The Labour Government

hampshireblue said:
I can't be doing with his sactamonious and condescending attitude to many of the people on here. Nothing he/she writes is from anywhere close to a balanced position.

He must be a fucking joy to live with!
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Balance is hard to come by in fairness, look at the last few pages of this thread. Whataboutery and deflection everywhere.
 
hilts said:
You've said that before

Bit pointless to keep repeating it. Very pointless really, pointless.

Odd thing your repetitive and pointless defence of a lying poster, actually its not odd we know your character flaws very well by now.
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Loving your need to annoy others in random player threads now your barbs don’t land here anymore.

It’s almost as if debate isn’t what you want, merely to wind up others. Once people realise that, they cease to respond. :-)
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Loving your need to annoy others in random player threads now your barbs don’t land here anymore.

It’s almost as if debate isn’t what you want, merely to wind up others. Once people realise that, they cease to respond. :-)
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Except they do, including you, you daft twat:-)

You think its a wind up because you cannot accept different opinions, thats your massive flaw. I think Grealish is a good player and comment on the current govt and those with a laughable amount of bias. Yeah thats really odd. Pmsl.

I have plenty of discussions in here with people who are adult enough not to resort to the normal deflection, whataboutery and bias. You tried to quit because of it but were too weak to see it through. I just call it out. Whereas after the flounce and laughable creeping back in you keep posting trying to annoy others but you're really really bad at it.

Normal you, now you can go back to pretending you dont read my posts, ya needy fucker:-)

Ttfn
 
BTH said:
I don't recall any Tory ministers resigning. Perhaps you can provide a list.
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I said she called for dismissals. A Trade Unionist too!!

Off the top of my head she called for Johnson, Hancock, Zahawi to go. There were many more. Every bit of Tory sleaze she was wheeled out like a broken record calling on ministers to be sacked.

I’m not a Tory btw.
 
hilts said:
Except they do, including you, you daft twat:-)

You think its a wind up because you cannot accept different opinions, thats your massive flaw. I think Grealish is a good player and comment on the current govt and those with a laughable amount of bias. Yeah thats really odd. Pmsl.

I have plenty of discussions in here with people who are adult enough not to resort to the normal deflection, whataboutery and bias. You tried to quit because of it but were too weak to see it through. I just call it out. Whereas after the flounce and laughable creeping back in you keep posting trying to annoy others but you're really really bad at it.

Normal you, now you can go back to pretending you dont read my posts, ya needy fucker:-)

Ttfn
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They get fewer each month as you alienate more and more.

Your nihilist mindset gets nobody anywhere.

At no point did I say I didn’t read your posts, merely that they confirm that you’re a dick.
 
hampshireblue said:
You and I seem to manage it most of the time.
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I think what needs to happen is this

Labour will be discussed a lot as they're the current govt. Their supporters need to deal with that, the tories are irrelevant. Reform are a worry but they ain't in power and wont be unless labour fuck up real bad. At this point everyone has a stance on Farage and Reform and it wont change.
Is calling labour out for everything fair after being in just over a year? Absolutely not, it is a nonsense stance.
But if they havent had enough time to do a lot of good things then one cannot, if being fair, continually say well they ain't as bad as the tories. 14yrs those fuckers had to do many bad things.
You have to accept you can't be as bad in a year as someone else has been bad in 14 years.
Maybe we shouldn't compare and play sides and just discuss now and the future?
We both know on here this ain't ever happening, its predominantly a forum for political spin. Which ironically most people seem to hate.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
They get fewer each month as you alienate more and more.

Your nihilist mindset gets nobody anywhere.

At no point did I say I didn’t read your posts, merely that they confirm that you’re a dick.
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Your counting how many replies I get,? bit unnerving that. Just put me on ignore fella, you dont like blunt unbiased views that dont fit in with your world views. It doesnt bother me.
If your honest just search my posts there are plenty that dont fit your claims. But if you can't or dont want to see it thats up to you.
You mentioned previously this forum wasn't great for you mentally. Im being sincere here put me on ignore and maybe even try again at not bothering with the politics thread. It is a shit show.
When you spend your time defending liars just because you dont like the posters calling them that you need to consider what you're about at the moment.

Its just a football forum. Let's move on.
 
