Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

The Fat el Hombre said:
Ooooh great comeback.

This bullshit has already been called out on this. Hamas aren't killing kids, that's an israeli thing they get a kick out of for some fucking deranged reason.

Hamas have executed terrorists who israel funds and arms and were killing palestinians. Zionaist propagandists are making out as though hamas are going round killing everyone. As you're proving, gullible misinformed morons are parroting that bullshit despite considerable evidence to the contrary. It seems to be one of the few remaining lies and propaganda bullshit israel has left at the moment to con gullible morons yet again (until they make up their next piece of bullshit and said gullible morons will go around parroting that).

Evidence:

Videos show fresh evidence of Israeli support for Gaza militia Sky News

Israel-backed gangs kill Palestinian journalist in Gaza City TRT

Israel-backed militia groups potentially threaten new peace plan for Gaza Guardian

Guns, cash and American aid: Investigation reveals Israel's support for Gaza militia Sky News

Same as when israeli backed gangs were stealing the aid, which israeli propagandists said was hamas stealing the aid (which was another load of bollocks you no doubt gobbled up, turned out to be israeli lies and bullshit as usual - "No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say" - New York Times)
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www.jpost.com

Benjamin Netanyahu repeating old mistakes arming Gaza militias | The Jerusalem Post

The decision to arm the Rafah-centered militia may have been procedurally flawed, and reflects a long-standing Israeli doctrine.
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Strange exchange here, Robinson fishing for extremism and gets nothing but the opposite.

9:20 onwards - notice at the end the IDF/Israeli Police prevent both from walking into a certain area because Britain has recognised Palestine. At first Robinson believes that it's because the interviewed man is Muslim but it isn't.

Ridiculous retaliatory pettiness.

 



This post from August 25 Jared, Trumps SIL. on waterfront property first you have to move the people out.
I recommend one of Trumps golf courses over all the buried bodies “Israel doesn’t want people to move back in there after it’s rebuilt” A scorched earth policy
 
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Witkoff tells 60 minutes the "Master plan has been worked on by Jared for years..."

Why isn't anyone picking this up? This open up conspiracy theory lines that Bibi and Trump have been planning to destroy Gaza and the genocide of Palestinians for their own political/monetary gain.

Oh yeah. Probably because anyone that dares dig deeper will be murdered or worse labelled anti-Semitic.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
Last night the Israeli parliament voted to annex the West Bank, the future of Gaza and the West Bank is in jeopardy
Only an international force can stop the acquisition of even more land by Israel
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Which Trump will want Europe to pay for whilst he builds Trump Gaza.
 


America is paying billions of tax dollars for it, us not so much taxpayers money only intellectual property of the armed forces by training the IDF, and the daily flights over Gaza, using the Akrotiri base in Cypress
I don’t know what we are doing on the ground in Israel. I can only guess bomb disposal or clearing rubble ? we should be observing the ceasefire in Gaza which seems to be holding:)
 
It's been over a century in the planning. Compare the Balfour Declaration (1917) on a national home in Palestine for the Jewish people "it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine" with what Balfour wrote two years later (in the context of duplicity in promising irreconcilable things to different people):

"For in Palestine we do not propose even to go through the form of consulting the wishes of the present inhabitants of the country, though the American Commission has been going through the form of asking what they are. The four Great Powers are committed to Zionism. And Zionism, be it right or wrong, good or bad, is rooted in age-long traditions, in present needs, in future hopes, of far profounder import than the desires and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who now inhabit that ancient land."

Now does that sound like it was right or wrong? Britain's policy was always a bit genocidal.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
Dread to think about the heritage buried under and blown to bits in the desert sand of
Gaza and the West Bank
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Be fair. The IDF warned they were going to obliterate the heritage.

www.bbc.co.uk

The frantic race to protect historic treasures from Israeli bombs - BBC News

As Israel continues its bombardment, Palestinians are trying to protect what remains of Gaza’s ancient artefacts
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And destroying Palestinian heritage in occupied territories has long gone on.
 
Vic said:
Be fair. The IDF warned they were going to obliterate the heritage.

www.bbc.co.uk

The frantic race to protect historic treasures from Israeli bombs - BBC News

As Israel continues its bombardment, Palestinians are trying to protect what remains of Gaza’s ancient artefacts
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And destroying Palestinian heritage in occupied territories has long gone on.
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and the rest ....


