Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

Cheap populist. Keep consuming the fake, delusional news from the side that murdered, raped, burned, and kidnapped children, women, men, and the elderly. If you’re on their side, something is seriously wrong with you. In a few years, when radical Islam destroys every decent part of your country, you’ll finally realize how foolish you were for supporting the wrong side.
How did you get your username, mate?
 
I haven’t joined this discussion since that cursed day of October 7. I’ve been a member of this forum for many years and wanted to focus only on football. Today, after almost two years, I returned to the conversation. I didn’t expect anything different but it still hurts me deeply how many people here feed on the lies of pathetic terrorists.

There is no hunger in Gaza, that lie has been debunked countless times and was spread from the start as psychological warfare to stop the war. The skinny children you see suffer from genetic illnesses, and I’m not even talking about the number of AI-generated fake images. Israel is bringing in hundreds of trucks every day with food, fuel, hygiene products, and everything else the people in Gaza need. Check the facts; don’t believe everything you read.

Since the beginning of the war, the food Israel has brought into Gaza is equivalent to 3,000 calories per person per day - more than people eat daily in countries not at war. Do you know what is true? Hamas seizes most of the goods that enter for free, shoots people in cold blood when they try to take food, and then sells it at astronomical prices to pay its terrorists’ salaries. Hamas is the one who started this war -murder, rape, burning people alive, beheading, and kidnapping more than 1,400 people in a single day during a Jewish holiday. Hamas still holds about 50 hostages; these people are alive, kept in tunnels, starving and chained. Check me on this.

For two years Hamas has refused to make a deal to stop the war even though Israel agreed to countless proposals to end the war on condition that the hostages would be released and Hamas would give up its weapons. Hamas won’t agree. They operate from schools, mosques, hospitals, and populated civilian areas intentionally, using the people there as human shields. I can’t understand how you don’t see this.

How can you choose the side of extremist Islam that wants to kill all Jews and you in Europe are next? How can you not see that extremist Islam is expanding across Europe and threatening every one of you? Don’t believe me? Wait a few years and you’ll see how big a mistake you made.

I have nothing against Muslims. I have many Muslim friends. Over 2.5 million Arab citizens live in Israel and we live side by side. I’m talking about extremist Islamists who want to live by Sharia law and consider anyone who isn’t Muslim an infidel who must be killed. You have no idea how wrong you are: instead of pressuring Hamas to surrender, you are helping them, even recognizing a Palestinian state. Gaza was an independent Palestinian territory; Israel left it twenty years ago and gave it self-rule. Instead of improving people’s lives - building, creating better living conditions, turning it into the Riviera of the Middle East with technology, industry and commerce - they repeatedly chose terror.

We’ve been hit with tens of thousands of rockets over the last twenty years, thousands of people killed and the peak was October 7: 1,200 killed in one day and 250 kidnapped. Look at who Hamas’s leaders are and how much money they have. They live lavish lives in seven-star hotels -they are billionaires, while their people are desperately poor. Every dollar of aid to Gaza and the Palestinians over the past twenty years either ended up in hamas leaders private pockets or was used to build terror infrastructure: thousands of kilometers of tunnels, rockets, and disguises. You simply don’t know what you’re talking about.

Remember my post in a few years when terror attacks won’t be only in synagogues like today but also in churches, restaurants, bars and on the streets. If Hamas had surrendered, this war would have ended long ago. Now imagine thousands of terrorists storming London or Manchester in one day and brutally murdering 1,200 innocent people, burning them alive, beheading them, raping women. Wouldn’t you expect your country to wipe them out to ash? Or would you agree to give them a state in the middle of England as a prize?
 
Cheap populist. Keep consuming the fake, delusional news from the side that murdered, raped, burned, and kidnapped children, women, men, and the elderly. If you’re on their side, something is seriously wrong with you. In a few years, when radical Islam destroys every decent part of your country, you’ll finally realize how foolish you were for supporting the wrong side.
Amazing how you can kill a load of people with pagers yet now they choose to use a scorched earth policy and genocide, something wrong with you if you think starving and bombing to death thousands of children will bring the innocent back from October 7th. It’s now a bloodlust, it’s not about getting justice, Bibi doesnt give a fuck about peace because he knows if Hamas completely agreed to the 20 point plan there wpuld be elections straight after and him and his right wing cunts woukd be out of office. A despot wants only one thing and that’s to hold onto power even if it means killing his own people and wiping out another.
If you think it’s all AI why don’t your government let reporters around the world in, if they aren’t starving why aren’t you letting the flotilla in, do you think the UN is lying, do you everyone is lying but Israel? A fucking disgrace and you will be judged forever on this just like the Nazis you hated you have become them. They are entitled to that land just as much as you by the way.
 
