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KSS ‘draws up’ plans for expanded City Ground

Nottingham Forest has reportedly appointed architecture and design practice KSS Group to draw up plans for a redevelopment of the club’s City Ground stadium. In June, the Premier League club was given the green light to proceed with the first phase of plans to expand the City Ground after...
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KSS ‘draws up’ plans for expanded City Ground

Nottingham Forest has reportedly appointed architecture and design practice KSS Group to draw up plans for a redevelopment of the club’s City Ground stadium.

The Athletic has now reported that Forest is targeting a “more ambitious” revamp of the stadium, with proposals to remove the roof of the Peter Taylor Stand and build up the stand so it can seat 15,000 fans. Currently, the stand has a capacity of 5,000.

The report adds that Forest has informed Rushcliffe Borough Council that new plans are being finalised, with KSS said to be working with the club on the proposals. The club is also reportedly working with former Foster + Partners architect Konstantinos Chatzimanolis, who was appointed by Forest owner Evangelos Marinakis earlier this year.
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HelloCity said:
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KSS ‘draws up’ plans for expanded City Ground

Nottingham Forest has reportedly appointed architecture and design practice KSS Group to draw up plans for a redevelopment of the club’s City Ground stadium. In June, the Premier League club was given the green light to proceed with the first phase of plans to expand the City Ground after...
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In the last year they have threatened to move the club to the Derbyshire border, then agreed to stay put, put in an application for a new stand and been granted permission, and are now putting in a different set of plans.
The owner is making it up as he goes along.
 
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HelloCity said:
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The eye watering costs of West Ham’s stadium make it financially unsustainable

The London Stadium has cost over £1.2 billion since its creation for the London Olympics in 2012. The initial build cost of the Stadium in the 2005 bid was expected to be £280m, but the final cost was…
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I find this confusing. Are these just lease costs? In which case one entity benefits it is circuitous and it's a misleading report.

I also found that West Ham's match day receipts are very low at £44.6m for 2023-24. How can that be when they have crowds of over 60,000. City's match-day revenue is £76m. Perhaps it is not a like for like comparison?
 
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Arsenal hold internal talks about redeveloping Emirates Stadium

Arsenal hold internal discussions about expanding the capacity of Emirates Stadium, which currently sits just over 60,000.
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How do Arsenal plan to deliver these extra seats?

Another tier (not sure the rich locals would allow that due to light)?

Building an extended Spurs like ‘end’ where the railway line is?

Reconfiguration of the seats within the existing structure - the seats are currently very spacious- although you don’t want it to end up like Old Scaffold where you’re wedged in like a sardine?


Digging down a bit like we did with the lower tier of COMS?

Or a combination of the above?

When the Emirates was built I was massively unimpressed with the design and layout. It had all the worst elements of the flurry of bowl stadiums baked in. Which was unforgivable bearing in mind they’d move from the classic design of Highbury. Also the sightlines in the whole of the lower tier are terrible.
 
TheGhost said:
How do Arsenal plan to deliver these extra seats?

Another tier (not sure the rich locals would allow that due to light)?

Building an ‘extended end’ where the railway line is?

Reconfiguration of the seats within the existing structure - the seats are currently very spacious- although you don’t want it to end up like Old Scaffold

Digging down a bit like we did with the lower tier of COMS?

Or a combination of the above?

When the Emirates was built I was massively unimpressed with the design and layout. It had all the worst elements of the flurry of bowl stadiums baked in. Which was unforgivable bearing in mind they’d move from the classic design of Highbury. Also the sightlines in the whole of the lower tier are terrible.
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Talk that the lower tier would be ripped out and re-built at a steeper angle from the 2nd tier and down, and finishing up closer to the pitch.

Would mean playing at Wembley for a couple of years.

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HelloCity said:
Talk that the lower tier would be ripped out and re-built at a steeper angle from the 2nd tier and down, and finishing up closer to the pitch.

Would mean playing at Wembley for a couple of years.

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If Arsenal play at Wembley, can we agree that the money from those games goes towards paying Wembley off and not in Arsenals pocket?

It seems absurd that anytime a London club needs to redevelop their stadium, they get to play at Wembley and get all the money and extra capacity that comes with it.
 
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Birmingham City sports quarter. Stadium design concept being revealed in late November.

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They have had 2 press releases over this in the last few months. One for a short CGI walkthrough scene, and another for this overview.
Neither of them show any indication on stadium design, stop talking the talk and walk the walk, otherwise it just looks more increasingly unlikely.
 
Why can’t modern designs of stadiums get the acoustics for the atmosphere right?

None of them can get the quality of sound of old grounds. They're all very echoey and the sound travels around new grounds very poorly.
 
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From the I sports - they were definitely secretly promised funding help


Recent news reports describe Manchester United's new stadium plans receiving a "funding blow" because no government money for the Old Trafford regeneration project was committed in the latest Budget
. The club had hoped for public funding for the surrounding infrastructure and regeneration, a project previously backed in principle by Chancellor Rachel Reeves.
 
jimharri said:
I know someone who went there a couple of years ago. And he said that yes, from the air, it does look impressive. But that, once you're in it, it is showing it's age, and has a run down feeling to it.

Sound familiar?
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Last time I was there I'd been asked to get an Inter shirt for someone, when they asked what name /number I wanted on it I jokingly said Rodri 16, thought I was going to get stabbed :-) It is pretty run down but it doesn't have the fur coat and no knickers feel of the swamp, it's a more honest sort of decay.

A lot of Italian stadiums are dog rough, at the back end of last season when it became apparent that Pisa could be promoted back to Serie A it was an absolute dump that a League team 2 would turn it's nose up at. Not sure what workarounds they've put in to be allowed to play there. In some ways the likes of Pisa, Empoli and Leece's grounds are so shit they're almost good, like proper old school football.
 
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