Priced out? | Club announce that matchday tickets being reduced by up to 43% (p93)

Nowhere near, it's not even close. How have you come to that conclusion?


The Premier League has not published the average age of its supporters since 2012-13 when it was said to be 41. It claimed 10 years later that 43 per cent — close to half — of matchgoing fans were aged between 18 and 34
  • Under 18 – 1.4%
  • 18 to 25 – 6.2%
  • 26 to 35 – 12.8%
  • 36 to 45 – 16%
  • 46 to 55 – 18.8%
  • 56 to 65 – 24.7%
  • Over 65 – 19.3%
The close to half being 19% from 18 to 35 (above) so less than that for 18 to 34?

Makes no sense?
 
They will fill the new stand, even at the current (lower) prices. Despite some claims on here, every home league game is sold out.

Your last line is what the club are doing now, trying to weed out the dodgy ST holders (which angers some), unfortunately that will impact on genuine Blues but there are exceptions in place if needed.
From where I sit in can usually see a block of around 50ish at the top of i think either 328 or 329 which as a previous poster said are probably unsold tout tickets .
I think the point is ,where are the 'back up' fans filling these seats and a potential circa 7k in the new stand.
The club have kept very tight lipped so they might surprise us with their plans but at the moment I'm not sure.Hope I'm wrong !
 
It's fucking ridiculous. I've worked in payments for the DWP and a bank, and a direct credit via BACS takes 3 working days to get into an account once sent. Let's be charitable and assume that it takes 5 working days to process that repayment and put it into BACS. That's still less than 10 working days.
My guess regarding the 45 day rule is that the club are wanting to process all the refunds for a game together so that means the earliest it can be is the first working day after the match. If games can be exchanged from 21 days prior and there’s a potential 5 day wait after a game (when 2x bank holidays and a weekend are together) then that’s 26 days before money might be sent, so around 30 days.

Perhaps it’s cheaper to do a batch rather than individually as people seem to be expecting. That said I can see the timeline probably reducing over time. Maybe crediting accounts (to redeem against foods or clothing or asking for a refund at the end of the season) would be cheaper rather than sending actual money every game.
 
Nowhere near, it's not even close. How have you come to that conclusion?


The Premier League has not published the average age of its supporters since 2012-13 when it was said to be 41. It claimed 10 years later that 43 per cent — close to half — of matchgoing fans were aged between 18 and 34
  • Under 18 – 1.4%
  • 18 to 25 – 6.2%
  • 26 to 35 – 12.8%
  • 36 to 45 – 16%
  • 46 to 55 – 18.8%
  • 56 to 65 – 24.7%
  • Over 65 – 19.3%
I can only go off what I can see. There is a much younger crowd at City now, where I am in the ground
 
I didn’t go yesterday.

I’ve only got 9 more no go games before I lose my season ticket.

Thank you Khaldoon, Soriano, Danny Wilson, and the other bulletproof directors who can miss as many matches as they want without the threat of having their season tickets taken off them. Not that they’ve got season tickets or pay for their padded and heated match day seats in the directors box.
 
The close to half being 19% from 18 to 35 (above) so less than that for 18 to 34?

Makes no sense?


There are conflicting figures but the main metric is anecdotal in as much what you can see with your own eyes. There are very few teenage fans going together with their mates (There are some) but this isn't going to build the next generation of blues.

If Chelsea's average age is 59 we wont be far shy of that number in a few years time.

If you're old enough you can remember cinemas being ramped to the gills on a Saturday, people could never have envisioned their demise but it happened.
 
There are conflicting figures but the main metric is anecdotal in as much what you can see with your own eyes. There are very few teenage fans going together with their mates (There are some) but this isn't going to build the next generation of blues.

If Chelsea's average age is 59 we wont be far shy of that number in a few years time.

If you're old enough you can remember cinemas being ramped to the gills on a Saturday, people could never have envisioned their demise but it happened.
The cinemas were overtaken by newer technology
 
The cinemas were overtaken by newer technology

They were but they were at the time ubiquitous they were ever present they were a talking point in school.

Things get replaced but in football crowds if you replace local pride and tribalism you are left with the cinema atmosphere and attendances over time will plummet because people are not attached to it.
 
That's where I am, there are 2 young people in the block where I sit, both of these young people attend with their parents.

As an aside I never once ever went to a football match with my mam, not once not ever. I went with my mates every time.
Same about going to match with parents but these are different times. A few years ago my kids went in early while I was finishing my pint in City Sq. Got a telling off from a steward saying that kids under 14 weren't allowed in on their own. I used to go to Maine Rd with my mates when we were still at junior school.
The South Stand bars are packed with youths, not kids admittedly. But there are literally 1000's of them in the Family Stand
 
They were but they were at the time ubiquitous they were ever present they were a talking point in school.

Things get replaced but in football crowds if you replace local pride and tribalism you are left with the cinema atmosphere and attendances over time will plummet because people are not attached to it.
City have never had regular crowds as big in their history. Didn't every league game have an attendance of over 50k last season?
 
My guess regarding the 45 day rule is that the club are wanting to process all the refunds for a game together so that means the earliest it can be is the first working day after the match. If games can be exchanged from 21 days prior and there’s a potential 5 day wait after a game (when 2x bank holidays and a weekend are together) then that’s 26 days before money might be sent, so around 30 days.