Cheap populist. Keep consuming the fake, delusional news from the side that murdered, raped, burned, and kidnapped children, women, men, and the elderly. If you’re on their side, something is seriously wrong with you. In a few years, when radical Islam destroys every decent part of your country, you’ll finally realize how foolish you were for supporting the wrong side.

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Amazing how you can kill a load of people with pagers yet now they choose to use a scorched earth policy and genocide, something wrong with you if you think starving and bombing to death thousands of children will bring the innocent back from October 7th. It’s now a bloodlust, it’s not about getting justice, Bibi doesnt give a fuck about peace because he knows if Hamas completely agreed to the 20 point plan there wpuld be elections straight after and him and his right wing cunts woukd be out of office. A despot wants only one thing and that’s to hold onto power even if it means killing his own people and wiping out another.
If you think it’s all AI why don’t your government let reporters around the world in, if they aren’t starving why aren’t you letting the flotilla in, do you think the UN is lying, do you everyone is lying but Israel? A fucking disgrace and you will be judged forever on this just like the Nazis you hated you have become them. They are entitled to that land just as much as you by the way.
I believe your heart is in the right place, but I’m sorry you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Do you realize you’re repeating things Hamas spreads? Hamas -a terrorist organization! They actually made you believe this war continues because Bibi wants to stay prime minister, not because we have hostages in Gaza and a terrorist group sitting on our borders, repeatedly declaring its goal is the destruction of the Jewish state.

And Bibi himself said he agreed to Trump’s proposal and is willing to stop the war if the hostages are released and Hamas is disarmed. So how can you say he refuses because he’s afraid of elections? By the way - spoiler alarm: whether elections are tomorrow, in a year, or in five years, Bibi will win it easily. He doesn’t need to fear elections. That’s what our opposition politicians shout to pressure him, but it’s simply not true.

The war will end when Hamas surrenders. I dont want any innocent people to get hurt but Innocent people died in World War II too,should we have kept the Nazis in power to avoid civilian casualties in hindsight? Why don’t you pressure Hamas to surrender now so innocent Palestinians can live normal lives? Why blame Israel?
 
I haven’t joined this discussion since that cursed day of October 7. I’ve been a member of this forum for many years and wanted to focus only on football. Today, after almost two years, I returned to the conversation. I didn’t expect anything different but it still hurts me deeply how many people here feed on the lies of pathetic terrorists.

There is no hunger in Gaza, that lie has been debunked countless times and was spread from the start as psychological warfare to stop the war. The skinny children you see suffer from genetic illnesses, and I’m not even talking about the number of AI-generated fake images. Israel is bringing in hundreds of trucks every day with food, fuel, hygiene products, and everything else the people in Gaza need. Check the facts; don’t believe everything you read.

Since the beginning of the war, the food Israel has brought into Gaza is equivalent to 3,000 calories per person per day - more than people eat daily in countries not at war. Do you know what is true? Hamas seizes most of the goods that enter for free, shoots people in cold blood when they try to take food, and then sells it at astronomical prices to pay its terrorists’ salaries. Hamas is the one who started this war -murder, rape, burning people alive, beheading, and kidnapping more than 1,400 people in a single day during a Jewish holiday. Hamas still holds about 50 hostages; these people are alive, kept in tunnels, starving and chained. Check me on this.

For two years Hamas has refused to make a deal to stop the war even though Israel agreed to countless proposals to end the war on condition that the hostages would be released and Hamas would give up its weapons. Hamas won’t agree. They operate from schools, mosques, hospitals, and populated civilian areas intentionally, using the people there as human shields. I can’t understand how you don’t see this.

How can you choose the side of extremist Islam that wants to kill all Jews and you in Europe are next? How can you not see that extremist Islam is expanding across Europe and threatening every one of you? Don’t believe me? Wait a few years and you’ll see how big a mistake you made.

