The Labour Government

As I've already said, they may well fail to honour any of their ambitious policy commitments to reform the UK and rectify the catastrophic damage inflicted by the Lib/Lab/Con Alliance and their billionaire paymasters.

We'll never know if they're not given the opportunity.

So who or what is the answer?
The answer isn’t Reform and never will be. Millions of people will still vote for them though because they think Farage is their saviour. God knows why - he’s already fucked the country up with his shitty Brexit ideology so why anyone would go back for a second helping is beyond me.
 
The answer isn’t Reform and never will be. Millions of people will still vote for them though because they think Farage is their saviour. God knows why - he’s already fucked the country up with his shitty Brexit ideology so why anyone would go back for a second helping is beyond me.
You do understand that Farage had no influence whatsoever on the negotiation of terms or the subsequent implementation of Brexit don't you?

You've got those most opposed to brexit all along to thank for that... the billionaire corporations and their lackies and Useful Idiots in the Lib/Lab/Con Alliance.
 
You do understand that Farage had no influence whatsoever on the negotiation of terms or the subsequent implementation of Brexit don't you?

You've got those most opposed to brexit all along to thank for that... the billionaire corporations and their lackies and Useful Idiots in the Lib/Lab/Con Alliance.
You’re not seriously suggesting that Farage would’ve gotten us a super duper Brexit deal rather than the oven ready shitshow that Johnson negotiated?

Fact is that Farage is the main reason why Leave won in the first place so yes, the **** is one of those who are responsible for Brexit. As such, the prick shouldn’t be anywhere near mainstream British politics.
 
The answer isn’t Reform and never will be. Millions of people will still vote for them though because they think Farage is their saviour. God knows why - he’s already fucked the country up with his shitty Brexit ideology so why anyone would go back for a second helping is beyond me.
Who is the answer in your wonderful eyes ? People are fed up of labour and Tory’s full stop and wanting a change, sure people like yourself look down at reform voters as thick
 
You'll get a better reception for your myopic public sector comments in your nearest taproom; they're usually full of 'expert's like yourself.
It really doesn't take an expert to see first hand the inefficiency, ineptitude, entitlement and arrogance of your typical local authority and wider public sector worker, especially middle management and above.

Anyone who lives in the real world gets to experience it on virtually a daily basis.
 
He said they wouldn't reduce taxes until they've first reduced spending, which seems eminently sensible to me, I'm not sure how anyone seems to think it could be done any other way?

As I've said previously Reform may very well fail to honour their policy commitments if they do achieve power and could well prove to be as self serving and acquiescent to the globalist corporations and parasitic rentier class establishment who run this country as the Lib/Lab/Con Alliance have been. Who knows?

The problem any Reform Councils and Councillors have at local level is that they're inheriting a workforce made up overwhelmingly of left wing individuals who are deeply entrenched in a public sector "work" culture of entitlement, inefficiency and incompetence where they've been under no compulsion at all to be in any way productive or accountable... that workforce will inevitably double down on their appalling attitude to work and become uncooperative and intransigent in the face of any attempt at reforming it by Reform Councils.
You mean right wing people tend not to want to work in jobs helping other people.
 
You’re not seriously suggesting that Farage would’ve gotten us a super duper Brexit deal rather than the oven ready shitshow that Johnson negotiated?

Fact is that Farage is the main reason why Leave won in the first place so yes, the **** is one of those who are responsible for Brexit. As such, the prick shouldn’t be anywhere near mainstream British politics.
In your eyes do you really believe politicians have people’s best interests at heart
 
It really doesn't take an expert to see first hand the inefficiency, ineptitude, entitlement and arrogance of your typical local authority and wider public sector worker, especially middle management and above.

Anyone who lives in the real world gets to experience it on virtually a daily basis.
And your views on the supremely effective private sector transportation, logistics, energy and communications companies where the customer is always right are???
 
You mean right wing people tend not to want to work in jobs helping other people.
Well it's highly debatable just how "helpful" the majority of workshy, intransigent and self-entitled left leaning workers in local authorities are.

I wouldn't be surprised if some do set out with intentions of wanting to be productive, to help people and to "make a difference" etc etc... but soon get dragged into the typical public sector work culture.

In fact it's the genuinely productive ones who are probably castigated by their public sector colleagues and managers for not towing the line and not adhering to the traditional "work" culture that exists within the public sector... I know first hand an example of precisely this being the case.
 
No.

I've said just the opposite.

It will be a huge challenge for Reform to reform the abysmal work culture infesting the public sector.
Have you seen how busy the NHS is? Where do you take out the waste?

How can reform sort it out, that is it, by getting rid of it.

Then you can complain when dying in poverty and blame immigrants.
 
And your views on the supremely effective private sector transportation, logistics, energy and communications companies where the customer is always right are???
Any perceived failure of a private sector entity to provide an adequate service for the customer is very unlikely to be due to a rife poor work ethic or inefficiency from unproductive and unaccountable workers.

And if a private sector entity fails to provide a satisfactory level of service the paying customer generally has the right to take their business elsewhere.

