President Trump

Silva61 said:
I'm not great fan of Trump however I will tell you I support Conservative values.
Trump has a free run at the moment, the opposition are too busy in fighting and are unelectable.
Could you perhaps mention 1 or 2 of their policies.
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I'm amazed that anyone that claims to have conservative values doesn't despise everything Trump stands for.
 
Silva61 said:
I'd have to disagree. My Conservative values are a free market economy, minimum beurocracy, strong borders, law and order, family values and patriotic to your country.
As I mentioned before the opposition are far too busy infighting they've opened the door to project2025.
More fool them.
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Is it the secure border you like? The removal of illegals? The crackdown on lawlessness in DC? The record stock market? The tariff revenues? The 3.8% growth? The tax cuts? The low gas prices? The deregulatory agenda? The end of DEI policies? The peace deals? The trade deals? The war on the drug cartels? The removal of men from women's sports? The reduction in the size of government? Can you be more specific please?
 
Silva61 said:
I'd have to disagree. My Conservative values are a free market economy, minimum beurocracy, strong borders, law and order, family values and patriotic to your country.
As I mentioned before the opposition are far too busy infighting they've opened the door to project2025.
More fool them.
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In most authoritarian regimes 'free markets' are rigged and parts of the bureaucracy are increased to support top down control; so you might find yourself disappointed. As for law and order that ship appears to already be heading over the horizon.
 
Silva61 said:
I'd have to disagree. My Conservative values are a free market economy, minimum beurocracy, strong borders, law and order, family values and patriotic to your country.
As I mentioned before the opposition are far too busy infighting they've opened the door to project2025.
More fool them.
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Donald is a felon. He is an alleged child abuser. He has repeated failed marriages, describes his daughter as a piece of ass, and now ignores the US constitution repeatedly. In what way does he uphold law and order and family values?
 
journolud said:
I'll have something positive to say about him when he's dead. Well, sort of.

While he's alive though he's a **** with no redeeming features. Positively
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In my opinion to mock someone when there dead and not there to defend themselves is pretty low, unless they've rated your daughter or a mass murderer for example.
Hope you didn't mock Charlie Kirks murder.
 
threespires said:
In most authoritarian regimes 'free markets' are rigged and parts of the bureaucracy are increased to support top down control; so you might find yourself disappointed. As for law and order that ship appears to already be heading over the horizon.
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I wouldn't disagree however it isn't an authoritarian regime, not according to 80m Americans.
 
Silva61 said:
In my opinion to mock someone when there dead and not there to defend themselves is pretty low, unless they've rated your daughter or a mass murderer for example.
Hope you didn't mock Charlie Kirks murder.
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No need for me to wait till he's dead to mock him, I do it now. Not that he needs to defend himself against me. Anyway he's pretty thick skinned and doesn't take criticism personally.

No I didn't mock the death of Charlie Kirk. You can sleep easy tonight
 
Silva61 said:
In my opinion to mock someone when there dead and not there to defend themselves is pretty low, unless they've rated your daughter or a mass murderer for example.
Hope you didn't mock Charlie Kirks murder.
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Wow. From a Trump supporter that's really something.


According to a September 2020 article in The Atlantic by Jeffrey Goldberg, following McCain's death in August 2018, Trump, according to three sources with direct knowledge of the event, allegedly told his senior staff:

We’re not going to support that loser’s funeral
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The article also goes on to suggest that Trump became furious when he saw flags lowered to half-staff in honor of McCain, telling his aides:

What the fuck are we doing that for? Guy was a fucking loser.
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Silva61 said:
I wouldn't disagree however it isn't an authoritarian regime, not according to 80m Americans.
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Not sure I follow your logic. What a government is, is a function of what it does when it's in power not how many people voted for it. Surveys suggest about 20-30% of Americans are prepared to bin off democracy for a 'strong' leader and I suspect a fair few of them will be in that 80m. So that leaves the rump of traditional conservatives to recognise what's going on and reject it, or not as the case may be.
 
Silva61 said:
I wouldn't disagree however it isn't an authoritarian regime, not according to 80m Americans.
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So what? More Americans believe the earth was created in the last few 1000 years. They're wrong too.

news.gallup.com

40% of Americans Believe in Creationism

Four in 10 Americans have a creationist view of human origins, while 33% believe humans evolved with God's guidance and 22% without it.
news.gallup.com news.gallup.com
 
Hgblue2 said:
Is it the secure border you like? The removal of illegals? The crackdown on lawlessness in DC? The record stock market? The tariff revenues? The 3.8% growth? The tax cuts? The low gas prices? The deregulatory agenda? The end of DEI policies? The peace deals? The trade deals? The war on the drug cartels? The removal of men from women's sports? The reduction in the size of government? Can you be more specific please?
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Removal of tampons from men's toilets.
 
oldius said:
Donald is a felon. He is an alleged child abuser. He has repeated failed marriages, describes his daughter as a piece of ass, and now ignores the US constitution repeatedly. In what way does he uphold law and order and family values?
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Weather he does or not i never said he did, those are my values.
Get over him.
 
Silva61 said:
I'd have to disagree. My Conservative values are a free market economy, minimum beurocracy, strong borders, law and order, family values and patriotic to your country.
As I mentioned before the opposition are far too busy infighting they've opened the door to project2025.
More fool them.
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What do you mean by family values?
 
threespires said:
Not sure I follow your logic. What a government is, is a function of what it does when it's in power not how many people voted for it. Surveys suggest about 20-30% of Americans are prepared to bin off democracy for a 'strong' leader and I suspect a fair few of them will be in that 80m. So that leaves the rump of traditional conservatives to recognise what's going on and reject it, or not as the case may be.
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Maybe we'll all know better come the mid terms
threespires said:
Not sure I follow your logic. What a government is, is a function of what it does when it's in power not how many people voted for it. Surveys suggest about 20-30% of Americans are prepared to bin off democracy for a 'strong' leader and I suspect a fair few of them will be in that 80m. So that leaves the rump of traditional conservatives to recognise what's going on and reject it, or not as the case may be.
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I guess we'll be nearer the answer come the mid terms or the28 election.
I wouldn't take much from surveys, hear both sides and make your own mind up
 
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