I have nothing against Muslims. I have many Muslim friends. Over 2.5 million Arab citizens live in Israel and we live side by side. I’m talking about extremist Islamists who want to live by Sharia law and consider anyone who isn’t Muslim an infidel who must be killed. You have no idea how wrong you are: instead of pressuring Hamas to surrender, you are helping them, even recognizing a Palestinian state. Gaza was an independent Palestinian territory; Israel left it twenty years ago and gave it self-rule. Instead of improving people’s lives - building, creating better living conditions, turning it into the Riviera of the Middle East with technology, industry and commerce - they repeatedly chose terror.

We’ve been hit with tens of thousands of rockets over the last twenty years, thousands of people killed and the peak was October 7: 1,200 killed in one day and 250 kidnapped. Look at who Hamas’s leaders are and how much money they have. They live lavish lives in seven-star hotels -they are billionaires, while their people are desperately poor. Every dollar of aid to Gaza and the Palestinians over the past twenty years either ended up in hamas leaders private pockets or was used to build terror infrastructure: thousands of kilometers of tunnels, rockets, and disguises. You simply don’t know what you’re talking about.

Remember my post in a few years when terror attacks won’t be only in synagogues like today but also in churches, restaurants, bars and on the streets. If Hamas had surrendered, this war would have ended long ago. Now imagine thousands of terrorists storming London or Manchester in one day and brutally murdering 1,200 innocent people, burning them alive, beheading them, raping women. Wouldn’t you expect your country to wipe them out to ash? Or would you agree to give them a state in the middle of England as a prize?
Beyond puddled
 
I believe your heart is in the right place, but I’m sorry you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Do you realize you’re repeating things Hamas spreads? Hamas -a terrorist organization! They actually made you believe this war continues because Bibi wants to stay prime minister, not because we have hostages in Gaza and a terrorist group sitting on our borders, repeatedly declaring its goal is the destruction of the Jewish state.

And Bibi himself said he agreed to Trump’s proposal and is willing to stop the war if the hostages are released and Hamas is disarmed. So how can you say he refuses because he’s afraid of elections? By the way - spoiler alarm: whether elections are tomorrow, in a year, or in five years, Bibi will win it easily. He doesn’t need to fear elections. That’s what our opposition politicians shout to pressure him, but it’s simply not true.

The war will end when Hamas surrenders. I dont want any innocent people to get hurt but Innocent people died in World War II too,should we have kept the Nazis in power to avoid civilian casualties in hindsight? Why don’t you pressure Hamas to surrender now so innocent Palestinians can live normal lives? Why blame Israel?
I’m. Not repeating anything Hamas says, I’m repeating what the UN and counties other counties, media etc are saying, why won’t you let foreign reporters into Gaza, what are you afraid of? The truth that Israel is wiping out a people, Bibi agreed to the plan because he knows it will never happen, trying to stroke Trumps dick by nominating him for a Nobel Peace prize, do me a fucking favour, innocent people died in World War Two for a greater cause not to wipeout a people, had we the technology and means to to take out hitker and his henchman in ww2 we would’ve done, Israel choose not to do this now because the Zionist want to wipe them out, same as the West Bank whcih you constantly break international law over.
In one way I hope the Palestinians leave Israel and you have your holy land and that you become isolated from the rest of the world let’s see if it’s worth it then, all in the cause of some mythical being returning.
 
I haven’t joined this discussion since that cursed day of October 7. I’ve been a member of this forum for many years and wanted to focus only on football. Today, after almost two years, I returned to the conversation. I didn’t expect anything different but it still hurts me deeply how many people here feed on the lies of pathetic terrorists.

There is no hunger in Gaza, that lie has been debunked countless times and was spread from the start as psychological warfare to stop the war. The skinny children you see suffer from genetic illnesses, and I’m not even talking about the number of AI-generated fake images. Israel is bringing in hundreds of trucks every day with food, fuel, hygiene products, and everything else the people in Gaza need. Check the facts; don’t believe everything you read.

Since the beginning of the war, the food Israel has brought into Gaza is equivalent to 3,000 calories per person per day - more than people eat daily in countries not at war. Do you know what is true? Hamas seizes most of the goods that enter for free, shoots people in cold blood when they try to take food, and then sells it at astronomical prices to pay its terrorists’ salaries. Hamas is the one who started this war -murder, rape, burning people alive, beheading, and kidnapping more than 1,400 people in a single day during a Jewish holiday. Hamas still holds about 50 hostages; these people are alive, kept in tunnels, starving and chained. Check me on this.

