Why is Cancer so difficult to treat?

grunge said:
A mate of mine who passed away from Cancer last year started up a company/Charity to look at using CRISPR to target Cancer at a DNA level. He got a lot of interest from his Oncologist and his colleagues but im not sure how far it went.

His Cancer woudn't have been fixable using it as every new tumour ( and he had lots at the time ) was a different DNA profile. but for more stable cancers it might be a viable route forward.

Unfortunately I cant find his charity company anymore so I guess that closed down when he passed away.
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I am sorry to have about your friend but that’s really interesting.
 
pace89 said:
That's because people are far less likely to die of cardiac conditions or stroke earlier in life so more often are diagnosed with cancer later in life. Or to put it another way, 40 years ago blokes would drop down dead from a heart attack at 70 but these days the equivalent will live to 85 but eventually be diagnosed with cancer.
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Yeah, seems reasonable, i suppose we are also getting better at detecting cancers as well, so this would increase the numbers as well.
 
East Level 2 said:
What is the correct pH for one's body and how do you measure it easily? There are plenty of industrial pH measuring systems ("hello" to all those at Endress + Hauser in Wythenshawe) but are there any domestic ones?
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I studied all this years ago after a good mate of mine died of Cancer. He actually passed while I was at the Etihad one sat night after a long battle against the disease.He was in Beeston Notts And to be honest I hadn't got the info to hand.i was not impressed by the care he received,I'm not going into it,suffice to say feeding cancer patients apple pie and ice cream ,I've learned......is not,quite right....

I then helped save the life of another man,a doctor....who had lung cancer( non smoker)
The oncologist had told him and his wife that there was a tumour on his lung and " there was " " nothing we can do " " he has only 3 Months to live "
I studied hard looking at natural remedies,devised a plan with his wife,helped by living close to
" Out of This World" the organic natural food shop in Beeston....PH levels were a constant theme at the time......This was all back under the Pellegrini era...The man is still alive today...

Since then of course,The world changed. A man made medical drama exploded across our screens..I got dogs abuse on here for suggesting anything non mainstream, and now it's against the law,under Pep ,as it were to speak of alternative remedies.Control.
So I won't.
All I can say is, self study,which I've done all my life really, reaps reward.
 
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BimboBob said:
Utter rubbish.

I'd be dead if I had avoided sugar, fasted or stuffed my face with Tumeric. This sort of bollocks should be treated the same way as someone being racist on here. Thread banned.

How many ways can you try and spell tumour? And who puts needles in them? Is this Facebook Surgery?
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It doesn't have to be Tumeric.....
Ginger and Clove are discussed here.
After playing footy on a Thursday night,my body aches with inflammation. I'm in my late 50s..
Root ginger with warm,not boiling water ..... takes away most of that pain quickly,naturally

Keep throwing the insults Bimbo Bobby,but self study really should be your Goal. ; )
 
dennishasdoneit said:


It doesn't have to be Tumeric.....
Ginger and Clove are discussed here.
After playing footy on a Thursday night,my body aches with inflammation. I'm in my late 50s..
Root ginger with warm,not boiling water ..... takes away most of that pain quickly,naturally

Keep throwing the insults Bimbo Bobby,but self study really should be your Goal. ; )
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Well at least you've shown your sources, so we all know that you're getting your advice on preventing and surviving cancer from a (not a real doctor) chiropractor. Now everyone can dismiss it as bullshit and listen to the doctors who actually went to medical school and actually treat/study cancer.

Let's be clear, everyone on this forum is as much as a medical doctor as this bloke who tries to present himself as one.

