Huntingdon Train Incident - Reports of multiple stabbings

But you are also suggesting that my previous personal experience is worthless. Because you haven’t acknowledged it. So therefore it is worthless to you


I merely posted some facts. I've no opinion on your personal experience - how could I.

It's entirely consistent for one individual to have a different experience to the wider reality.

It's also possible, likely even, that our personal experience is not actually a reliable indicator of overall trends.
 
It’s now only one attacker.
It’s as though facts don’t matter… sigh

Cleavers tidied up the insane posts that mushroomed at the start of the story, including some post of a RWNJ tweeting that they leapt up and started shouting ‘allah aktar’ whilst slashing away…

You begin to wonder if we need Mulder & Scully brought out of retirement ‘the truth is out there’- but no-one wants to find it before amplifying crap
 
Britain has gone to the dogs. England in particular is a complete cesspit. The major cities are all totally lost, most resembling third world countries.

Anyone who says that it was 'just as bad in the past' is a deluded fucking idiot. There is no hope for Britain under any government.

Europe needs a war.
There’s one going on in Eastern Europe as we speak, you’re free to join up.
 
It’s as though facts don’t matter… sigh

Cleavers tidied up the insane posts that mushroomed at the start of the story, including some post of a RWNJ tweeting that they leapt up and started shouting ‘allah aktar’ whilst slashing away…

You begin to wonder if we need Mulder & Scully brought out of retirement ‘the truth is out there’- but no-one wants to find it before amplifying crap
Yeah, I read the thread last night, but didn’t post as no one knew anything. We still don’t know very much, so it’s still too early to draw conclusions.

The LNER guard sounds as though he’s been an absolute hero and hope he pulls through and gets all the commendations he deserves. He seems to have made an atrocious event end as well as it could have played out.

The demand for needing to know all the information immediately needs to stop though, along with the misinformation.

Perhaps people that post deliberate misinformation that stokes racial tension need prosecution. There needs to be some form of deterrent.
 
Britain has gone to the dogs. England in particular is a complete cesspit. The major cities are all totally lost, most resembling third world countries.

Anyone who says that it was 'just as bad in the past' is a deluded fucking idiot. There is no hope for Britain under any government.

Europe needs a war.
Get yourself to Ukraine. Let us know how you get on.
 
The most seriously injured victim is the guard on the train, apparently, who tackled the attacker and allowed other to escape.

BTP saying the CCTV shows he was heroically brave and almost certainly stopped there being fatalities. Something we can all agree on is hoping, and for those who do so. praying he pulls through.
 
Britain has gone to the dogs. England in particular is a complete cesspit. The major cities are all totally lost, most resembling third world countries.

Anyone who says that it was 'just as bad in the past' is a deluded fucking idiot. There is no hope for Britain under any government.

Europe needs a war.
Jesus wept!
 
Two British nationals arrested but that's only been confirmed after 12 hours of wanton racist speculation about it being from "small boat people", all from the usual suspects on the usual websites. Even now it's been confirmed that the two attackers were British nationals, Tommy Robinson is sharing content that suggests he "refuses to believe the lies".

All last night you had blue-ticked right-wing accounts on Twitter, screaming in capital letters that the stabbing had been "confirmed as a terrorist incident" and that "the attackers were shouting Allahu Akbar". Now it turns out there was no terrorist element (within legal definitions) and that the attackers aren't asylum seekers from small boats.

We are living in dangerous, dangerous times. It was the same after the Southport attack, when a fake Asian/Muslim name was leaked to the press by a website in Pakistan, and nobody knows who did it - only the website it came from. A nationwide riot in the UK, all caused by somebody making a stupid online comment 3,000 miles away.

Social media is a cancer. The police and authorities need to be allowed to do their jobs, but we have online vigilantes flooding the zone with speculation and misinformation about ongoing, developing incidents. If they name the attacker quickly, it's a conspiracy to harm whites; if they don't name the attacker quickly, it's a conspiracy to protect Asians.

And there will be people on the left reveling in the fact that it's a British national, too. It's one thing to feel relieved that it's not an asylum seeker - for fear of more mass violence on our streets and more angry protests at hotels - but it's another thing to point and laugh and tease at the other side. All of it is in bad faith and it's getting us nowhere.
Fantastic post young bob.
 
You did not post any facts. You posted some statistics.

You conspicuously ignore this distinction.

Please explain to me why there is no distinction.

Please explain why there is.

All data requires analysis to understand a trend. That analysis is done with statistics.

For example. The temperature of the surface of the earth has risen over recent years. That's a fact, which we know through statistics.

Likewise, nothing can be reliably known about overall levels of knife crime without statistical analysis. Anything else is nothing more than personal opinion.
 
It’s as though facts don’t matter… sigh

Cleavers tidied up the insane posts that mushroomed at the start of the story, including some post of a RWNJ tweeting that they leapt up and started shouting ‘allah aktar’ whilst slashing away…

You begin to wonder if we need Mulder & Scully brought out of retirement ‘the truth is out there’- but no-one wants to find it before amplifying crap
@cleavers did an excellent job on this thread. Christ knows, some of you lot* on here don't make life easy for us. I'll probably get grief for mentioning "Christ", and being prejudiced in favour of Christianity. "You wouldn't say Allah knows, would you?"


:-/

* Not intending to infer that you're one of the the said "you lot", by the way.
 
Just a quick reminder that over 14 years the then Govt allowed the various rail operators to cut station staff to the bone and actively campaigned against trains having guards and on board staff all in pursuit of allowing their mates operating the system to milk even more profit out of the system
 
It’s as though facts don’t matter… sigh

Cleavers tidied up the insane posts that mushroomed at the start of the story, including some post of a RWNJ tweeting that they leapt up and started shouting ‘allah aktar’ whilst slashing away…

You begin to wonder if we need Mulder & Scully brought out of retirement ‘the truth is out there’- but no-one wants to find it before amplifying crap
Wasn't just me, @Ric did an awful lot too, I tried to keep it on track, and out of the politics forum, which so far we seem to have suceeded in doing.
 

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