For two years Hamas has refused to make a deal to stop the war even though Israel agreed to countless proposals to end the war on condition that the hostages would be released and Hamas would give up its weapons. Hamas won’t agree. They operate from schools, mosques, hospitals, and populated civilian areas intentionally, using the people there as human shields. I can’t understand how you don’t see this.

How can you choose the side of extremist Islam that wants to kill all Jews and you in Europe are next? How can you not see that extremist Islam is expanding across Europe and threatening every one of you? Don’t believe me? Wait a few years and you’ll see how big a mistake you made.

I have nothing against Muslims. I have many Muslim friends. Over 2.5 million Arab citizens live in Israel and we live side by side. I’m talking about extremist Islamists who want to live by Sharia law and consider anyone who isn’t Muslim an infidel who must be killed. You have no idea how wrong you are: instead of pressuring Hamas to surrender, you are helping them, even recognizing a Palestinian state. Gaza was an independent Palestinian territory; Israel left it twenty years ago and gave it self-rule. Instead of improving people’s lives - building, creating better living conditions, turning it into the Riviera of the Middle East with technology, industry and commerce - they repeatedly chose terror.

We’ve been hit with tens of thousands of rockets over the last twenty years, thousands of people killed and the peak was October 7: 1,200 killed in one day and 250 kidnapped. Look at who Hamas’s leaders are and how much money they have. They live lavish lives in seven-star hotels -they are billionaires, while their people are desperately poor. Every dollar of aid to Gaza and the Palestinians over the past twenty years either ended up in hamas leaders private pockets or was used to build terror infrastructure: thousands of kilometers of tunnels, rockets, and disguises. You simply don’t know what you’re talking about.

Remember my post in a few years when terror attacks won’t be only in synagogues like today but also in churches, restaurants, bars and on the streets. If Hamas had surrendered, this war would have ended long ago. Now imagine thousands of terrorists storming London or Manchester in one day and brutally murdering 1,200 innocent people, burning them alive, beheading them, raping women. Wouldn’t you expect your country to wipe them out to ash? Or would you agree to give them a state in the middle of England as a prize?
Feeding on the lies of pathetic terrorists, would those be the lies of the UN commission? A commission which confirmed your country's sick government is committing genocide, and has been for over two years? That commission confirmed that, yes, there is hunger in Gaza. Not just hunger, but famine. Confirmed by many reputable sources and global news agencies. This famine has been caused because your country is blockading all humanitariam routes into Gaza. I didn't want to dignify the human shield trope, as it's infantile and an affront to anyone with even a modicum of common sense. By this logic, around 30,000 terrorists have been killed since Oct 7th. In an area about the size of Greater Manchester. Forgive me for thinking that most of that number are innocent civilians. You claim people on here are choosing the side of exremist Islam? Tell you what, I'll flip it, you're supporting the side of extremist Judaism; better known as Zionism. No? Are you not supporting Zionism? In which case you'll be prepared to condemn what your government are allowing to happen? Your country claims to have left Gaza to self-rule, conveniently ignoring the fact that many in your country have been illegally settling in the West Bank and have threatened further illegal settlements into the strip for decades. You've been hit with thousands of rockets over the past twenty years? So too have Palestine. Your country was gifted to you by a Western coalition. You had the choice to live there peacefully, instead you've been making incremental incursions into another sovereign territory for generations, and not quite content with taking the land of another sovereign territory, you now want to cleanse that territory of it's people, the majority of whom live in peace.

The rest of your diatribe on Islam is exactly that, a diatribe. I won't need to remember your diatribe in a few years because I've been hearing it for years myself. "Islam is taking over Europe", "the great replacement theory", "enforced Sharia law", and the more recent scare-mongering, hateful bullshitty "army of fighting-age men". You're an open book. I've got a family member who thinks just the same, and I can read him just as easily.

Several Jews have come on here and condemned today's atrocity, and they're good people. A time like this should bring people together, instead, you've come on here with your hate and used this atrocity to justify the killings of thousands of innocent people. October 7th was an appalling event that shouldn't and has never been minimised. So too is the ongoing genocide in Gaza; the lives lost, both Jews and Muslims, all share the same thing. They were innocent.

You're just another algorithm.
 
I haven’t joined this discussion since that cursed day of October 7. I’ve been a member of this forum for many years and wanted to focus only on football. Today, after almost two years, I returned to the conversation. I didn’t expect anything different but it still hurts me deeply how many people here feed on the lies of pathetic terrorists.