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The Future’s Blue! said:
At least he’s off the streets now. Time for a proper investigation on who ordered his release and how very body within the system failed to question it.
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According to the news these mistakes have doubled in a year, someone will end up dead if it continues. 250 I believe they said. Is it the quality of staff or the pressure they are under. From the outside it seems like such an easy thing not to cock up.
 
hilts said:
Your counting how many replies I get,? bit unnerving that. Just put me on ignore fella, you dont like blunt unbiased views that dont fit in with your world views. It doesnt bother me.
If your honest just search my posts there are plenty that dont fit your claims. But if can't or dont want to see it thats up to you.
You mentioned previously this forum wasn't great for you mentally. Im being sincere here put me on ignore and maybe even try again at not bothering with the politics thread. It is a shit show.
When you spend your time defending liars just because you dont like the posters calling them that you need to consider what you're about at the moment.

Its just a football forum. Let's move on.
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I have. You continue to prove my theory correct.

Your amateur psychology is embarrassing,
 
hilts said:
I think what needs to happen is this

Labour will be discussed a lot as they're the current govt. Their supporters need to deal with that, the tories are irrelevant. Reform are a worry but they ain't in power and wont be unless labour fuck up real bad. At this point everyone has a stance on Farage and Reform and it wont change.
Is calling labour out for everything fair after being in just over a year? Absolutely not, it is a nonsense stance.
But if they havent had enough time to do a lot of good things then one cannot, if being fair, continually say well they ain't as bad as the tories. 14yrs those fuckers had to do many bad things.
You have to accept you can't be as bad in a year as someone else has been bad in 14 years.
Maybe we shouldn't compare and play sides and just discuss now and the future?
We both know on here this ain't ever happening, its predominantly a forum for political spin. Which ironically most people seem to hate.
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I agree with almost every word.

I put out a comment about an article in The Times(a RW paper) saying there are lots of signs the economy is turning. For balance I would have expected the likes of BKB to at least acknowledge that that's a good thing. After all, every one of us wants the same outcome that the economy is strong and stable, people have somewhere to live etc etc, how we get there is the thing people have different views about.

It seems people want effective change yesterday, despite it having taken 14 years of being boiled like a frog to have got us where we are today (and some mistakes before that of course).

I want to see businesses being successful, profits being made and people being paid well. But when I see companies who moan endlessly about how government policy is hurting them whilst at the same time increasing profits and margins, but only one side of the equation being highlighted by the press, it's easy to see how people are hoodwinked into thinking the government are responsible for all their ills(except from immigrants of course).
 
hampshireblue said:
I agree with almost every word.

I put out a comment about an article in The Times(a RW paper) saying there are lots of signs the economy is turning. For balance I would have expected the likes of BKB to at least acknowledge that that's a good thing. After all, every one of us wants the same outcome that the economy is strong and stable, people have somewhere to live etc etc, how we get there is the thing people have different views about.

It seems people want effective change yesterday, despite it having taken 14 years of being boiled like a frog to have got us where we are today (and some mistakes before that of course).

I want to see businesses being successful, profits being made and people being paid well. But when I see companies who moan endlessly about how government policy is hurting them whilst at the same time increasing profits and margins, but only one side of the equation being highlighted by the press, it's easy to see how people are hoodwinked into thinking the government are responsible for all their ills(except from immigrants of course).
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Frustration is at the root of a lot of it, most people think themselves to be reasonable even when they're not but more dangerously they think they are right. What may start off as a debate from opposing views will often lead to friction, after all if you believe yourself to be sane, sensible and most importantly right then the other guy must be mad stupid and wrong. And no matter how many times you try and put them on the right track they're not having it. At that point you call em a ****:-)

The worst though are those who know they are wrong but wont admit it, on a football forum to a stranger. Usually its because their is history there or the thought of their 'side' being incompetent is not something they feel they can concede.

Everyone is flawed, some are just world champions at it.
 
hilts said:
According to the news these mistakes have doubled in a year, someone will end up dead if it continues. 250 I believe they said. Is it the quality of staff or the pressure they are under. From the outside it seems like such an easy thing not to cock up.
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It does doesn't it. I'm not familiar with the prison service but having had a bit of a read off the back of this incident, it wouldn't surprise me if it's one of those organisations that reaches the point where there is hardly anyone left who remembers what 'normal', let alone good, looks like so everyone including new recruits just become habituated into accepting really bad things happen because that's 'just the way it is'. When you hit that point all bets are off and all sorts of weird shit can happen.
 
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