trophies.
I'm not sure that an interview with a clearly ticked-off player - who did little wrong himself - is evidence of that, at all.The players and Pep will know where we’ve gone wrong tonight and that’s evidenced by Haalands interview
Improved us from 2-1 to 2-2.
Anymore stats that "improved" the scoreline?
Yeah I think we both just seem to apportion the blame differently, I really don’t think it’s Pep’s fault tonight as much as yourself and a few others. Which is fair enough.I don't get it with the terrible /corrupt ref accusations. I'm sure we've had far worse many times.
A high boot is a free. If it was the attacker it'd definitely be a free out. So as it was our player defending then a penalty seems appropriate.
The ref gave them a lot but we were silly many times too with flailing arms to faces. Again we aren't averse to go down easy either.
I'd put most of this on Pep's tactics. The players didn't play badly but there wasn't enough desire and imo that is up to the manager to make happen.
Our season was always going to depend on whether Pep found a new approach. Some things seem better but some just the same.
I just hope that Pep at least is trying to fix the tactics and not just putting it down to the players eventually improving themselves.
And defensively he's a liability, at least Doku has improved that side of his game, though I don't especially rate either.I don't want to derail the thread, but Savinho shouldn't even be a city player
He's nowhere near good enough
And if anyone wants to defend him, all I ask is tell me a couple of games he's played really well in
I work with Americans mate so I’m used it ;)Fair enough. I'm unapologetically American in that regard. I use both words interchangeably unfortunately:p
Yeah, not sure who he’s been watching for the last couple of years. Great player but pace is certainly something he lacksGvardiol's lack of pace was consistently exposed when he played full-back