Reform 2025 Limited new name same business

And how did you make the leap from me how pointing out that most american politicians are bought off by AIPAC (The "American Israel Public Affairs Committee"), something that they actually brag about themselves on their own website as "Lobbying for Pro-Israel Policies" - AIPAC, to being "all a jewish conspiracy theory"?

Or if not that then how does me pointing out that reform flag shaggers aren't happy with richard tice kissing the wall (as many american politicians bribed by israel have already done and that this has become symbolic of corrupt politicians putting a foreign countries interests before their own (aka treason)) as "all a jewish conspiracy theory"?

Hmm, let’s have a think.

Perhaps is was the bit where you said that ‘they are already showing their hand and that Israel runs them’. Swiftly followed by the reference to US politicians - ‘it shows how their politicians are run by Israel’.

Juvenile, bigoted horseshit.
 
Sounds about right for your average reform supporter, more arsed about doing the otherside over than actually benefitting the country in a positive way. What happens if reform doesn't get in power will you be ok?

I do feel like I’m in a bizarre social experiment at the minute where a lot of people seem to have blurred the online world with reality and have completely forgotten that the latter comes with actual consequences.
 
Some interesting polling.

A significant majority of non-Reform voters think Reform's policies, and their voters, are racist. Perhaps, not surprisingly, a very high number of Reform voters don't agree.

Given where we are at the moment, I doubt Reform are going to be persuading people that they aren't racist.

 
And up here in County Durham, reform UK are holding a rally in Crook on Saturday 12.30 - 14.30
Think I might watch the Leeds, spurs games instead of attending
 
Some interesting polling.

A significant majority of non-Reform voters think Reform's policies, and their voters, are racist. Perhaps, not surprisingly, a very high number of Reform voters don't agree.

Given where we are at the moment, I doubt Reform are going to be persuading people that they aren't racist.



And they’ll be loving it.

By the time we get to the next election, there’s a very big chance that we’ll have properly turned into America and even more entrenched in two party politics, with culture war policies being the key differentiators and arguments.
 
Haha, it's the hope that kills ya, both you and I know Reform will be in power in the not to distant future and I'm lovin seeing all the haters shitting it.
You will regret voting for them after they gain power, as much as the rest of us will

You aren't paying attention to what they are about. A Party formed by millionaires for the benefit of millionires, backed up with 97% of their funding coming from millionaires. Their chief donor is an advocate of free market policies, with zero constraints like employment, consumer and environmental legislation currently impeding their hunger for wealth.

Don't kid yourself they have your best interests at heart. They dont care about anyone or anything other than themselves, and they are seriously taking the piss out of you. You just haven't noticed it.

They are laughing thier heads off about how easily they have managed to gain so much support from ordinary people, and are ecstatic about just how easy it has been to dupe so many into supporting them with their trojan horse of migrants being the root cause of their struggles. Human rights? Nah, we dont need them because we can't treat foreigners like shit can we? Well, no, we can't, but it's not migrants thay are targeting. It's you and me.

They can't slash the welfare bill by £240B a year unless it's you and me they have in their sights.

You need some help with chronic mental health problems? Sorry buddy, you're just having a bad day. Get over it and get back to work.

Reform : I don't want to pay tax to support your malingering nonesense.

An American style heathcare system with insurance, and a basic NHS for those that can't afford it.That sounds great, until you dig a little deeper and understand there would be no restorative plastic surgery for burns victims, or prosthetic limb provision for amputees.

Reform : Why should I pay tax for that. You can hop to the shops if you've lost a leg. There's nowt wrong with your good one.

When did people with money advocate and promote progressive social legislation like the NHS, pensions, food standards, employment protections, and so on? Well, they never have, and reform MP's have shown their true colours in this parliament by voting against the rent reform and employment protection bills. There isn't much support for average folks struggling to get by on that score from the so called party of the people, is there?

I'm part of the first generation in this nations history to live their entire lives with the benefits of the welfare state, which I'm sure you have as well, but make no mistake, if reform get in, we will be the only generation in this contries history to have enjoyed the benefits it has given us.

Support reform and vote for them if you want to, but be under no illusion you will be nothing but a turkey voting effectively for Christmas, and they will be in convulsions of laughter for you supporting it.
 
You will regret voting for them after they gain power, as much as the rest of us will

You aren't paying attention to what they are about. A Party formed by millionaires for the benefit of millionires, backed up with 97% of their funding coming from millionaires. Their chief donor is an advocate of free market policies, with zero constraints like employment, consumer and environmental legislation currently impeding their hunger for wealth.

