Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

The Fat el Hombre said:
Jewish figures across the globe call on UN and world leaders to sanction Israel:

"We have not forgotten that so many of the laws, charters, and conventions established to safeguard and protect all human life were created in response to the Holocaust,” the signatories write. “Those safeguards have been relentlessly violated by israel.

We bow our heads in immeasurable sorrow as the evidence accumulates that Israel’s actions will be judged to have met the legal definition of genocide,” the letter reads.

Our solidarity with Palestinians is not a betrayal of Judaism, then, but a fulfillment of it,” the signatories write. “When our sages taught that to destroy one life is to destroy an entire world, they did not carve exceptions for Palestinians. We shall not rest until this ceasefire carries forward into an end of occupation and apartheid."

www.theguardian.com

Jewish figures across the globe call on UN and world leaders to sanction Israel

Exclusive: In an open letter, Israeli ex-officials, artists and intellectuals say ‘unconscionable’ actions in Gaza amount to genocide
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A similar campaign, with a petition to support Jews calling for "Palestine Action" (action re Palestine)

secure.avaaz.org

Stand with Jewish voices for justice in Palestine

Members of the jewish community from across the globe are calling for sanctions on Israel. Join them here!
secure.avaaz.org secure.avaaz.org
 
Ignore if you don't want historic context for some of the west's support for Israel...

Today's book is
The Origins of Christian Zionism: Lord Shaftesbury and Evangelical Support for a Jewish Homeland by Donald M Lewis (2010)

A lot of speculation about the "end times" (and the Millennium - the thousand-year reign of Christ) intensified because of the godless French Revolution. You could apply what Lewis says about that to some modern movements: "Millenarianism as neurotic reaction to social disturbance expressed in the rantings of marginalized and violent people has been an attractive interpretative grid…”

But (trying to understand the rise of British Zionism and what's become Christian Zionism in the States),
George Stanley Faber was an early 19th century Anglican vicar. He cited Revelation 16:12 "And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.” For him, the Ottoman Empire was the Euphrates; the kings of the east were the Jews with a hint of a return to Jewish homeland - but in 1600 someone else (Thomas Brightman) had the kings of the east as the return of the ten lost tribes of Israel crossing a dried-up Euphrates.

Bizarrely, Britain was to be agent of this restoration, based on Isaiah 18:2, “That sendeth ambassadors by the sea, even in vessels of bulrushes upon the waters, saying, Go, ye swift messengers, to a nation scattered and peeled, to a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden down, whose land the rivers have spoiled!” - bizarre because of the context of verse 1: "Woe to the land shadowing with wings, which is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia; that sendeth ambassadors by the sea..."

As the Zionists now don't like discussing what Zionism means (not least what are their territorial ambitions), everything I'm reading casts doubt on the claim that even if the Jews moved to the land of Canaan, they never occupied all of it.
 
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Israeli source ynet reporting that israelis are aware that the horrors of their war crimes could be front page news again when international journalists are allowed into Gaza, so they're openly discussing "strategy sessions" and "explanatory materials" so they can spread propaganda:

"In recent weeks, senior Israeli officials and security agencies have been holding intensive discussions about how to manage Gaza’s imminent reopening to the world. With international forces expected to enter the Strip to assist in locating the hostages and the bodies that Hamas claims are no longer in its possession, Israel is bracing for the arrival of foreign journalists who will, for the first time, see the destruction with their own eyes rather than through Hamas-produced footage."

"Another official said there are still ways to handle the situation. “This time, delegations of journalists will enter Gaza under the guidance of Foreign Ministry and IDF Spokesperson officials, escorted by commanders who know the area,” he said."

www.ynetnews.com

Israel braces for 'propaganda war' as global journalists prepare to enter Gaza

Israel is preparing a coordinated media strategy ahead of global journalists’ arrival in Gaza, including IDF-escorted tours and visual evidence to show how Hamas built terror infrastructure within civilian areas and used residents as shields
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Expect a load more lies and bullshit from israel, but what horrors await?

