Villa v Maccabi Tel Aviv - away fans banned | MTA confirm they will refuse any allocation for safety reasons (p26)

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Rags fans aren't part of an army that regularly kills City fans though, regardless if this chant is regularly sung I'd say ban them too if you want to be consistent.

Rags are murdering cunts

Ayresome Park tragedy that killed two Boro fans 40 years ago today

Two Middlesbrough fans went to watch their team play Manchester United and never came home on January 12, 1980

www.gazettelive.co.uk

Football fan killed

A 35-year-old man diedand a second was seriously hurt as rival fans clashed before yesterday's FA Cup semi-final between Crystal Palace and Manchester United at Villa Park, Birmingham.

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

 

[WesthoughtonJohn]

Does seem like an overreaction, although not without recent precedent - think both Ajax and Frankfurt fans have also been subject to similar bans recently. Think it’s shit though - blanket banning fans from games is unnecessary imo.

I had a discussion about this with the missus today Ric - and yes she follows "football" (bolton ;))
People have short term memories - I can think of 2 precedents for this in the UK
Rangers/Celtic
Us/Millwall
If the police determine it's too dangerous that's that - and after behaviour elsewhere from Macabi fans I can see their concerns.
This instance appears to be being politicised due to what's happening outside of the actual game??
I rarely feel sympathy for Villa due to the abuse I had at Wembley - but this isn't the clubs fault, which some seem to be confused about, it's West Midlands Police

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Was there misbehaving on both sides in amsterdam? Yes.

They were attacked, and they also didnt help pulling down flags etc of palestine.

Would we do anything differently if it was us?

No surprise people like Corbyn have been forcing this for the last few weeks.

The ban will get overturned 100%

 

[blueparrot]

It’s a frequently heard Rag chant. They’ve sung it in every derby easily going back 20 years and they sing it at other times when they’re doing their usual City medley against random teams.

Sometimes they do a verse singing ‘Man City’ and then follow it up with a verse for ‘Joel Glazer’ and alternate each verse for a few minutes.

I've never heard it ,and first time I've heard it mentioned by anyone.

 

[Don Karleone]

You try and push that narrative, sunshine.

The facts are, they’ve banned the entire fanbase from travelling because they’re concerned the local community won’t behave themselves and the travelling fan base will be at risk.

Not entirely sure how we’ve got to this destination, but that’s where the UK currently is.

I'll go off what WMP said, not the narrative being pushed by false actors.

 

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City refused to do the Nazi salute the year before Villa

When City played in Berlin and foiled the Nazi propaganda machine

English champions went to Germany in 1937 on a hot streak to take on Hitler’s ‘political soldiers’ and came back with heads held high – but not their arms

www.independent.co.uk

 

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I've never heard it ,and first time I've heard it mentioned by anyone.

They always sing it at the Etihad, every season, without fail, for minutes on end.

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[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

City refused to do the Nazi salute the year before Villa

When City played in Berlin and foiled the Nazi propaganda machine

English champions went to Germany in 1937 on a hot streak to take on Hitler’s ‘political soldiers’ and came back with heads held high – but not their arms

www.independent.co.uk

Given that City weren’t even founded until 2008, it’s an impossibility…

 

[blueparrot]

They always sing it at the Etihad, every season, without fail, for minutes on end.

Fair enough can hardly make it out on the video ,not surprised no one in the ground csn make it out. Anyway hardly the same as singing about killing Arabs when they actually are.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

They can if they are Villa fans. It has fuck all to do with being a Jew it's the country Israel that's the problem

Of course being Jewish plays a part in this. The police are scared of another anti semitic terror attack happening. You can’t just ignore that factor and pretend it’s not happening

 

[M18CTID]

“In the summer of 1938, on a tour of Germany, the name Aston Villa became famous around the world, as the only visiting team who refused an official request to perform the Nazi salute prior to kickoff."

Apart from God's own team who refused to do it a year earlier!

 

[levets]

Fair enough can hardly make it out on the video ,not surprised no one in the ground csn make it out. Anyway hardly the same as singing about killing Arabs when they actually are.

Can hardly make it out? Are you hard of hearing? They’ve sung this for years; but you’re right it’s hardly comparable to the singing of ‘actually’ killing people.

 

[Mon Autre]

My head is honestly on Mars with the conversation this has sparked and especially from people who know nothing about football.

Whether you agree with banning travelling fans or not, its nothing new. They have a foul bunch of travelling ultras who start shit everywhere they go and theyve been banned as has happened many times before.

People who should know better are conflating banning maccabi fans with banning jewish people.

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

My head is honestly on Mars with the conversation this has sparked and especially from people who know nothing about football.

Whether you agree with banning travelling fans or not, its nothing new. They have a foul bunch of travelling ultras who start shit everywhere they go and theyve been banned as has happened many times before.

People who should know better are conflating banning maccabi fans with banning jewish people.

Tend to disagree with this. I think they’d have banned fans of any team from Israel.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

My head is honestly on Mars with the conversation this has sparked and especially from people who know nothing about football.

Whether you agree with banning travelling fans or not, its nothing new. They have a foul bunch of travelling ultras who start shit everywhere they go and theyve been banned as has happened many times before.

People who should know better are conflating banning maccabi fans with banning jewish people.

Name me five places where they have started shit and I don't mean the odd punch thrown.

 

[Superace]

Its a disgraceful decision no matter what way you look at it. Hopefully its looking like common sense will prevail and they will do a u-turn.

 

[Don Karleone]

Lovely bunch.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

I don't know the ins and outs, I suspect none of us do.

But thinking that the genocide that Israel have been commiting would not cause this sort of thing is naive. Our poisoned institutions might protect Israel but people will remember.

Well done Netanyahu, the whole of Israelis thanks you.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

They caused loads of trouble when they played Ajax last season. Probably related to that.