Perhaps it’s cheaper to do a batch rather than individually as people seem to be expecting. That said I can see the timeline probably reducing over time. Maybe crediting accounts (to redeem against foods or clothing or asking for a refund at the end of the season) would be cheaper rather than sending actual money every game.
That's what I said earlier, they'll be running a script manually at set times. We used to do it for numerous clients.
 
Same about going to match with parents but these are different times. A few years ago my kids went in early while I was finishing my pint in City Sq. Got a telling off from a steward saying that kids under 14 weren't allowed in on their own. I used to go to Maine Rd with my mates when we were still at junior school.
The South Stand bars are packed with youths, not kids admittedly. But there are literally 1000's of them in the Family Stand


These ARE different times mate, the youngsters today still engage but they do it digitally. Clubs need to make a huge effort to bring them in and get them genuinely involved.

Here's an eye watering stat for everyone, in 1968 the average age for a season ticket holder was 17 over at the swamp, by 2008 it had risen to 40.

Clubs don't really want the hassle of groups of teenagers going to the matches and probably neither do the police, so the view that having an atmosphere like the odeon would cause less trouble (Might be right) it ends up being sanitised and a hobby youngsters wouldn't be interested in anyway.
 
Not really because I was respectful to the Wednesday fans around me and tried to blend in.

I wasn’t wearing a half’n’half scarf (the Derby the other week had more h’n’h scarves than I’ve ever seen before, clearly not City fans because no City fan would ever wear ‘UNITED’ in red+bkack around their necks), I wasn't wearing City’s half of the h’n’h scarf on show to the annoyance of Wednesday fans around me, I wasn’t wearing a City scarf or City shirt to anger the Weds fans, I didn’t take a Sheffield United club shop bag into Hillsborough to take the piss and make the Weds fans want to rip my head off (has happened with a dickhead with a Rag club shop bag at the Etihad), I wasn’t a wearing football shirt of another club (I’ve seen visitors wearing Hajduk Split, Celtic, Bahia, Albania, River Plate, Mexico, Real Madrid - clearly headlining to everyone who can see them that they aren’t there for City - shirts in our ground and seen a photo on here of one wearing a United shirt in a derby), I wasn’t falling over seats pre-game to film City warming up, I wasn’t screaming City players’ names to get their attention through the game, I didn’t get there early to sit on the halfway line and ask the season ticket holder whose seat it was if he’d sit somewhere else and then act like a moody wanker when he said ‘no chance’ or get there early and sit with six mates even though they weren’t our seats and ask the season ticket holders whose seats they were to move elsewhere and act like a moody wankers when they said ‘no chance’ (regular occurrence on CL nights at the Etihad), my Father didn’t get clippers out and start cutting my hair, I didn’t get excited when City attacked, I didn’t anything beteeen cheer to goad Wednesday fans around me when City scored (happened loads of times at the Etihad when the opposition’s scored, resulting in fights breaking out), I didn’t look around at the home fans around me with a smile on my face when City scored, I didn’t film the City goalscorer, I didn’t get visibly excited when the ball went to my favourite City player, I wasn’t filming through the game talking to the camera, I didn’t stay sat in my seat looking visibly gutted when Wednesday scored, I didn’t get the tickets from a ticket tout website which is a plague to football these days as there are simply too many of them in swathes across stadiums (the Weds fan who tickets we had is our mate who went on holiday), we even joined in with a chant about SheffU getting relegated on the day.

We acted in a way that had the Wednesday fans shaking our our hands after the game and said we’d be welcome back any time. Rather than where I’ve seen these tourists getting twatted by City fans at the Etihad for acting like cunts.

I have a different tourist sat next to me every week at City. There have been a few times where I have been able to tell they’re a fan of the opposition but I make it so uncomfortable for them that they haven’t shown it too much… one Bayern fan ended up giving me a Bayern pin badge after the game as we shook hands as he’d been sound all game. Other times I’ve hated every second of being sat next to them as they’ve been itching for the opposition to score/win or have looked gutted when City scored (which made me shout at one against Brighton and he didn’t come back for the second half).
I’ve not experienced any of this in my 35 years as a ST holder. Sure, we have the so called tourists near us but they have all loved the team & the game. Nice to speak to them & spread the word.
When I go to away games I sit with Blues. At home there are loads of young kids - blues - so future looks good.
 
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City have never had regular crowds as big in their history. Didn't every league game have an attendance of over 50k last season?

Well if we go back far enough we can say our population has doubled and in Manchester trebled, it still doesn't change the fact that there are less and less youngsters going with their friends to the football.

If City blink and fall through a trapdoor at any time the fate that Sheffield Wednesday and Coventry awaits.

Football is now an event it isn't cultural to many that attend now, in time CTID will just be a gimmicky advertising slogan to sell more half and half scarves.
 
Well if we go back far enough we can say our population has doubled and in Manchester trebled, it still doesn't change the fact that there are less and less youngsters going with their friends to the football.

If City blink and fall through a trapdoor at any time the fate that Sheffield Wednesday and Coventry awaits.

Football is now an event it isn't cultural to many that attend now, in time CTID will just be a gimmicky advertising slogan to sell more half and half scarves.
Kids dont really go anywhere with their mates anymore.
 

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