Villa v Maccabi Tel Aviv - away fans banned | MTA confirm they will refuse any allocation for safety reasons (p26)

Semper aggressus said:
Can I ask, as someone far removed (thankfully!) from any of this kind of thing, why so many people are against Israel? It was Hamas that killed hundreds of innocents at a music festival.

If, say the Houthis had sunk a British cruise ship and drowned 1,000 innocent Brits on holiday, wouldn’t most of us want the Navy to wipe them out?

What’s the difference?
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Yes, because this issue only began at the music festival…….
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
So the “war” started 2 years ago?
It’s like the British army dropping bombs on Dublin after the Manchester bombing in 1996 and asking “why have the IRA started this war?”
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They had an offer on the table from day one to surrender and disarm. They didn’t do it. By the way, even now,after a deal was signed and they promised to disarm, they are not keeping the agreement and refuse to surrender. They are a terrorist organization, for God’s sake why do I even have to explain myself. A terrorist organization! They murdered thousands. They stole billions from their own people to build thousands of kilometers of tunnels, rockets, and ammunition. They built bases inside hospitals, schools, and residential buildings. Do you think we want to be at war for two years with our soldiers and civilians being killed every day? If Israel were committing genocide, would it have lasted two years? We could have wiped them out in a minute. Would we be sending them thousands of trucks of food and supplies every day? Provide them water and electricity?Would we be asking them to leave certain areas before we strike so they can protect themselves? This war has lasted two years because it’s a Nazi terrorist organization that doesn’t care about its people; you just believe whatever they tell you and don’t look at the facts. Would you be willing to keep living next to a terrorist group sitting on the outskirts of Manchester that has made it its goal to destroy you? Wouldn’t you wipe them off the face of the earth if they broke into Manchester and murdered 1,200 innocent civilians? We have nothing against the Palestinians,we are not willing to live alongside Hamas, which wants to kill us all. They are not willing to surrender; if you have another solution, please propose it. We would welcome an end to this war.
 
MCFC ISRAEL said:
They had an offer on the table from day one to surrender and disarm. They didn’t do it. By the way, even now,after a deal was signed and they promised to disarm, they are not keeping the agreement and refuse to surrender. They are a terrorist organization, for God’s sake why do I even have to explain myself. A terrorist organization! They murdered thousands. They stole billions from their own people to build thousands of kilometers of tunnels, rockets, and ammunition. They built bases inside hospitals, schools, and residential buildings. Do you think we want to be at war for two years with our soldiers and civilians being killed every day? If Israel were committing genocide, would it have lasted two years? We could have wiped them out in a minute. Would we be sending them thousands of trucks of food and supplies every day? Provide them water and electricity?Would we be asking them to leave certain areas before we strike so they can protect themselves? This war has lasted two years because it’s a Nazi terrorist organization that doesn’t care about its people; you just believe whatever they tell you and don’t look at the facts. Would you be willing to keep living next to a terrorist group sitting on the outskirts of Manchester that has made it its goal to destroy you? Wouldn’t you wipe them off the face of the earth if they broke into Manchester and murdered 1,200 innocent civilians? We have nothing against the Palestinians,we are not willing to live alongside Hamas, which wants to kill us all. They are not willing to surrender; if you have another solution, please propose it. We would welcome an end to this war.
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Its never your fault is it?

I suppose this lads ticket was promised 3,000 years ago too?

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Heavens. There have been an estimated 200,000 Palestinians slain since October 2023, and even official figures state more than 62,000 dead, with many more buried under the rubble, the latest chapter in a gradual slaughter that is eighty years in duration. Children starved and shot in the head, medicines and aid deprived to the people, and the death of babies celebrated in the songs of the Maccabi fans. This is not a fanbase worthy of a welcome, and it is a regime worthy of the world's condemnation.

Just remember that Human Rights Watch, the International Association of Genocide Scholars, Doctors Without Borders, Amnesty International, and the Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention have all described events in Gaza as a genocide. Journalists are forbidden to enter Gaza, others are routinely shot, as are doctors, and the land is taken. It is hard to believe that ANYONE believes that HAMAS, which wasn't formed until 1987, are responsible for a conflict beginning in the early part of the 20th century. If I occupy someone's land, steal their homes, force them to move, and brutally subjugate them, why would I be shocked by an occasional retaliation? Is it a terrorist who fights back, or a terrorist who kills, starves, and cuckoos homes?