Even within the region’s extraordinary archaeological landscape, Sebastia stands apart for the remarkably diverse range of civilizational remains found within its soil — only some of which come from the Israelites. First settled by the Canaanites as far back as 4,000 B.C.E., Sebastia is among the oldest continuously inhabited places in the area. According to the Bible, King Omri purchased the land for 150 pounds of silver thousands of years ago. The city, located at the crossroads of one trade route from the mountainous north and another from the fertile Jordan Valley, became a cultural and commercial hub. The Assyrians, Babylonians, and Persians then took turns conquering and ruling the region. In 331 B.C.E., Alexander the Great destroyed and rebuilt the city of Samaria. Some three hundred years later, the Romans seized the land, and Emperor Augustus (Greek name: Sebastos) handed it to the Judean King Herod, who renamed it in the emperor’s honor. Over the next 1,500 years, Sebastia saw the rise and bloody fall of the Byzantines, Abbasids, Crusaders, Ayyubids, Mamluks, and Ottomans.


They just bulldoze it or tunnel under it ....


The most glaring contradiction to Shragai’s argument is the damage caused by Israeli excavations. According to Abu El-Haj, Israelis have used bulldozers at digs to quickly “get down to the earlier strata, which are saturated with national significance.” In one dig she participated in, organized by the Department of Archaeology at Tel Aviv University, she claimed that bulldozers “summarily destroyed” the remains above the layer of interest. Poser also recorded the use of tunneling — “considered bad practice by most archaeologists, who ordinarily excavate from the topsoil down, removing each layer one by one to avoid conflating time periods” — at an excavation led by the settler organization Elad in East Jerusalem. After we spoke in his office, Ghazal led us through the village and down a staircase to a graveyard of Roman monuments shrouded in weeds and moss: an eroded lion’s head, a cracked coffin, fragments of a sarcophagus half-buried in dirt. There, in 1979, Israeli authorities attempted to transfer a portion of the stone ruins out of Palestinian control. The extraction ultimately failed, leaving the artifacts in pieces at the bottom of a pit alongside the abandoned Israeli equipment.

From this excellent piece about the 'weaponisation of archeology' by Jasper Nathaniel .... the journalist who filmed the woman being clubbed by a settler the other day.




www.thedriftmag.com

In Ruins

Archaeological Warfare in the West Bank
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First came across it via this episode of the world's most moral podcast. 15 mins to skip the intros

 
We've got Guardiola said:
Strange exchange here, Robinson fishing for extremism and gets nothing but the opposite.

9:20 onwards - notice at the end the IDF/Israeli Police prevent both from walking into a certain area because Britain has recognised Palestine. At first Robinson believes that it's because the interviewed man is Muslim but it isn't.

Ridiculous retaliatory pettiness.

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Does he interview rabbis about the genocidal bits of the Torah? "When the Lord (Yahweh) your God (Elohim) brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you — and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally."
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
Thousands of years pass by and Netanyahu and Putins governments are positively prehistoric still living in the dark ages where you smash and grab your neighbours into submission
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Shlomo Sand's book "The Invention of the Land of Israel" (2012) is a fascinating work. As an Israeli soldier in 1967 he recounts how an old Arab man tried to return to his home and his comrades tortured and murdered him. And that his comrades did not see occupation as trespass but going into land that belonged to them. After that he deconstructs the myths of the scriptures (such as Deuteronomy 7 - destroy the enemy peoples completely - but then don't intermarry with the people you've destroyed). He reckons the "exile" / diaspora of the Palestinian Jews in the first century AD didn't happen - and that Ben Gurion wrote in 1917 about "The Origins of the Fellahs" suggesting that most of Palestine's "local peasants" were the "authentic offspring of the ancient Hebrews".

www.google.co.uk

The Invention of the Land of Israel

What is a homeland? When does it become a national territory? Why have so many people been willing to die for such places throughout the twentieth century? What is the essence of the Promised Land?Following the acclaimed and controversial The Invention of the Jewish People, Shlomo Sand examines...
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Jewish figures across the globe call on UN and world leaders to sanction Israel:

"We have not forgotten that so many of the laws, charters, and conventions established to safeguard and protect all human life were created in response to the Holocaust,” the signatories write. “Those safeguards have been relentlessly violated by israel.

We bow our heads in immeasurable sorrow as the evidence accumulates that Israel’s actions will be judged to have met the legal definition of genocide,” the letter reads.

Our solidarity with Palestinians is not a betrayal of Judaism, then, but a fulfillment of it,” the signatories write. “When our sages taught that to destroy one life is to destroy an entire world, they did not carve exceptions for Palestinians. We shall not rest until this ceasefire carries forward into an end of occupation and apartheid."

www.theguardian.com

Jewish figures across the globe call on UN and world leaders to sanction Israel

Exclusive: In an open letter, Israeli ex-officials, artists and intellectuals say ‘unconscionable’ actions in Gaza amount to genocide
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