Perhaps I should tell my local authority I'm taking my business elsewhere and as a result I'll no longer be paying my Council Tax.
 
Any perceived failure of a private sector entity to provide an adequate service for the customer is very unlikely to be due to a rife poor work ethic or inefficiency from unproductive and unaccountable workers.

And if a private sector entity fails to provide a satisfactory level of service the paying customer generally has the right to take their business elsewhere.

Perhaps I should tell my local authority I'm taking my business elsewhere and as a result I'll no longer be paying my Council Tax.
You know what I said earlier about your local tap room?
 
Have you seen how busy the NHS is? Where do you take out the waste?

How can reform sort it out, that is it, by getting rid of it.

Then you can complain when dying in poverty and blame immigrants.
So you're honestly trying to say the NHS isn't epically wasteful and inefficient across every aspect of its functions?

I don't blame immigrants in any of this, they're as much victims as everyone else, encouraged to come here with lies and false promises of a "better life" only to find themselves earning illegally low pay in the grey/gig economy and forced to live in squalid overcrowded HMO's... all so the avaricious corporations and parasitic rentier classes can profit off the back of them.
 
Who is the answer in your wonderful eyes ? People are fed up of labour and Tory’s full stop and wanting a change, sure people like yourself look down at reform voters as thick
I never said I knew the answer but what I do know is that Reform will make things even worse than they are. While no politician is perfect, Farage is a grifting **** who cares not a jot for the average person on the street and is every bit a part of the establishment as all those Labour and Tory politicians that are accused of being part of the establishment. Also, things are already unravelling for them at local council level. Say what you want about Labour and the Tories but at least they’ve got a modicum of competence unlike Reform.

Also, I never said Reform voters are thick but many of them are falling for populist soundbites.
 
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So you're honestly trying to say the NHS isn't epically wasteful and inefficient across every aspect of its functions?

I don't blame immigrants in any of this, they're as much victims as everyone else, encouraged to come here with lies and false promises of a "better life" only to find themselves earning illegally low pay in the grey/gig economy and forced to live in squalid overcrowded HMO's... all so the avaricious corporations and parasitic rentier classes can profit off the back of them.
You blamed the workforce for being lazy.

"An abysmal work culture".

You are attacking people whose jobs you couldn't do all across the public sector, and have no idea how efficient they are.

The biggest challenges have been the cuts since 2010, understaffed and having to spend more on agency staff, and your Fuhrer wants to make more cuts, and you believe it all without evidence.

He wants to sell off the NHS to the USA, and make billions out of it. You don't make something more efficient by making blanket cuts, and Labour have scrapped NHS England, so you can't get rid of them.

He needs thick people to vote for him, and there are plenty that will, as the Sun is probably still the most popular newspaper, you know the one that would get excited about paedophiles but still show topless 16 year old girls for old men to wank over until Labour banned it.

Or are you more of a Daily Star man?
 
You blamed the workforce for being lazy.

"An abysmal work culture".

You are attacking people whose jobs you couldn't do all across the public sector, and have no idea how efficient they are.

The biggest challenges have been the cuts since 2010, understaffed and having to spend more on agency staff, and your Fuhrer wants to make more cuts, and you believe it all without evidence.

He wants to sell off the NHS to the USA, and make billions out of it. You don't make something more efficient by making blanket cuts, and Labour have scrapped NHS England, so you can't get rid of them.

He needs thick people to vote for him, and there are plenty that will, as the Sun is probably still the most popular newspaper, you know the one that would get excited about paedophiles but still show topless 16 year old girls for old men to wank over until Labour banned it.

Or are you more of a Daily Star man?
You're conflating two completely seperate accusations that you're levelling at me, I was responding to you telling me "I'll be blaming the immigrants"

I entirely stand by my seperate statement that on the whole the public sector workforce, especially middle management and above, is predominantly left wing with an abysmal and deeply entrenched work culture of inefficiency, entitlement and non-accountability.

I understand you can only garner your abusive rhetoric, infantile name calling and oh so tired and clichéd soundbites from the left wing social media echo chambers you frequent, possibly with a bit of the Guardian thrown in for good measure... that's fair enough, I don't hold it against you, I can only try to encourage you to expand your sources of learning and information.
 
I never said I knew the answer but what I do know is that Reform will make things even worse than they are. While no politician is perfect, Farage is a grifting **** who cares not a joy for the average person on the street and is every bit a part of the establishment as all those Labour and Tory politicians that are accused of being part of the establishment. Also, things are already unravelling for them at local council level. Say what you want about Labour and the Tories but at least they’ve got a modicum of competence unlike Reform.

Also, I never said Reform voters are thick but many of them are falling for populist soundbites.
So it's that Labour and Tory competence that's got the country into the state it now finds itself in is it?

The only thing that all Labour and Tory politicians have demonstrably proved themselves competent at is personally enriching themselves whilst doing the bidding of their corporate and rentier class paymasters.

Reform haven't proven one way or another whether they'll be just as bad.
 

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