There is no hunger in Gaza, that lie has been debunked countless times and was spread from the start as psychological warfare to stop the war. The skinny children you see suffer from genetic illnesses, and I’m not even talking about the number of AI-generated fake images. Israel is bringing in hundreds of trucks every day with food, fuel, hygiene products, and everything else the people in Gaza need. Check the facts; don’t believe everything you read.

Since the beginning of the war, the food Israel has brought into Gaza is equivalent to 3,000 calories per person per day - more than people eat daily in countries not at war. Do you know what is true? Hamas seizes most of the goods that enter for free, shoots people in cold blood when they try to take food, and then sells it at astronomical prices to pay its terrorists’ salaries. Hamas is the one who started this war -murder, rape, burning people alive, beheading, and kidnapping more than 1,400 people in a single day during a Jewish holiday. Hamas still holds about 50 hostages; these people are alive, kept in tunnels, starving and chained. Check me on this.

For two years Hamas has refused to make a deal to stop the war even though Israel agreed to countless proposals to end the war on condition that the hostages would be released and Hamas would give up its weapons. Hamas won’t agree. They operate from schools, mosques, hospitals, and populated civilian areas intentionally, using the people there as human shields. I can’t understand how you don’t see this.

How can you choose the side of extremist Islam that wants to kill all Jews and you in Europe are next? How can you not see that extremist Islam is expanding across Europe and threatening every one of you? Don’t believe me? Wait a few years and you’ll see how big a mistake you made.

I have nothing against Muslims. I have many Muslim friends. Over 2.5 million Arab citizens live in Israel and we live side by side. I’m talking about extremist Islamists who want to live by Sharia law and consider anyone who isn’t Muslim an infidel who must be killed. You have no idea how wrong you are: instead of pressuring Hamas to surrender, you are helping them, even recognizing a Palestinian state. Gaza was an independent Palestinian territory; Israel left it twenty years ago and gave it self-rule. Instead of improving people’s lives - building, creating better living conditions, turning it into the Riviera of the Middle East with technology, industry and commerce - they repeatedly chose terror.

We’ve been hit with tens of thousands of rockets over the last twenty years, thousands of people killed and the peak was October 7: 1,200 killed in one day and 250 kidnapped. Look at who Hamas’s leaders are and how much money they have. They live lavish lives in seven-star hotels -they are billionaires, while their people are desperately poor. Every dollar of aid to Gaza and the Palestinians over the past twenty years either ended up in hamas leaders private pockets or was used to build terror infrastructure: thousands of kilometers of tunnels, rockets, and disguises. You simply don’t know what you’re talking about.

Remember my post in a few years when terror attacks won’t be only in synagogues like today but also in churches, restaurants, bars and on the streets. If Hamas had surrendered, this war would have ended long ago. Now imagine thousands of terrorists storming London or Manchester in one day and brutally murdering 1,200 innocent people, burning them alive, beheading them, raping women. Wouldn’t you expect your country to wipe them out to ash? Or would you agree to give them a state in the middle of England as a prize?
Sit this one out pal, genocide ain't the right side of history.
What happened on Oct 7th was beyond horrific but, the children of Gaza didn't carry it out.
Your government is creating an army of radicals for the ages.
 
Seems legit…






I could bring you thousands of such proofs, but in the end you believe only what you want to believe. Do your own research and look for facts, not the lies spread by terrorist groups or pro-Palestinian propaganda. Hunger is like a plague: if one person were truly starving, the entire population would show it. Instead, you take fake or isolated images of children with genetic illnesses while it’s clear the rest of the population looks completely normal. Search Google, look at the news, and see for yourself how people in Gaza appear. And why is it that whenever you see an allegedly starving child, the parents holding them look perfectly healthy? What kind of mother would eat normally and not give food to her child? There is no famine in Gaza. This is an antisemitic campaign that succeeded far more than expected only because of stupid people like you who believe every lie you are told.
 






I could bring you thousands of such proofs, but in the end you believe only what you want to believe. Do your own research and look for facts, not the lies spread by terrorist groups or pro-Palestinian propaganda. Hunger is like a plague: if one person were truly starving, the entire population would show it. Instead, you take fake or isolated images of children with genetic illnesses while it’s clear the rest of the population looks completely normal. Search Google, look at the news, and see for yourself how people in Gaza appear. And why is it that whenever you see an allegedly starving child, the parents holding them look perfectly healthy? What kind of mother would eat normally and not give food to her child? There is no famine in Gaza. This is an antisemitic campaign that succeeded far more than expected only because of stupid people like you who believe every lie you are told.
Bore off you tedious ****.
 






