Cheers - I'm not backing this list full out. My point is that any random list of top P/L right backs won't include Nunes... because he's not a top right back.That is a mad list. I’d swap him for Timber and maybe James if he could stay fit, but the rest are either too old, wingbacks, bang average or unproven.
He provided 8 assists all from RB last season in a team playing well below par, only bettered by Savinho with 10Nunes isn't a natural RB - he's been asked to fill in at that position and he's done OK mostly.
At RB, Nunes' strength is defensive solidity. He's a very capable defender, he's above average size and will bully smaller attackers, and he can read the game defensively - getting into position at least most of the time.
Nune's weaknesses are - over aggression when not called for. Giving away needless fouls, sometimes deep in our half leading to dangerous set piece opportunities.
Another, weakness of Nunes, is that he'll once a game or more, make some bonehead pass/tackle/whatever, that instantly leads to a major goal scoring opportunity for the opposition.
And, Nunes is not good at all going forward. If we're facing a side where we have most of the ball, we need gifted passers/driplers at as many positions as we can afford in order to break a parked bus - and Nunes is a liability in this regard.
There's a lot to disagree with there,most of it really ,but not good going forward? really, no idea how you can come to that conclusion. Most people that criticise him come up with exactly the opposite ,good going forward weak defensively, though in my opinion that again is based on his early days they're not current.Nunes isn't a natural RB - he's been asked to fill in at that position and he's done OK mostly.
At RB, Nunes' strength is defensive solidity. He's a very capable defender, he's above average size and will bully smaller attackers, and he can read the game defensively - getting into position at least most of the time.
Nune's weaknesses are - over aggression when not called for. Giving away needless fouls, sometimes deep in our half leading to dangerous set piece opportunities.
Another, weakness of Nunes, is that he'll once a game or more, make some bonehead pass/tackle/whatever, that instantly leads to a major goal scoring opportunity for the opposition.
And, Nunes is not good at all going forward. If we're facing a side where we have most of the ball, we need gifted passers/driplers at as many positions as we can afford in order to break a parked bus - and Nunes is a liability in this regard.
We agree to disagree then.There's a lot to disagree with there,most of it really ,but not good going forward? really, no idea how you can come to that conclusion. Most people that criticise him come up with exactly the opposite ,good going forward weak defensively, though in my opinion that again is based on his early days there not current.
It’s definitely a horses for courses thing though.Cheers - I'm not backing this list full out. My point is that any random list of top P/L right backs won't include Nunes... because he's not a top right back.
I value Nunes as a squad player - but as a candidate/favorite to start at RB... no way he's near good enough for a side hoping to win the P/L.
When was his last error leading to a goal ?We agree to disagree then.
Nunes isn't gifted with the ability to dribble past most opponents. Nunes can't make a consistent killer pass. When in a crossing position, Nunes isn't above average, but he's OK.
Whereas on defense, Nunes works his ass off. Is at least mostly in position. And one-on-one mostly comes out on top.
Nune's weaknesses on defense are the occasional bonehead unnecessary foul, and even worse, a ridiculously poor passing decision, leading to a major scoring opportunity for our opponents (Stones had this same problem but overcame it).
Hell, it's been argued - though I disagree - that Lewis is our first choice, and best, RB... another player not a natural RB asked to play out of position.
Bottom line - we really need a better right back. If you think otherwise... well, I've cited all the facts and you're free to disagree - however much I disagree with you.
Brighton penalty probably.When was his last error leading to a goal ?
Well, that's fucking jinxed it ;-)When was his last error leading to a goal ?
Jurrien Timber (Arsenal) – 82%It’s definitely a horses for courses thing though.
Nunes has the skillset to be a top right back. Whether he can cut out the brain farts will determine whether we will keep him long term.
There aren’t any decent right backs on the market at the moment, so I can see why we stuck with what we have.
If Khusanov and Nunes keep improving at right back and pushing each other for the starting shirt, we may have two of the best right backs in the league.
Looking at the right backs that started in the PL this weekend, there aren’t many that I would want to buy to replace Nunes. Timber and James, yes. Kayode? Maybe.
