Epstein / Andrew Mountbatten Windsor / Maxwell

[johnny crossan]

3 alleged encounters.
London, Maxwell’s apartment in New York and Epstein’s island

True, age of consent in NY is 17 and Florida is as you said earlier.

 

[fanatic1]

If ex-Prince Andrew had any sense of honour he should retire to a locked room with a single malt and a loaded revolver, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[remember arthur mann]

If ex-Prince Andrew had any sense of honour he should retire to a locked room with a single malt and a loaded revolver, but I'm not holding my breath.

My missus just said the same but not a chance, royalty are so thick skinned.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I think your congratulations are misplaced
Definition: An enthymematic argument is one that contains an unstated, implied premise that the audience is expected to understand and accept.

The rest of the world - including our family - play their part in shaping us but in the end we are on our own and face sole responsibility for all our actions.

It may have been that you expected me to understand but I did not, which is hardly surprising as the second paragraph in your post above now concedes that parents do play a part in shaping the character of their children, which appears to contradict what your previous post said, namely that The Queen and Prince Phillip bear no responsibility for his misconduct, which clearly in this instance arises from his character.

So whatever implied premise you were attempting to convey is confused and unclear.

 

[Gray]

If ex-Prince Andrew had any sense of honour he should retire to a locked room with a single malt and a loaded revolver, but I'm not holding my breath.

Probably best for him to bugger off abroad somewhere.

 

[carlosthejackal]

Got to admire the forelock tuggers on here , I’d imagine their knees and spine must fucking hurt after years of grovelling to these self entitled twats .

 

[Maintainin]

If ex-Prince Andrew had any sense of honour he should retire to a locked room with a single malt and a loaded revolver, but I'm not holding my breath.

...like corrupt Detective Trupo's last scene in American Gangster (movie) :-)

 

[Lowtower]

True, age of consent in NY is 17 and Florida is as you said earlier.

Mate

What you trying to do here?

You're just coming across as some weird sex offender defending ****.

 

[Lowtower]

 

[TinFoilHat]

 

[Scottyboi]

True, age of consent in NY is 17 and Florida is as you said earlier.

Why don't you just stfu trying to find a silver bullet when there isn't one.

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• The age of consent in the UK is 16.
• However, if someone under 18 is trafficked or exploited for sex, it is always illegal — even if they appear to consent.
• Under the Sexual Offences Act 2003, any sexual activity with a person under 18 involved in commercial sex or trafficking is considered child sexual exploitation or child trafficking, not prostitution.
• In other words:
  
  

  If someone under 18 is sold, exchanged, or coerced into sex, the law treats them as a victim of trafficking, never as a consenting participant.

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• The age of consent varies by state (usually 16–18).
• But under federal law (18 U.S.C. §1591, the Trafficking Victims Protection Act):
  
  

  Any person under 18 involved in a commercial sex act is automatically a victim of sex trafficking, regardless of whether they “consented” or not.

• So, there is no age of consent for a trafficked minor — it’s always a crime for anyone to engage in or profit from such acts.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

He needs to be on the register.

 

[Earlyriser]

Mate

What you trying to do here?

You're just coming across as some weird sex offender defending ****.

I think JC here must subscribe to the concept of the divine rights of royalty.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

I deleted my earlier reply having looked at the claims more carefully it seems Mountbatten was under suspicion in the 40s which puts the later allegations into context. Probably not an IRA fabrication then so apologies to MES.

Apology accepted - as you rightly mentioned in your now deleted post, as an Egghead I should know my stuff, thanks for re-enforcing that I do ;) lol

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Why don't you just stfu trying to find a silver bullet when there isn't one.

​

• The age of consent in the UK is 16.
• However, if someone under 18 is trafficked or exploited for sex, it is always illegal — even if they appear to consent.
• Under the Sexual Offences Act 2003, any sexual activity with a person under 18 involved in commercial sex or trafficking is considered child sexual exploitation or child trafficking, not prostitution.
• In other words:

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• The age of consent varies by state (usually 16–18).
• But under federal law (18 U.S.C. §1591, the Trafficking Victims Protection Act):
  
  
• So, there is no age of consent for a trafficked minor — it’s always a crime for anyone to engage in or profit from such acts.

For me, having sex with someone who was so conspicuously trafficked (like what else was she doing in the company of Epstein and Maxwell?) is more egregious than technical arguments about a few months here and there and which age of consent applies where.

He will have unquestionably concluded why she was there, and how she got there, and under what broad type of arrangement she was having sex with him. He simply cannot have thought she was there for any other reason or that her consent to it all was unequivocal and informed.

 

[Nightmare Walking]

I hope they put his job on LinkedIn, I am definitely applying for it.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Apology accepted - as you rightly mentioned in your now deleted post, as an Egghead I should know my stuff, thanks for re-enforcing that I do ;) lol

What’s this Egghead thing, mate?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I hope they put his job on LinkedIn, I am definitely applying for it.

Ten a day would fucking kill you, mate.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

True, age of consent in NY is 17 and Florida is as you said earlier.

Whilst she was legally of the age of consent, she was groomed and trafficked for the purpose of being sexually abused by very much older, rich and powerful men.

None of what happened to her is in any way okay.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Whilst she was legally of the age of consent, she was groomed and trafficked for the purpose of being sexually abused by very much older, rich and powerful men.

And Andrew will have been aware of this. Maybe not the details but certainly the overarching arrangement. Inconceivable he didn’t.