Don't kid yourself they have your best interests at heart. They dont care about anyone or anything other than themselves, and they are seriously taking the piss out of you. You just haven't noticed it.

They are laughing thier heads off about how easily they have managed to gain so much support from ordinary people, and are ecstatic about just how easy it has been to dupe so many into supporting them with their trojan horse of migrants being the root cause of their struggles. Human rights? Nah, we dont need them because we can't treat foreigners like shit can we? Well, no, we can't, but it's not migrants thay are targeting. It's you and me.

They can't slash the welfare bill by £240B a year unless it's you and me they have in their sights.

You need some help with chronic mental health problems? Sorry buddy, you're just having a bad day. Get over it and get back to work.

Reform : I don't want to pay tax to support your malingering nonesense.

An American style heathcare system with insurance, and a basic NHS for those that can't afford it.That sounds great, until you dig a little deeper and understand there would be no restorative plastic surgery for burns victims, or prosthetic limb provision for amputees.

Reform : Why should I pay tax for that. You can hop to the shops if you've lost a leg. There's nowt wrong with your good one.

When did people with money advocate and promote progressive social legislation like the NHS, pensions, food standards, employment protections, and so on? Well, they never have, and reform MP's have shown their true colours in this parliament by voting against the rent reform and employment protection bills. There isn't much support for average folks struggling to get by on that score from the so called party of the people, is there?

I'm part of the first generation in this nations history to live their entire lives with the benefits of the welfare state, which I'm sure you have as well, but make no mistake, if reform get in, we will be the only generation in this contries history to have enjoyed the benefits it has given us.

Support reform and vote for them if you want to, but be under no illusion you will be nothing but a turkey voting effectively for Christmas, and they will be in convulsions of laughter for you supporting it.
What would they be? The tax I’ve paid over the last 12 months alone is eye watering, and I’m still forced to pay for a dentist if I want a check up as there’s no NHS taking on. Yet the work shy and those who shouldn’t be here continue to get the handouts.

The whole system needs a shake up, and it’s coming.
 
You will regret voting for them after they gain power, as much as the rest of us will

You aren't paying attention to what they are about. A Party formed by millionaires for the benefit of millionires, backed up with 97% of their funding coming from millionaires. Their chief donor is an advocate of free market policies, with zero constraints like employment, consumer and environmental legislation currently impeding their hunger for wealth.

Don't kid yourself they have your best interests at heart. They dont care about anyone or anything other than themselves, and they are seriously taking the piss out of you. You just haven't noticed it.

They are laughing thier heads off about how easily they have managed to gain so much support from ordinary people, and are ecstatic about just how easy it has been to dupe so many into supporting them with their trojan horse of migrants being the root cause of their struggles. Human rights? Nah, we dont need them because we can't treat foreigners like shit can we? Well, no, we can't, but it's not migrants thay are targeting. It's you and me.

They can't slash the welfare bill by £240B a year unless it's you and me they have in their sights.

You need some help with chronic mental health problems? Sorry buddy, you're just having a bad day. Get over it and get back to work.

Reform : I don't want to pay tax to support your malingering nonesense.

An American style heathcare system with insurance, and a basic NHS for those that can't afford it.That sounds great, until you dig a little deeper and understand there would be no restorative plastic surgery for burns victims, or prosthetic limb provision for amputees.

Reform : Why should I pay tax for that. You can hop to the shops if you've lost a leg. There's nowt wrong with your good one.

When did people with money advocate and promote progressive social legislation like the NHS, pensions, food standards, employment protections, and so on? Well, they never have, and reform MP's have shown their true colours in this parliament by voting against the rent reform and employment protection bills. There isn't much support for average folks struggling to get by on that score from the so called party of the people, is there?

I'm part of the first generation in this nations history to live their entire lives with the benefits of the welfare state, which I'm sure you have as well, but make no mistake, if reform get in, we will be the only generation in this contries history to have enjoyed the benefits it has given us.

Support reform and vote for them if you want to, but be under no illusion you will be nothing but a turkey voting effectively for Christmas, and they will be in convulsions of laughter for you supporting it.
Great post
 
There was a black woman on the news yesterday and I was gobsmacked about what she was saying. She said she'd voted Labour but wouldn't again because she wasn't any better off, as if they could just turn the shit show around in a year and cut taxes!! Then said she'd vote Reform as 'Farage was a man of the people with the best interests of the working man'!!!
When the reporter pointed out the racist elements and the fact she could be targeted she said 'No I'll be all right I'm second generation and me and my family have always worked' as NPBlue just pointed out, it's turkeys voting for Christmas. It's scary that they can brainwash someone into voting for them that would be an obvious target.
 
