The Labour Government

[bluethrunthru]

Yeah I read it mate, i had a quick look at our welfare spend which is lower than a lot of countries.

So on paper it seems we should be taxing and spending more. This doesn't seem such a popular view though

It would always be a popular view for most as long as somebody else pays the increased tax to cover. Even now you get Tories and ex-Tories advocating lower taxes and smaller Govt - ie more austerity. Alexi Sayles last library in Wolverhampton would have to go

 

[Vic]

Phew. £460 London to Darlington feels so much more affordable.

Where do people get these daft fares from? Max standard walk-up fare is £191.90 each way

 

[Vic]

Was Labour’s ‘fully costed manifesto’ daft or dishonest? I’d say both, actually.

After what this government has done, and is about to do in terms of fiscal policy, they won’t be in a position to call out other parties’ manifesto pledges for at least another 20 or 30 years.

Whatever Labour does, it will be hard to beat Reform's manifesto claim to raise the tax threshold to £20k

 

[hilts]

Where do people get these daft fares from? Max standard walk-up fare is £191.90 each way

Maybe he meant a return? £191 one way is not a good price

 

[Vic]

Maybe he meant a return? £191 one way is not a good price

Nearly always available cheaper if you buy before you start the journey. £90 now on the next train if you don't mind a bus from Bedford to Peterborough. But not the £460 he quoted (return?)

 

[hilts]

Nearly always available cheaper if you buy before you start the journey. £90 now on the next train if you don't mind a bus from Bedford to Peterborough.

I very much do mind a bus from Bedford to Peterborough when im supposed to be travelling by train:-)

Malaga to Madrid over 300 miles between £8 and £40. It madness what we pay and also bad for the economy. I would love to fuck off to london or Edinburgh without loads of notice.

Nationalise it and subsidise the ticket, its madness that it costs more for us to travel within the UK than it does to fly all over Europe.

 

[metalblue]

Nearly always available cheaper if you buy before you start the journey. £90 now on the next train if you don't mind a bus from Bedford to Peterborough. But not the £460 he quoted (return?)

Daughter was quoted that (give or take a few quid I can’t remember the exact amount) the other week when she needed to get to London and back to monte darlo, I didn’t ask her for a screen shot but she sent me this when she was quoted it not long back.



I was quoted £355 for a two hour single train journey a few weeks back directly on the operators website, which was dearer than a weekly season ticket / taxi / paying someone to give me a piggy back.

Irrespective freezing fares is dog shit. Our train fares should have some correlation irrespective of when you buy (some folk only know their plans at the last minute). For the record this isn’t the current governments fault.

 

[Vic]

Daughter was quoted that (give or take a few quid I can’t remember the exact amount) the other week when she needed to get to London and back to monte darlo, I didn’t ask her for a screen shot but she sent me this when she was quoted it not long back.

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I was quoted £355 for a two hour single train journey a few weeks back directly on the operators website, which was dearer than a weekly season ticket / taxi / paying someone to give me a piggy back.

Irrespective freezing fares is dog shit. Our train fares should have some correlation irrespective of when you buy (some folk only know their plans at the last minute). For the record this isn’t the current governments fault.

I've no idea how that fare was quoted. It's £81.80 on any train so long as you don't go via London. And a while back was last year, not that it would make any difference, except a bus service for part of the journey.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Anyone who does not fully appreciate that Liz Truss was the worst PM in British history, and by a considerable distance, has no credibility whatsoever on the subject.

In your misguided opinion. You are not the oracle nor arbiter on such opinions.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

In your misguided opinion. You are not the oracle nor arbiter on such opinions.

Your opinion of my opinion is misguided.

 

[Vic]

In your misguided opinion. You are not the oracle nor arbiter on such opinions.

I know we're trying to ignore this stuff, but I think the view of history will be "She lasted how long?"

 

[metalblue]

I've no idea how that fare was quoted. It's £81.80 on any train so long as you don't go via London. And a while back was last year, not that it would make any difference, except a bus service for part of the journey.

They should charge extra to not go via London!!! ;)

Daughters was quoted on train line (which you and I have discussed before about their pricing model) but I’ve certainly been quoted £355 direct on operator website. Anyway once they all back under on umbrella hopefully some sanity will be seen.

 

[west didsblue]

In your misguided opinion. You are not the oracle nor arbiter on such opinions.

Ok, who was worse than Liz Truss?

 

[hilts]

Ok, who was worse than Liz Truss?

A piece of pork would have done a better job than that daft woman.

 

[mosssideblue]

In your misguided opinion. You are not the oracle nor arbiter on such opinions.

Is your opinion equally misguided, or are you the judge and jury?

 

[mosssideblue]

Ok, who was worse than Liz Truss?

She was piss poor, but Johnson for me

 

[west didsblue]

A piece of pork would have done a better job than that daft woman.

Never realised David Cameron’s Pig’s head ever had the job but I’m sure you’re right and it would have done a better job. It wouldn’t have been trying to open pork markets in China either.

 

[west didsblue]

She was piss poor, but Johnson for me

Certainly did more damage but not in his first 50 days.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Certainly did more damage but not in his first 50 days.

it’s actually difficult to imagine anyone serving for 50 days, with the clear intention to sabotage the UK from the outset, causing more damage than Truss.

 

[west didsblue]

it’s actually difficult to imagine anyone serving for 50 days, with the clear intention to sabotage the UK from the outset, causing more damage than Truss.

Her only competition is Donald Trump. Thankfully he’s not British.