President Trump

bluejon said:
The question is, does there come a point where some part of the military refuses to carry out what it believes to be an unconstitutional order. And what happens then is anyone's guess.
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After his Military PR Triumph of last week? :-)
 
Robanompivenov said:
The performance for an audience of one.

She's a disgrace to her office. Acting like Trump's personal attorney.

Did she answer a single question? To be fair, the committee absolutely exposed her for what she is today.
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Yes, this has been happening to all of this administration, all year.

Unfortunately, his voter base is shielded from the coverage. They simply don't get to watch these embarrassing morons/liars showing their true colours.

It's even worse now, with Truth Social pushing its dedicated (subscription, of course) media feed ensuring absolute, total control of Cletus' brainwashing material.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
The successes of others are poured into your eyes, ears and brain every single day by relentless social media, so you and millions of others feel hopelessly resentful. Then you self-select social media that specifically targets your fear and your anger, and stokes it. That’s the biggest difference between now and then.

Or I could be wrong and 70s Britain was better.
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Though you'll get no argument from me about the toxicity of SM I'd add two things.

I'm not sure it's all self-selection plenty of evidence that algorithmic boosting and manipulation both, legitimate and opaque, takes place.

Something that was measurably better in 70s Britain was social mobility. Driven by income, occupational and educational mobility it was easier to get, as the Aussies would say, "a fair go". That has changed for the worse and the impact of both actual and perceived unfairness is a real driver of resentment. The SM bit you mention is the 'illusory' part but there is a real dimension too.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Leader of the most powerful nation in the world talks in riddles

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It’s embarrassing that people can watch shit like that and then simp for him on here and then blame the other party for him being there. It’s moronic reasoning, as for him upholding conservative values and/or doing what he said he would, that’s also complete fucking bollocks.

There’s some cunts on this thread I wouldn’t piss on to put out if they were on fire.
 
KS55 said:
Here’s a selection of his electoral promises. Judge for yourself if he is “doing what he said he would”
Trump promised:
To end inflation and reduce prices.
Settle the Russian-Ukraine war
Settle the Israel- Palestine war.
Ignore Project 2025.
Release the Epstein files.
Drill, baby, Drill.
Drain the swamp of DC.
Expel undocumented criminal immigrants.
Make America Great Again.
Bring manufacturing back to America.
No tax on tips
No tax on social security
Close the Southern border.
Produce a plan to increase gov efficiency and save 2trillion dollars.
Close the Education dept.
Pay for IVF
End DEI programs.
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Don’t forget he was going to release his tax returns and also come up with a new healthcare plan.
 
theholysmurf said:
I won’t be voting for reform, but they’ve got hell of a lot more chance of getting in than mere protest votes. They’re dominating the polls and wiped the floor with the other parties in the council elections earlier this year.
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We’ve seen this sort of phenomenon before, which often disappears under the pressure of reality at a GE.
 
Blue Maverick said:
If Trump goes full on dictator what does the rest of the world do? If he gets away with it in his own country say he marches into Greenland will Europe stand up to them? If they don’t then his ego will no doubt fancy taking something else, maybe storm into Mexico to finish off the cartels! Then Venezuela fir their resources, they certainly gave the military to do all this.
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Nope. He’s a bully who talks big but he’s a coward too.
 
threespires said:
Though you'll get no argument from me about the toxicity of SM I'd add two things.

I'm not sure it's all self-selection plenty of evidence that algorithmic boosting and manipulation both, legitimate and opaque, takes place.

Something that was measurably better in 70s Britain was social mobility. Driven by income, occupational and educational mobility it was easier to get, as the Aussies would say, "a fair go". That has changed for the worse and the impact of both actual and perceived unfairness is a real driver of resentment. The SM bit you mention is the 'illusory' part but there is a real dimension too.
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Are there any numbers showing this slow down in social mobility? Interesting theory.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Miller almost blurted out the whole plan...

Fucking hell. If these guys were even remotely competent, who knows where we'd be right now.

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Another example of a single incident that, were we discussing serious politicians, would probably end or at least define their entire career.

They should have just kept the cameras rolling 'Stephen, the entire world can see you moving - they know your feed hasn't frozen!'

Just another day at the office for this administration.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
There are a great many people who think like that (as do I) given the state the country is in after witnessing decades and decades of Labour and Conservatives getting progressively worse as each generation steps up.
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But Joe there's protests and then there's protests.This particular protest vote feels like when those poor sods used to set fire to themselves over the treatment of their fellow Buddhists. What's it called, self-immolation !

You're not wrong that successive governments have let the majority of the British people down but what's needed is a mass movement around stopping the ultra rich draining the coffers and controlling our destiny. There's 2-3 years to try and get that going rather than deciding now to chuck yourself on the bonfire.
 
Blue Maverick said:
If Trump goes full on dictator what does the rest of the world do? If he gets away with it in his own country say he marches into Greenland will Europe stand up to them? If they don’t then his ego will no doubt fancy taking something else, maybe storm into Mexico to finish off the cartels! Then Venezuela fir their resources, they certainly gave the military to do all this.
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He'll save those for late 2028, having seen how Ukraine have (not uniquely, of course) sidelined elections in wartime.
 
KS55 said:
Are there any numbers showing this slow down in social mobility? Interesting theory.
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Yeah quite a bit. There was a really good summation of some of it in the FT of all places. It's behind a paywall and I'll have to see if I've still got the graphs but I'll try and put some other references together on it too.

The concept of 'fairness' is psychologically really powerful and it's less about absolute value than it is about opportunity. So paradoxically people are less resentful about larger wealth inequalities IF they believe they have agency to do something about bridging that gap, than they are about smaller ones they feel are baked into a system loaded against them. At the moment we have the perfect storm of huge gaps and increasing belief that the system is stitching people up.

To me it's tied in with the concept of hope and I think once you lose that you become beaten and/or resentful. Imo the UK, understandably in many ways, has a massive hope deficit at the moment and people will reasonably look to anyone who offers hope. The problem with that is there's plenty of predators able to offer the false type for their own ends.

Anyway I'll dig some stuff out and link to it.
 
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