What next? Reversing dementia with crystals? Feng shui your way out of a heart attack? How acupuncture can cure your piles?
 
dennishasdoneit said:


It doesn't have to be Tumeric.....
Ginger and Clove are discussed here.
After playing footy on a Thursday night,my body aches with inflammation. I'm in my late 50s..
Root ginger with warm,not boiling water ..... takes away most of that pain quickly,naturally

Keep throwing the insults Bimbo Bobby,but self study really should be your Goal. ; )
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The man is not stating anything new. Its been known for centuries that natural remedies are very good for you. But you can't leap from a few aches and pains to curing cancer. Sure a healthy diet is good for you...duh...and helping a mate who's still alive today is great news but still proves nothing.
I'm a medical God, my words, after beating terminal cancer, but If you think my way of doing it would work on someone else then you are delusional.
I stayed as healthy as I could, but still ate crap if I wanted it, apple pie included, but in the end it's down to your body and how it deals with it including the diagnosis/ treatment which has come on in leaps and bounds in the last 10 years.
My advice? You do you. If it's working and you feel great every morning then I'm very happy for you. But don't think you'll change anyone else's minds unless you produce hard facts from professionals. Cancer professionals.
 
dennishasdoneit said:
I studied all this years ago after a good mate of mine died of Cancer. He actually passed while I was at the Etihad one sat night after a long battle against the disease.He was in Beeston Notts And to be honest I hadn't got the info to hand.i was not impressed by the care he received,I'm not going into it,suffice to say feeding cancer patients apple pie and ice cream ,I've learned......is not,quite right....

I then helped save the life of another man,a doctor....who had lung cancer( non smoker)
The oncologist had told him and his wife that there was a tumour on his lung and " there was " " nothing we can do " " he has only 3 Months to live "
I studied hard looking at natural remedies,devised a plan with his wife,helped by living close to
" Out of This World" the organic natural food shop in Beeston....PH levels were a constant theme at the time......This was all back under the Pellegrini era...The man is still alive today...

Since then of course,The world changed. A man made medical drama exploded across our screens..I got dogs abuse on here for suggesting anything non mainstream, and now it's against the law,under Pep ,as it were to speak of alternative remedies.Control.
So I won't.
All I can say is, self study,which I've done all my life really, reeps reward.
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So basically the most important thing is maintaining the body's correct pH but you don't know what that value is or how to measure it? The only thing I might agree with is that sugar is bad for you as a dermatologist I was treated by told me the same thing.
A quick Google suggests test strips are available for testing saliva or urine samples. I'm surprised you didn't mention this.
 
East Level 2 said:
So basically the most important thing is maintaining the body's correct pH but you don't know what that value is or how to measure it? The only thing I might agree with is that sugar is bad for you as a dermatologist I was treated by told me the same thing.
A quick Google suggests test strips are available for testing saliva or urine samples. I'm surprised you didn't mention this.
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Too much sugar is bad for you but as with everything in life a balanced diet is the way forward. This includes sugar. Too much tumeric is also bad for you.

A balanced diet with plenty of fresh fruit/ veg is the way forward. Meat included (non processed meat, Butcher styleee). Smaller portions. Three times a day. Ignore fads, superfoods (no such thing just a marketing term), fast food outlets and excess of anything and I'm sure you'll have a long and happy life.

And then get hit by a tram.
 
Lowest cancer rates in the world are from countries thst fast regular.

Joy defeats cancer...lock yourself away and get belly laffin like a mental patient.

Cancer doesnt like the pigment that makes beetroot the colour it is.

A younger kid asked me recently how i knew his father in law was gonna die of kidney cancer (2020) when i spouted it in '98...i was straight with him i knew the father in laws jealousy would have to out.
Everything you think creates a molecule..fact.
 
Gogootz said:
I wouldn't base a treatment plan on things that start with the same 3 letters, considering turmeric has an r in it :)
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Thanks for your reply ;)

Ill share a personal story with you ,believe it if you want to or not.

A few years ago,one late evening I had an abscess on my tooth,the pain and was so bad I'd describe it as 10 out 10.I could not sleep and was basically beside myself with anxiety,too late to attend a dentist.