I could bring you thousands of such proofs, but in the end you believe only what you want to believe. Do your own research and look for facts, not the lies spread by terrorist groups or pro-Palestinian propaganda. Hunger is like a plague: if one person were truly starving, the entire population would show it. Instead, you take fake or isolated images of children with genetic illnesses while it’s clear the rest of the population looks completely normal. Search Google, look at the news, and see for yourself how people in Gaza appear. And why is it that whenever you see an allegedly starving child, the parents holding them look perfectly healthy? What kind of mother would eat normally and not give food to her child? There is no famine in Gaza. This is an antisemitic campaign that succeeded far more than expected only because of stupid people like you who believe every lie you are told.
You'll be telling us next the West Bank doesn’t belong to the Palestinians.
 






I could bring you thousands of such proofs, but in the end you believe only what you want to believe. Do your own research and look for facts, not the lies spread by terrorist groups or pro-Palestinian propaganda. Hunger is like a plague: if one person were truly starving, the entire population would show it. Instead, you take fake or isolated images of children with genetic illnesses while it’s clear the rest of the population looks completely normal. Search Google, look at the news, and see for yourself how people in Gaza appear. And why is it that whenever you see an allegedly starving child, the parents holding them look perfectly healthy? What kind of mother would eat normally and not give food to her child? There is no famine in Gaza. This is an antisemitic campaign that succeeded far more than expected only because of stupid people like you who believe every lie you are told.
And there we go anti semitic! I’ll call out Islamic terrorists doesnt mean I hate Muslims, and I’ll call out genocide by Israel doesnt mean I’m anti semitic, stop with the woh is me bollocks, we don’t hate Jews we hate your fucking genocidel leaders and the killing of thousands of innocent people, the same as I’ll call out Trump when he starts on his own people, I won’t be anti American I’d be anti Trump.
 
I haven’t joined this discussion since that cursed day of October 7. I’ve been a member of this forum for many years and wanted to focus only on football. Today, after almost two years, I returned to the conversation. I didn’t expect anything different but it still hurts me deeply how many people here feed on the lies of pathetic terrorists.

There is no hunger in Gaza, that lie has been debunked countless times and was spread from the start as psychological warfare to stop the war. The skinny children you see suffer from genetic illnesses, and I’m not even talking about the number of AI-generated fake images. Israel is bringing in hundreds of trucks every day with food, fuel, hygiene products, and everything else the people in Gaza need. Check the facts; don’t believe everything you read.

Since the beginning of the war, the food Israel has brought into Gaza is equivalent to 3,000 calories per person per day - more than people eat daily in countries not at war. Do you know what is true? Hamas seizes most of the goods that enter for free, shoots people in cold blood when they try to take food, and then sells it at astronomical prices to pay its terrorists’ salaries. Hamas is the one who started this war -murder, rape, burning people alive, beheading, and kidnapping more than 1,400 people in a single day during a Jewish holiday. Hamas still holds about 50 hostages; these people are alive, kept in tunnels, starving and chained. Check me on this.

For two years Hamas has refused to make a deal to stop the war even though Israel agreed to countless proposals to end the war on condition that the hostages would be released and Hamas would give up its weapons. Hamas won’t agree. They operate from schools, mosques, hospitals, and populated civilian areas intentionally, using the people there as human shields. I can’t understand how you don’t see this.

How can you choose the side of extremist Islam that wants to kill all Jews and you in Europe are next? How can you not see that extremist Islam is expanding across Europe and threatening every one of you? Don’t believe me? Wait a few years and you’ll see how big a mistake you made.

I have nothing against Muslims. I have many Muslim friends. Over 2.5 million Arab citizens live in Israel and we live side by side. I’m talking about extremist Islamists who want to live by Sharia law and consider anyone who isn’t Muslim an infidel who must be killed. You have no idea how wrong you are: instead of pressuring Hamas to surrender, you are helping them, even recognizing a Palestinian state. Gaza was an independent Palestinian territory; Israel left it twenty years ago and gave it self-rule. Instead of improving people’s lives - building, creating better living conditions, turning it into the Riviera of the Middle East with technology, industry and commerce - they repeatedly chose terror.

