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Kirkstall Blue said:
Lammy highly emotional and aggressive on his defence of another prison cock up. He’s been on the run for a week since the 29th October , the police were not informed until the 4th of November the delay is ridiculous for the police tracing/finding this man :( still trying to find the detention centre:(
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Emotional?

Tory minister opposite him at PMQ James Cartlidge asks him to apologise to family of girl assaulted by the now-deported asylum seeker, Lammy says we said sorry in an earlier debate. Then Cartlidge asks him if he can guarantee no other asylum seekers have been mistakenly released. Lammy ignores that (3 times) but highlights how the prison system has got in this state.

After PMQ, Cartlidge does a point of order to say it's just been revealed that an Algerian national (not necessarily an asylum seeker) was mistakenly released last week and is still at large.

Does anyone doubt that both Lammy and Cartlidge knew before PMQ? And that Cartlidge wasted 3 questions...
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
The prison service is broken this government like the last not getting to grips with the safety of the people. It’s Lammys place to inform the house of the latest escape. He’s to busy protecting his own reputation to answer a straight forward question and loses his temper, instead of admitting a further prisoner escape
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in 2007 the average mistaken releases was 50 a year - March 2024/25 was 262 - the previous year it was 115. Its been a long standing and growing issue.
 
It’s not easy this Government lark and we should all just recognise that fact and be understanding about things that don’t quite go to plan.
 
blueinsa said:
It’s not easy this Government lark and we should all just recognise that fact and be understanding about things that don’t quite go to plan.
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It’s almost impossible - govt after govt have overspent and we now find ourselves broke. BUT if they just focussed on trying to fix things instead of scoring points against each other we’d have a better chance of improving. But they’re (all sides) only seemingly interested in beating down their opponents, it’s embarrassing and shameful, just get on with trying to fix the country instead childish behaviour in parliament
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Did you know this ? … in 2007 the average mistaken releases was 50 a year - March 2024/25 was 262 - the previous year it was 115.
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Was it a huge issue then for you and something you would have rightly criticised the government for?
 
blueinsa said:
Was it a huge issue then for you and something you would have rightly criticised the government for?
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I didn’t even know about it. Where was the media outcry ?

There were 115 prisoners mistakenly released in the last year of the last Conservative Government.

Andrea Jenkyns was a Tory Minister and MP then.
Lee Anderson was a Tory MP then.
Danny Kruger was a Tory MP then.
Sarah Pochin was a Tory councillor then.
Zia Yusuf was a major donor Tory then.
Laila Cunningham was a Tory Councillor and worked for the CPS.
Jaymey McIvor was a Tory Councillor.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
I didn’t even know about it. Where was the media outcry ?

There were 115 prisoners mistakenly released in the last year of the last Conservative Government.

Andrea Jenkyns was a Tory Minister and MP then.
Lee Anderson was a Tory MP then.
Danny Kruger was a Tory MP then.
Sarah Pochin was a Tory councillor then.
Zia Yusuf was a major donor Tory then.
Laila Cunningham was a Tory Councillor and worked for the CPS.
Jaymey McIvor was a Tory Councillor.
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lol
 
Vic said:
Emotional?

Tory minister opposite him at PMQ James Cartlidge asks him to apologise to family of girl assaulted by the now-deported asylum seeker, Lammy says we said sorry in an earlier debate. Then Cartlidge asks him if he can guarantee no other asylum seekers have been mistakenly released. Lammy ignores that (3 times) but highlights how the prison system has got in this state.

After PMQ, Cartlidge does a point of order to say it's just been revealed that an Algerian national (not necessarily an asylum seeker) was mistakenly released last week and is still at large.

Does anyone doubt that both Lammy and Cartlidge knew before PMQ? And that Cartlidge wasted 3 questions...
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Lammy knew about this latest prisoner release last night and refused to provide an honest answer to the House today.

Outright dishonesty. The idea behind PMQs is to hold the government to account and to ensure that parliament can receive answers to the questions MPs want answered. Lammy obviously doesn’t give a fuck about any of that.

He’s clearly not up to the job, is well out of his depth and should resign.
 
Brewster's millions said:
Lammy knew about this latest prisoner release last night and refused to provide an honest answer to the House today.

Outright dishonesty. The idea behind PMQs is to hold the government to account and to ensure that parliament can receive answers to the questions MPs want answered. Lammy obviously doesn’t give a fuck about any of that.

He’s clearly not up to the job, is well out of his depth and should resign.
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If you think PMQs is anything but a show, more fool you. Even Badenough stated that
 
mosssideblue said:
Yes, it’s embarrassing, but it’s the individual prisons making these fuck ups
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What about misleading the house in PMQs? He blatantly refused to confirm further releases today even though he clearly knew.

He put strict new protocols in place and they failed within 7 days.

It’s on him.
 
This country has drifted into an absolute mess in the last 10 years.

The prison system is broken.
The immigration system is broken.
The economic system is broken.

This was all created by the inept conservative government but it’s time for Labour to stop passing the buck and blaming them now and to actually do something about it.

It needs strong action and I am not sure we are going to get it.
 
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