I don't believe the UAE funding a regional conflict to stop Iranian and Russian influence in the region is akin to comparing them to Nazi Germany, frankly.You are the one being stupid here because Nazi Germany also funded Franco and Mussolini or are you being selective with what you consider evil and what you consider "regional gamesmanship" or are you just a morally bankrupt dumb person?
Exactly! in his stupid response to my post he compared the actions of the UAE to the US funding the Mujadeen, first of all the Mujadeens were a trained fighting unit, secondly they were defending their land so basically the USA were funding the ethnic natives of that land against an invading Russian force, in this case the UAE are funding the invading pro-arab militia killing of the ethnic Sudanese CIVILIANS from their land, its not even apple and oranges, its apples and fucking concrete. How any logical thinking person could come up with that comparison in an attempt to pass of the actions of the UAE as gamesmanship is just absolutely ridiculous. Fucking dumb take.Funding a militia engaged in a civil war…. Fair enough, geopolitics (as you said).
Funding a militia who are committing genocide as part of their civil war…. Unacceptable.
I think we’re capable of applying nuance and reacting appropriately.
If the UAE are funding the RSF they should be in a position to deter such incidents.
in this case the UAE are funding the invading pro-arab militia
As I said, they are not as well known as the genocide in Gaza, and they don't appear to involve the complicity of the UK and US. I only mentioned situations currently categorised as genocide, but your point is soundThe situation in those countries varies but is well known, but I'd leave out North Korea as they are persecuting their own people and there isn't a global North Korean diaspora to protest on there behalf. If it's anti-Muslim persecution you can add in the treatment of Uighur Muslims in China. - Where are all the demonstrations of solidarity? And you missed Yemen where people are dying in a proxy war.
That would be easy if our majority shareholder wasn’t a politician. But he is, so it’s only natural.Weird how the blame stops once it reaches a stick to beat us with. How about we trace it back to the UK gov selling the arms to the UAE. Sudan has been a mess for over 20 years far as I can tell, yet the blame is laid at City’s feet.
For me, sport and politics should be kept separate.
very stupid boycott campaignThere are protests on the Ulghur issue most weeks across the country and a boycot campaign against companies who use products are produced by forced labour.
Are they all the right way up ?Correct
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I'm more concerned that people are only now working out that the UAE engages in geopolitical gamemanship including arming some less than moral people to achieve their aims.
Wait until you learn what Western countries have been doing in the rest of the world for about a thousand years. Or China, Japan, India, basically every regional power.
How naive are some people to the realities of the world? Wait until you work out who invented ISIS.
Its like everything these days, at least online, people jump to the extreme to make a point that has to be either black or whiteI don't believe the UAE funding a regional conflict to stop Iranian and Russian influence in the region is akin to comparing them to Nazi Germany, frankly.
Being a life long Manchester City fan does not mean I am associsted with UAE in anyway, I have never even been there. However agree wth your last sentence. While this is an extremely awful thing that has come to light, as another poster said, people must be very naive if they think the UAE are not probably involved in other awful things like many other countries, or of they are only realising that possibility now.That's the Spiderman meme effect there, you can't separate one from the other at this point. Only solution is to dissociate, been a nice run but we can't keep being attached to a morally corrupt government that has very little regard for the lives of the people of Sudan.
obvioulsy not to those that care about the situation with the Ulghurs.very stupid boycott campaign
You do know that the RSF comprises of arab militia from other radical pro arab supremacy groups in the region, right?Ah yes, the RSF. A Sudanese organisation stemming from a different Sudanese organisation, ran by a Sudanese General and who worked for the Sudanese Government in Sudan to administer Sudanese policy until their split a few years ago is "an invading militia"
Why? Uyghurs have been forced into prison camps without trial for years, and there’s even been questions about whether the Uyghur situation should be classed as a genocide.very stupid boycott campaign
The UAE ( Sheikh Mansour )have denied any involvement whatsoever in any of this. So looks like it was all a big misunderstanding eh?But it is?
The Sudanese military, who have also been accused of genocide and are financially supported by both Russia and Iran, are direct competitors to the UAE in terms of the resources there and Iran specifically have been in a long term proxy war with over control of the Persian Gulf, the world's major artery for trade.
Sheikh Mansour didn't wake up one day and decide he was going to randomly get involved in a civil war between two sides of a militia that initiated a coup then argued about who would take charge so started shooting at each other. It's an attempt to quell Iranian control in a major resource network.
That's politics. It's not right, but it isn't some novel event either. The US aren't funding Ukraine due to their love of freedom and liberty either. I'm surprised people are surprised.
Its like these weapons cannot be traced back to maker, buyer and then supplier.The UAE ( Sheikh Mansour )have denied any involvement whatsoever in any of this. So looks like it was all a big misunderstanding eh?
"Humanitarian Role: The UAE portrays itself as a humanitarian actor, emphasizing its status as a major aid donor to Sudan and claiming it works to alleviate suffering, not fuel violence.
No Arms Supplied: UAE officials have repeatedly denied providing arms to either of the warring parties in the Sudanese civil war (the SAF or the Rapid Support Forces, RSF)"
Im glad its all been cleared up. Wonder who it is then who's bought the weopens and supplied them which is resulting in this mass slaughter and Genocide.
The UN have designated some Uyghur groups as terrorists, and these groups came into contact with Islamic fundamentalists in other regions when China relaxed travel restrictions for a while, which allowed Muslims to make Hajj. Some of these groups have taken part in terrorist attacks within China.Why? Uyghurs have been forced into prison camps without trial for years, and there’s even been questions about whether the Uyghur situation should be classed as a genocide.
It's like a lockdown during the covid19 pandemic. It is not targeted at any particular ethnic group. Rather, when the security situation deteriorates to a certain extent, we have no choice but to implement very strict measures.The UN have designated some Uyghur groups as terrorists, and these groups came into contact with Islamic fundamentalists in other regions when China relaxed travel restrictions for a while, which allowed Muslims to make Hajj. Some of these groups have taken part in terrorist attacks within China.
That doesn't justify the measures taken by Beijing against the Uyghurs in general though, but that's China, where they don't do things by half. You could certainly argue the case for genocide but there are other Muslim groups in China, with about 120m Muslims in all, with the Uyghurs being the largest. Most of these are Sunni and the ones outside Xinjiang appear to be well integrated. As ever, it's never quite black and white.