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WesthoughtonJohn said:
I don't like Trump - and you have to be careful how you phrase things on social media these days.
But in this case the BBC have been caught with their pants down. Whoever chose to edit those 2 clips together didn't make a "mistake" (which I'm sick of hearing in this instance) it was intentional - the clue is in the word EDIT.
The BBC is a farce these days, and imho shouldn't have it's license renewed
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The 'edit' whilst wrong and unprofessional, didn't alter the narrative in any way.
 
The Fat el Hombre said:
Maga is all but finished. Maga realising that their politicians actually put israel and not america first, along with the epstein files (also israel related), and israel dragging them into wars with iran and continuing to take billions in foreign aid from america have killed it.

Some analysis here, includes MTG stuff:

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Let me tell you you what the chances are of me clicking on a Nick Fuentes video: zero.

He could offer a rhapsody on the greatness of Kevin DeBruyne and I wouldn’t click.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
The 'edit' whilst wrong and unprofessional, didn't alter the narrative in any way.
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Not arguing that point - what happened that day was appalling.
But if you're holding people to account you need to do it in an accurate manner - there should have been a comment advising of the gap between the clips.
My point remains - it wasn't a "mistake" so stop referring to it as such
 
WesthoughtonJohn said:
Not arguing that point - what happened that day was appalling.
But if you're holding people to account you need to do it in an accurate manner - there should have been a comment advising of the gap between the clips.
My point remains - it wasn't a "mistake" so stop referring to it as such
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I certainly never referred to it as a mistake. It was stupid for the BBC to put that out, as it plays directly into the hands of those who want to see the BBC destroyed.
 
WesthoughtonJohn said:
Not arguing that point - what happened that day was appalling.
But if you're holding people to account you need to do it in an accurate manner - there should have been a comment advising of the gap between the clips.
My point remains - it wasn't a "mistake" so stop referring to it as such
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Was your egregious spelling of ‘licence’ a mistake or intentional?
 
WesthoughtonJohn said:
Not arguing that point - what happened that day was appalling.
But if you're holding people to account you need to do it in an accurate manner - there should have been a comment advising of the gap between the clips.
My point remains - it wasn't a "mistake" so stop referring to it as such
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A matter of semantics - I don't think that they're claiming that anybody accidentally clipped the speech.

They're saying that the decision to do so was wrong.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
I certainly never referred to it as a mistake. It was stupid for the BBC to put that out, as it plays directly into the hands of those who want to see the BBC destroyed.
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Wasn't a personal dig - apologies if that's how it came across.
It's not that I WANT it destroyed - but, for me, standards appear to have slipped alarmingly (hence the "not fit for purpose").
There seems to be a hole in the checking mechanism that needs filling asap
 
noseve said:
A matter of semantics - I don't think that they're claiming that anybody accidentally clipped the speech.

They're saying that the decision to do so was wrong.
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Doing something intentionally doesn’t mean it can’t be a mistake and describing it as such isn’t wrong in this instance I’d say.

The Charge of the Light Brigade springs to mind.

The producers responsible doubtless did it with the intention to mislead, and possibly even deceive, and as I’ve said previously on another thread should never work in media again.
 
noseve said:
A matter of semantics - I don't think that they're claiming that anybody accidentally clipped the speech.

They're saying that the decision to do so was wrong.
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Interesting take on it :).
Get the argument - but it's not come across that way to me. In the BBC reporting it's always come across as "it was a mistake to edit it in the way we did" - which for me isn't a mistake.
I respect others views, and have given my take so I'll rest at this point
 
WesthoughtonJohn said:
Wasn't a personal dig - apologies if that's how it came across.
It's not that I WANT it destroyed - but, for me, standards appear to have slipped alarmingly (hence the "not fit for purpose").
There seems to be a hole in the checking mechanism that needs filling asap
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so which news agency is your goto then? Which corporation have taken up the banner as the bbc has slipped away?
 
WesthoughtonJohn said:
I don't like Trump - and you have to be careful how you phrase things on social media these days.
But in this case the BBC have been caught with their pants down. Whoever chose to edit those 2 clips together didn't make a "mistake" (which I'm sick of hearing in this instance) it was intentional - the clue is in the word EDIT.
The BBC is a farce these days, and imho shouldn't have it's license renewed
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It doesn't have a license to renew.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Doing something intentionally doesn’t mean it can’t be a mistake and describing it as such isn’t wrong in this instance I’d say.

The Charge of the Light Brigade springs to mind.

The producers responsible doubtless did it with the intention to mislead, and possibly even deceive, and as I’ve said previously on another thread should never work in media again.
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But The Charge of The Light Brigade was not intentional, was it? Nolan(?) accidentally pointed down the wrong valley. In this case, that would have been equivalent to an incorrect clipping of the speech, which I haven't heard anybody claim happened here.

I'm not sure that there was any thought of misleading anybody, either - they probably assumed (like most on here) that the whole world knew exactly what he'd implied.

After all, he had already been impeached for it, three or four years prior to the documentary being aired, presumably based upon the unedited transcript of his speech?

Who were they trying to mislead or deceive?
 
noseve said:
But The Charge of The Light Brigade was not intentional, was it? Nolan(?) accidentally pointed down the wrong valley. In this case, that would have been equivalent to an incorrect clipping of the speech, which I haven't heard anybody claim happened here.

I'm not sure that there was any thought of misleading anybody, either - they probably assumed (like most on here) that the whole world knew exactly what he'd implied.

After all, he had already been impeached for it, three or four years prior to the documentary being aired, presumably based upon the unedited transcript of his speech?

Who were they trying to mislead or deceive?
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I don’t think they were trying to mislead anyone. It was like a match of the day/highlights programme

They couldn’t show all of the ramblings so shown what they thought as the most important

People need to remember, this wasn’t a ‘news’ programme. These events had taken place years before and up until last week it wasn’t in dispute(by anyone serious) that anything other than Trump inciting them had happened

All that said. It’s poor PR and does semi feed into the Trump cult victimhood narrative
 
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