We’ve been hit with tens of thousands of rockets over the last twenty years, thousands of people killed and the peak was October 7: 1,200 killed in one day and 250 kidnapped. Look at who Hamas’s leaders are and how much money they have. They live lavish lives in seven-star hotels -they are billionaires, while their people are desperately poor. Every dollar of aid to Gaza and the Palestinians over the past twenty years either ended up in hamas leaders private pockets or was used to build terror infrastructure: thousands of kilometers of tunnels, rockets, and disguises. You simply don’t know what you’re talking about.

Remember my post in a few years when terror attacks won’t be only in synagogues like today but also in churches, restaurants, bars and on the streets. If Hamas had surrendered, this war would have ended long ago. Now imagine thousands of terrorists storming London or Manchester in one day and brutally murdering 1,200 innocent people, burning them alive, beheading them, raping women. Wouldn’t you expect your country to wipe them out to ash? Or would you agree to give them a state in the middle of England as a prize?


Today, of all days for this absolute nonsense shows why Israel will always be unstable, these views are every single bit as biased and downright scary as the extremist Muslim (terrorist - Hamas) views you have referenced above. You can't and won't see it which is terrifying.
 
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I see far too many people here who’ve been swept up by online nonsense. If you keep believing it, you’ll be begging Israel for help in a few years when extremist Islam tears apart everything good in your country. You have no idea what you’re getting yourselves into.
So I’ll add one last thing, the most important point -the war will end the second Hamas surrenders and returns the hostages. Hamas was elected with a decisive majority and claims to represent the Palestinian people, yet it is a terrorist organization that calls for the murder of Jews and anyone who isn’t Muslim.

Even if you accept ,for argument’s sake, that most civilians are innocent, Hamas itself refuses to relinquish power or disarm. Dozens of countries are ready to offer the people of Gaza a different future: prosperity, peace, coexistence, and economic opportunity but only if Hamas is removed from power and gives up its weapons. Those are the same weapons used over the last twenty years to kill thousands of innocent people after the Palestinians were granted self-rule. And still Hamas refuses.

Its leaders are billionaires live in luxury while their people suffer and the organization siphons off aid to finance terror. So tell me: what do you want Israel to do? Apply pressure on the Palestinians and on Hamas, not on us. You know as well as I do that if an attack like October 7 had happened in the heart of London, no one would call for mercy before the enemy surrendered.

I’m done. I’m against wars and against harm to innocent people. For eighty years we’ve reached out for peace and been stabbed in the back. Every agreement we’ve made with the Palestinians has ended with the murder of thousands of Jews. Don't believe me? Read about the Oslo Accords, the first and second intifadas, and the countless wars we had against Gaza in the last 20 years, right after they gained independence from us, and , of course, October 7.
You still don’t understand that extremist Islam does not want peace, it wants to kill anyone different from it. And you’ll be next. Good luck.
 
I believe your heart is in the right place, but I’m sorry you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Do you realize you’re repeating things Hamas spreads? Hamas -a terrorist organization! They actually made you believe this war continues because Bibi wants to stay prime minister, not because we have hostages in Gaza and a terrorist group sitting on our borders, repeatedly declaring its goal is the destruction of the Jewish state.

And Bibi himself said he agreed to Trump’s proposal and is willing to stop the war if the hostages are released and Hamas is disarmed. So how can you say he refuses because he’s afraid of elections? By the way - spoiler alarm: whether elections are tomorrow, in a year, or in five years, Bibi will win it easily. He doesn’t need to fear elections. That’s what our opposition politicians shout to pressure him, but it’s simply not true.

The war will end when Hamas surrenders. I dont want any innocent people to get hurt but Innocent people died in World War II too,should we have kept the Nazis in power to avoid civilian casualties in hindsight? Why don’t you pressure Hamas to surrender now so innocent Palestinians can live normal lives? Why blame Israel?
I wish what you write was true because it would mean no children were starving and dying shot in the head from the IDF target practice. The 86% of buildings blown to bits all over Gaza and I could go on listing endless things Netanyahu and the IDF have done for example shot two hostages dead waving their white flags in the air.