I simply don’t know enough about the Bournemouth or Sunderland right backs, Jiminez and Hume.
I wouldn’t take any of Neco Williams, Wieffer, Trippier, Walker, Bogle, Munoz (WB), O’Brien, Doherty, Castagne, Porro, Cash, Bradley, Dalot/Amad, Scarles/Wan Bissaka.
Fair enough, thinking about it I don't think I've seen anything from that game, didn't see it and didn't bother watching the highlights :)Brighton penalty probably.
When was his last completely unnecessary foul deep in our side leading to a dangerous free kick? When was his last extremely poor pass intercepted leading to defensive chaos? How often does he make these mistakes? Do you honestly think that this isn't a problem? That Nunes is A-OK as a starter for a side hoping to challenge for the P/L title?When was his last error leading to a goal ?
We get it, you don't like Nunes. Most of your arguments can be used for any player in any teamNunes isn't a natural RB - he's been asked to fill in at that position and he's done OK mostly.
At RB, Nunes' strength is defensive solidity. He's a very capable defender, he's above average size and will bully smaller attackers, and he can read the game defensively - getting into position at least most of the time.
Nune's weaknesses are - over aggression when not called for. Giving away needless fouls, sometimes deep in our half leading to dangerous set piece opportunities.
Another, weakness of Nunes, is that he'll once a game or more, make some bonehead pass/tackle/whatever, that instantly leads to a major goal scoring opportunity for the opposition.
And, Nunes is not good at all going forward. If we're facing a side where we have most of the ball, we need gifted passers/driplers at as many positions as we can afford in order to break a parked bus - and Nunes is a liability in this regard.
Not at all. I actually like Nunes as a squad player. Not as a starter. And yet, he is our first choice RB for now... and for me... that's a big problem.We get it, you don't like Nunes. Most of your arguments can be used for any player in any team
Go on then show me the stats, and also show me them compared to every other RB in the leagueNot at all. I actually like Nunes as a squad player. Not as a starter.
And, if my arguments are bullshit, then stats will prove otherwise.
Yes I do, especially when we has Khusonov for games when we need different attributes. Better than liverpools options at right back by some distance.When was his last completely unnecessary foul deep in our side leading to a dangerous free kick? When was his last extremely poor pass intercepted leading to defensive chaos? How often does he make these mistakes? Do you honestly think that this isn't a problem? That Nunes is A-OK as a starter for a side hoping to challenge for the P/L title?
Awesome.Go on then show me the stats, and also show me them compared to every other RB in the league
An awesome argument. Completely free of facts in support of your conclusion.This the same guy who wrote the equivalent of War and Peace telling us all how shit The Don was and signing him was a mistake because he couldn’t use his feet like Eddie?
Yeah, think I’ll pass on his words of wisdom, ta.
I like him, that’s the only conclusion I need to draw. I don’t tend to waste time with people obsessed with stats to make an argument.An awesome argument. Completely free of facts in support of your conclusion.
FFS - if I'm dead wrong... as you suggest - surely you can provide a better rebuttal.
You have used 1 website, sqauwka I think. Did I say I had stats, no. I am of the old school view and use my eyes not stats. Stats are helpful but can be misleading, for example David Silva never got the assists and stats his play warranted as he played the pass before the assist or moved in a way that allowed others to do so. So with my eyes the only player I think I have seen on the PL this year that has been better at right back, is Timber and then its a close thing as Arsenal are a lot more negative in their set-up so they don't expose the defence as much. But you have your view, fair enough, just you don't have to continuously state it, especially when a player has had such an excellent game at the weekendAwesome.
I've already provided several lists of top right backs in the P/L. Nunes appeared as number 10 in one of those lists.
Go ahead and provide your list of top right backs in the P/L. Where does Nunes appear in your list? If Nunes isn't top 5 at least in your list - do you still think that Nunes is good enough?
What do you think are Nunes' strengths and weaknesses - and given that assessment, how do you conclude that Nunes is adequate/good/excellent/perfect as a right back for any side hoping to finish first in the P/L?