In desperation I went to the net yt and put in the search engine "natural remedies for abscess"
I came across a vid " ten natural remedies for tooth abscess"

No.8 was Tumeric./ Colin Bell

I just happened to have some In my kitchen. Following the video instruction,boiled a kettle ,put a little tumeric on a saucer,added a little hot water,just enough to mix the two into a paste and smeared the substance directly onto the abscess
.
Within 5 mins I kid you not the pain had reduced to 4 out of ten
I managed to finally get to sleep.
The next morning ,I woke up....and the abscess ( tumour?..) had burst.
Totally pain free!!

That was a lightbulb moment for me.

Tumeric is of course highly anti inflammatory and ive never spent a day since without this herb close to hand ,or it's root plant ,Curcumin.( Cheap as Chips,I from the Asian supermarkets..)

As an aside ,I've since learned that Tumeric is not easily absorbed by the body and a pinch of black pepper added to the mix will deal with this problem.

Have a nice day.
 
East Level 2 said:
So basically the most important thing is maintaining the body's correct pH but you don't know what that value is or how to measure it? The only thing I might agree with is that sugar is bad for you as a dermatologist I was treated by told me the same thing.
A quick Google suggests test strips are available for testing saliva or urine samples. I'm surprised you didn't mention this.
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Lol another derogatory reply. Sigh
Look that up yourself pal if your really interested in the body's optium PH level.
Cut out the snide remarks?
Your studies may take you back to the Austrian scientist from the mid 1930s who won the Noble Peace Prize for discovering " No Disease can exist in an Alkaline state ( body) "

A few years later.1939 in this country we made The Cancer Act law basically barring anyone from claiming to have a a cure for cancer.a bizarre bit of legislation
One step forward....2 steps back.
 
Broccoli sprouts are x amount more potent than any other type and if you freeze em that potency multiplys considerably. That's a big amount of sulforophane.
 
Unfortunately we give each other cancer and arthritis, psoriasis, fibromyalgia, ms..at our worst we are capable of spasticating each other. No dr can fix that.

cheap way to kop for joy for the femmes at least is to dance...everyday..forever. they love it.
 
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dennishasdoneit said:
A few years later.1939 in this country we made The Cancer Act law basically barring anyone from claiming to have a a cure for cancer.a bizarre bit of legislation
One step forward....2 steps back.
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Pretty certain that this is tosh.
The Cancer Act prevents advertising to the general public - it's to protect against snake oil salesmen.
It's perfectly legal to advertise/promote products to professionals in the field.

Note that the Act doesn't cover cancer prevention treatment.
 
Depressing level of bullshit posted and liked on the thread.

Anyway, reality is that cancer is a huge variety of conditions, not one, and we've actually made very good progress against many types eg breast cancer :

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A couple of posters were querying why biopsies (samples) of tumours are taken. It's because cancers can be caused by different mutations. Different mutations can be treated better by different drugs.

Increasing rates of some types of cancer are largely driven by the increasing age of the population. Cancers killing young people gets a lot of headlines, but mercifully is very rare.
 
dennishasdoneit said:
Lol another derogatory reply. Sigh
Look that up yourself pal if your really interested in the body's optium PH level.
Cut out the snide remarks?
Your studies may take you back to the Austrian scientist from the mid 1930s who won the Noble Peace Prize for discovering " No Disease can exist in an Alkaline state ( body) "

A few years later.1939 in this country we made The Cancer Act law basically barring anyone from claiming to have a a cure for cancer.a bizarre bit of legislation
One step forward....2 steps back.
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He won the Nobel prize for research into respiratory enzymes.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
Pretty certain that this is tosh.
The Cancer Act prevents advertising to the general public - it's to protect against snake oil salesmen.
It's perfectly legal to advertise/promote products to professionals in the field.

Note that the Act doesn't cover cancer prevention treatment.
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Govt position on advertising

www.gov.uk

Advertise your medicines

How to comply with the requirements on promoting medicines to the public and to prescribers and suppliers of medicines
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

There are very strict rules on what you can claim in promotion even to medical professionals - basically you can't claim anything that the medicine is not already approved for.

Obviously, none of the snake oil pushed above is approved for anything (as there's no evidence for it), so it's forbidden to promote it.
 
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