PLEASE do some reading.
 
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That really was not a good look last night.

It had absolutely no place at a football match, football is something that, on many levels, has brought communities together. Anti semitism has no place at a football match.

That agitator yakoob needs a very close eye keeping on him. People are quick to call the likes of farage divisive, theyve nothing on that inflammatory bastard. Hes a wind up merchant, and after his nonsense concerning the manchester airport attack we should be very careful about what air time he is goven
 
Bluesince1979 said:
That really was not a good look last night.

It had absolutely no place at a football match, football is something that, on many levels, has brought communities together. Anti semitism has no place at a football match.

That agitator yakoob needs a very close eye keeping on him. People are quick to call the likes of farage divisive, theyve nothing on that inflammatory bastard. Hes a wind up merchant, and after his nonsense concerning the manchester airport attack we should be very careful about what air time he is goven
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I have read a number of reports, but non suggesting antisemitism, just protests against the actions of the Israeli government, calls for Israel to be banned from competing in sport, or in support of the Palestinian people. I agree that there is no place for antisemitism, but what was the antisemitic part of the protest?
 
oldius said:
I have read a number of reports, but non suggesting antisemitism, just protests against the actions of the Israeli government, calls for Israel to be banned from competing in sport, or in support of the Palestinian people. I agree that there is no place for antisemitism, but what was the antisemitic part of the protest?
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The whole sorry episode from start to finish stunk of it.
Many on here wont want to admit that, or blindly cant admit it, so its absolutely not a discussion i shall have on here, because there is no point.

But it all left a very sour taste.
 
MCFC ISRAEL said:
They had an offer on the table from day one to surrender and disarm. They didn’t do it. By the way, even now,after a deal was signed and they promised to disarm, they are not keeping the agreement and refuse to surrender. They are a terrorist organization, for God’s sake why do I even have to explain myself. A terrorist organization! They murdered thousands. They stole billions from their own people to build thousands of kilometers of tunnels, rockets, and ammunition. They built bases inside hospitals, schools, and residential buildings. Do you think we want to be at war for two years with our soldiers and civilians being killed every day? If Israel were committing genocide, would it have lasted two years? We could have wiped them out in a minute. Would we be sending them thousands of trucks of food and supplies every day? Provide them water and electricity?Would we be asking them to leave certain areas before we strike so they can protect themselves? This war has lasted two years because it’s a Nazi terrorist organization that doesn’t care about its people; you just believe whatever they tell you and don’t look at the facts. Would you be willing to keep living next to a terrorist group sitting on the outskirts of Manchester that has made it its goal to destroy you? Wouldn’t you wipe them off the face of the earth if they broke into Manchester and murdered 1,200 innocent civilians? We have nothing against the Palestinians,we are not willing to live alongside Hamas, which wants to kill us all. They are not willing to surrender; if you have another solution, please propose it. We would welcome an end to this war.
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What date precisely do you consider 'Day One' to be out of interest?
 
Bluesince1979 said:
The whole sorry episode from start to finish stunk of it.
Many on here wont want to admit that, or blindly cant admit it, so its absolutely not a discussion i shall have on here, because there is no point.

But it all left a very sour taste.
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I can respect that.
I didn't see the protests live, so I accept that I may have missed something that hasn't been mentioned in later reporting, but I have not seen one, single report that mentions protests against Jewish people, nor the Jewish religion. Protests against the actions of Israel are not antisemitic.

I am happy to be proven wrong if anyone can point me to any protests from last night against Judaism.
 
oldius said:
I can respect that.
I didn't see the protests live, so I accept that I may have missed something that hasn't been mentioned in later reporting, but I have not seen one, single report that mentions protests against Jewish people, nor the Jewish religion. Protests against the actions of Israel are not antisemitic.

I am happy to be proven wrong if anyone can point me to any protests from last night against Judaism.
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Took me 2 seconds

“Dirty zionist”
 
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