Israeli soldier explaining here how he drove his bulldozer:

"The former soldier has spoken publicly about the psychological trauma endured by Israeli troops in Gaza. In a testimony to the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, in June, Zaken said that on many occasions, soldiers had to “run over terrorists, dead and alive, in the hundreds.”

“Everything squirts out,” he added." CNN
 
I’ve read many horror reports on line that are to awful to post on here. The sad part is it’s impossible to un-see the destruction of Gaza and we have witnessed the genocide of what was already a very young population in the 21century, history will look back on this massacre and judge us all for doing nothing to stop it.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
I’ve read many horror reports on line that are to awful to post on here. The sad part is it’s impossible to un-see the destruction of Gaza and we have witnessed the genocide of what was already a very young population in the 21century, history will look back on this massacre and judge us all for doing nothing to stop it.
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Presumably you saw the videos from October 7 that are also too awful to post on here. Maybe you can watch this one, Hamas continuing to break the agreement by releasing all hostages by an agreed time. Now they are pretending to find a body that they have buried and it's already someone that was found by the IDF a long time ago and buried. This is who you are supporting, blood thirsty terrorists who have arguably found more useful idiots in the West than any other terrorist organisation ever has. Conned you all that they didn't have tunnels, conned you all they didn't use hospitals, schools, mosques homes etc as places of warfare, conned you all their was a famine, conned you all there was a genocide, conned you all full stop.
 


Tragic Update from Gaza: Civil Defense teams have recovered and relocated 42 unidentified victims from Al-Katiba Square, west of Gaza City, preserving remains to aid identification and bring answers to families.

In just two days, a new mass grave was dug in central Gaza for 104 more victims abducted and killed by Israel during the ongoing genocide. Severe mutilation made identification impossible.

The remains were handed over by Israel as part of an exchange deal.
 


The Brigades said the planned handover has been postponed due to Israeli violations, warning that any further escalation by Israel could obstruct ongoing search and excavation efforts, further delaying the recovery of captives’ remains

Twenty five minutes ago another dead Israeli captive was recovered in a tunnel by the Gaza recovery brigade.
They are refusing to handover the body because of Israeli air strikes
 
Manc Born & Bred said:
Presumably you saw the videos from October 7 that are also too awful to post on here. Maybe you can watch this one, Hamas continuing to break the agreement by releasing all hostages by an agreed time. Now they are pretending to find a body that they have buried and it's already someone that was found by the IDF a long time ago and buried. This is who you are supporting, blood thirsty terrorists who have arguably found more useful idiots in the West than any other terrorist organisation ever has. Conned you all that they didn't have tunnels, conned you all they didn't use hospitals, schools, mosques homes etc as places of warfare, conned you all their was a famine, conned you all there was a genocide, conned you all full stop.
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Excuse my scepticism but why have Hamas got an Israeli bulldozer - normally used for demolishing homes, schools and hospitals?

Even if true, why should Israel's response to Hamas moving one dead Israeli be to kill many more Palestinians?
 
Manc Born & Bred said:
Presumably you saw the videos from October 7 that are also too awful to post on here. Maybe you can watch this one, Hamas continuing to break the agreement by releasing all hostages by an agreed time. Now they are pretending to find a body that they have buried and it's already someone that was found by the IDF a long time ago and buried. This is who you are supporting, blood thirsty terrorists who have arguably found more useful idiots in the West than any other terrorist organisation ever has. Conned you all that they didn't have tunnels, conned you all they didn't use hospitals, schools, mosques homes etc as places of warfare, conned you all their was a famine, conned you all there was a genocide, conned you all full stop.
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Some people just refuse to accept this no matter the truth of it. Hamas took over 250 civilians from the scene of their sickening massacre and only 20 were ultimately released alive.
Israel took 2,000 pow's (there is a difference between hostages and pows) yet most of them were released alive.
If you were impartial, which side would you say treated its' captives better?
 
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