There was a black woman on the news yesterday and I was gobsmacked about what she was saying. She said she'd voted Labour but wouldn't again because she wasn't any better off, as if they could just turn the shit show around in a year and cut taxes!! Then said she'd vote Reform as 'Farage was a man of the people with the best interests of the working man'!!!
When the reporter pointed out the racist elements and the fact she could be targeted she said 'No I'll be all right I'm second generation and me and my family have always worked' as NPBlue just pointed out, it's turkeys voting for Christmas. It's scary that they can brainwash someone into voting for them that would be an obvious target.
She ominously sounds like big chunks of America justifying voting for Trump.
 
What would they be? The tax I’ve paid over the last 12 months alone is eye watering, and I’m still forced to pay for a dentist if I want a check up as there’s no NHS taking on. Yet the work shy and those who shouldn’t be here continue to get the handouts.

The whole system needs a shake up, and it’s coming.
If you think Reform are going to sort out the issue of NHS dentists not taking patients on then I've got a bridge to sell you. More than likely they'll make it worse. Oh, and don't be surprised if they have you paying for your GP appointments too.

The system may well need shaking up but Reform will only shake it up in a bad way.
 
You will regret voting for them after they gain power, as much as the rest of us will

You aren't paying attention to what they are about. A Party formed by millionaires for the benefit of millionires, backed up with 97% of their funding coming from millionaires. Their chief donor is an advocate of free market policies, with zero constraints like employment, consumer and environmental legislation currently impeding their hunger for wealth.

Don't kid yourself they have your best interests at heart. They dont care about anyone or anything other than themselves, and they are seriously taking the piss out of you. You just haven't noticed it.

They are laughing thier heads off about how easily they have managed to gain so much support from ordinary people, and are ecstatic about just how easy it has been to dupe so many into supporting them with their trojan horse of migrants being the root cause of their struggles. Human rights? Nah, we dont need them because we can't treat foreigners like shit can we? Well, no, we can't, but it's not migrants thay are targeting. It's you and me.

They can't slash the welfare bill by £240B a year unless it's you and me they have in their sights.

You need some help with chronic mental health problems? Sorry buddy, you're just having a bad day. Get over it and get back to work.

Reform : I don't want to pay tax to support your malingering nonesense.

An American style heathcare system with insurance, and a basic NHS for those that can't afford it.That sounds great, until you dig a little deeper and understand there would be no restorative plastic surgery for burns victims, or prosthetic limb provision for amputees.

Reform : Why should I pay tax for that. You can hop to the shops if you've lost a leg. There's nowt wrong with your good one.

When did people with money advocate and promote progressive social legislation like the NHS, pensions, food standards, employment protections, and so on? Well, they never have, and reform MP's have shown their true colours in this parliament by voting against the rent reform and employment protection bills. There isn't much support for average folks struggling to get by on that score from the so called party of the people, is there?

I'm part of the first generation in this nations history to live their entire lives with the benefits of the welfare state, which I'm sure you have as well, but make no mistake, if reform get in, we will be the only generation in this contries history to have enjoyed the benefits it has given us.

Support reform and vote for them if you want to, but be under no illusion you will be nothing but a turkey voting effectively for Christmas, and they will be in convulsions of laughter for you supporting it.
Absolutely spot on. Well said.
 
What would they be? The tax I’ve paid over the last 12 months alone is eye watering, and I’m still forced to pay for a dentist if I want a check up as there’s no NHS taking on. Yet the work shy and those who shouldn’t be here continue to get the handouts.

The whole system needs a shake up, and it’s coming.
Why is the tax on you higher over the last 12 months. Nothing has changed to the average worker. Rates and thresholds are exactly the same as they previously were.

Yes, have a go at the government, but it sounds as if your biggest gripe is with your fellow (work shy) citizens. don't forget the biggest welfare is for the state pension, followed by IN WORK benefits. Out of work benefits only makes up about 4% of the total bill and funnily enough 4% is about the proportion of immigrants "who shouldn't be here".
 
What would they be? The tax I’ve paid over the last 12 months alone is eye watering, and I’m still forced to pay for a dentist if I want a check up as there’s no NHS taking on. Yet the work shy and those who shouldn’t be here continue to get the handouts.

The whole system needs a shake up, and it’s coming.
Hahahaha. They want to privatise the nhs you numpty. One thing that all this reform bollocks has shown me is that a large portion of the population are fucking idiots.
 

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