Our PM has said 86% of Gaza has been destroyed, I believe it’s a land grab by Netanyahu Hamas will hold on to the remaining hostages as the IDF close in on their stronghold
 
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Cheap populist. Keep consuming the fake, delusional news from the side that murdered, raped, burned, and kidnapped children, women, men, and the elderly. If you’re on their side, something is seriously wrong with you. In a few years, when radical Islam destroys every decent part of your country, you’ll finally realize how foolish you were for supporting the wrong side.
A beacon of light in the dark.Well said.
You won't be popular with many on here though..
 
I haven’t joined this discussion since that cursed day of October 7. I’ve been a member of this forum for many years and wanted to focus only on football. Today, after almost two years, I returned to the conversation. I didn’t expect anything different but it still hurts me deeply how many people here feed on the lies of pathetic terrorists.

There is no hunger in Gaza, that lie has been debunked countless times and was spread from the start as psychological warfare to stop the war. The skinny children you see suffer from genetic illnesses, and I’m not even talking about the number of AI-generated fake images. Israel is bringing in hundreds of trucks every day with food, fuel, hygiene products, and everything else the people in Gaza need. Check the facts; don’t believe everything you read.

Since the beginning of the war, the food Israel has brought into Gaza is equivalent to 3,000 calories per person per day - more than people eat daily in countries not at war. Do you know what is true? Hamas seizes most of the goods that enter for free, shoots people in cold blood when they try to take food, and then sells it at astronomical prices to pay its terrorists’ salaries. Hamas is the one who started this war -murder, rape, burning people alive, beheading, and kidnapping more than 1,400 people in a single day during a Jewish holiday. Hamas still holds about 50 hostages; these people are alive, kept in tunnels, starving and chained. Check me on this.

For two years Hamas has refused to make a deal to stop the war even though Israel agreed to countless proposals to end the war on condition that the hostages would be released and Hamas would give up its weapons. Hamas won’t agree. They operate from schools, mosques, hospitals, and populated civilian areas intentionally, using the people there as human shields. I can’t understand how you don’t see this.

How can you choose the side of extremist Islam that wants to kill all Jews and you in Europe are next? How can you not see that extremist Islam is expanding across Europe and threatening every one of you? Don’t believe me? Wait a few years and you’ll see how big a mistake you made.

I have nothing against Muslims. I have many Muslim friends. Over 2.5 million Arab citizens live in Israel and we live side by side. I’m talking about extremist Islamists who want to live by Sharia law and consider anyone who isn’t Muslim an infidel who must be killed. You have no idea how wrong you are: instead of pressuring Hamas to surrender, you are helping them, even recognizing a Palestinian state. Gaza was an independent Palestinian territory; Israel left it twenty years ago and gave it self-rule. Instead of improving people’s lives - building, creating better living conditions, turning it into the Riviera of the Middle East with technology, industry and commerce - they repeatedly chose terror.

We’ve been hit with tens of thousands of rockets over the last twenty years, thousands of people killed and the peak was October 7: 1,200 killed in one day and 250 kidnapped. Look at who Hamas’s leaders are and how much money they have. They live lavish lives in seven-star hotels -they are billionaires, while their people are desperately poor. Every dollar of aid to Gaza and the Palestinians over the past twenty years either ended up in hamas leaders private pockets or was used to build terror infrastructure: thousands of kilometers of tunnels, rockets, and disguises. You simply don’t know what you’re talking about.

Remember my post in a few years when terror attacks won’t be only in synagogues like today but also in churches, restaurants, bars and on the streets. If Hamas had surrendered, this war would have ended long ago. Now imagine thousands of terrorists storming London or Manchester in one day and brutally murdering 1,200 innocent people, burning them alive, beheading them, raping women. Wouldn’t you expect your country to wipe them out to ash? Or would you agree to give them a state in the middle of England as a prize?
Hi mate that's dead interesting and I never heard about this before, if I'm honest I never even knew there was even such thing as a 7 star hotel lol. it's also quite a picture you painted there of terrorists running around beheading people, makes you think twice about condemning things like as you put it 'for arguments sake' death of 'innocent' civilian.

You mentioned about checking facts and your very specific and certain about the likes of the 3000 calories thingy, can you recommend who I should listen to? I see you have links there to the likes of stuff.nz and the Christian post but can you be specific?
Or, like where I should pick and choose the info I consume as I'm sure you understand, the whole complex world of believing your own eyes and ears is difficult these days especially when have the likes of the International Association of Genocide Scholars coming out with nonsense stuff we won't get into. Also totally agree with you on the ww2 stuff, as they say if you want to make an omelette you have to craic a few eggs right?
 
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