City fan suffers broken leg after being attacked at Leeds game

BringBackSwales said:
It’s the younger generation I feel sorry for. I have teenage sons who went to their first game at the age of 2, season ticket holders since aged 4 & 6, absolutely City daft, as many aways as they can. They will grow up in an era of atmosphereless football, grounds full of half and half phone watchers and away fans sat next to them. There’ll be no Oldham away ladders for them, no 15k Blues away at sjoke for a new players debut, no 14k away fans for an fa cup quarter final, no dare I say swales out demos (or a modern day organised equivalent) just a plastic sanitised soulless stadium. Thank fuck I am 66 and a recent stroke sufferer and won’t have too many years of watching the erosion of our legacy fanbase and atmosphere, it’s not even a gradual erosion the changes over the last 18 months have been dramatic, I really feel for my lads and their continued “matchday experience”. I wouldn’t swap the old days for anything, even if I didn’t completely realise it at the time
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Long time reader; first time poster but totally agree with this, I’m 39 and my dad took me to Maine road from about aged 8, sat in the north stand with season and went to most away days in my early teens during the dark days of division 1 & 2 but one thing that always stuck out was the atmosphere back then. Sheer volumes of city fans turning up at tin pot stadiums, sometimes utter dross on the pitch but my god what noise the city fans made - could only wish I was in my early 20s and could go on the piss too. Gave up my season ticket after the centurion season as I was starting to stop enjoy going, essentially city have turned into everything we mocked United for over the years, tourist fans coming once a season but ultimately this is what the club want now we are a global corporate powerhouse. Everyday fans who buy a pie and pint or bring their own flask of tea aren’t the core customers at city now, they want your far east or European day tripper spending a fortune in the club shop and do a stadium tour on the morning of the game.

I’ve bought hospitality tickets for my son for the wolves game as a Christmas present which was so easy with no checks to see if I’m a city fan or have any purchase history so it’s a major issue when shithouses from Liverpool or Leeds can do the same
 
BringBackSwales said:
Take care always EB. A legend of a City fan, a proper legacy one
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Thank you. When I was being wheeled down from one part of A & E to another on Saturday the porter asked his mate what the score was (mentioning no names, just what score is it) I said We’re winning 1-0 after 5 minutes and then added I should be there! So got into a football conversation as always!! *lol*
Have you seen my photo of my notice board from the hospital on what I want to happen?
‘Get home to watch Man City’ and my nurse drew a heart because she’s a City fan!
 
WiganBlue1986 said:
Long time reader; first time poster but totally agree with this, I’m 39 and my dad took me to Maine road from about aged 8, sat in the north stand with season and went to most away days in my early teens during the dark days of division 1 & 2 but one thing that always stuck out was the atmosphere back then. Sheer volumes of city fans turning up at tin pot stadiums, sometimes utter dross on the pitch but my god what noise the city fans made - could only wish I was in my early 20s and could go on the piss too. Gave up my season ticket after the centurion season as I was starting to stop enjoy going, essentially city have turned into everything we mocked United for over the years, tourist fans coming once a season but ultimately this is what the club want now we are a global corporate powerhouse. Everyday fans who buy a pie and pint or bring their own flask of tea aren’t the core customers at city now, they want your far east or European day tripper spending a fortune in the club shop and do a stadium tour on the morning of the game.

I’ve bought hospitality tickets for my son for the wolves game as a Christmas present which was so easy with no checks to see if I’m a city fan or have any purchase history so it’s a major issue when shithouses from Liverpool or Leeds can do the same
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Bang on the money. The away games were brilliant then, huge followings, great togetherness, now we are considered legacy cunts
 
Betterdeedthan red said:
Maybe the club should make the whole ground apart from 3k fir away fans completely for city fans as it should be.
Fuck who were playing.
That's our ground.
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I agree but as seen at old trafford with Gala and Rangers. They were all over the ground, stick em together somewhere and then no1 has any issues then. Its only like allocating an FA Cup sized allocation so they'd all be together.
 
Eccles Blue said:
I saw that you had said that @Tim of the Oak but that wasn’t the question I asked.
My question was: Was a City fan ‘beaten senseless’ as well as breaking his leg, poor guy?

If there was a fan ‘beaten senseless’ then the club and police have a bigger job. If not then the club were not lying, there was exaggeration however badly they worded their statement.
Exaggeration is what blows things out of proportion on the Internet these days.
That was the point I was trying to get across.

You know that I will almost always defend Danny Wilson for what he has done for me in what was a bad situation plus he has always enquired after my health since I was first taken ill a few years ago. As have you Tim and I thank you for that as well. I try to speak as I find. :-) :-)
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I'm not sure that the supporter with the broken leg will feel reassured after reading the official club statement that the accounts of serious injuries were exaggerated

However, some people (not everyone) are obviously posting based on what they've heard rather than what they actually saw and this is what's causing the confusion, and leading to so many unhelpful and irrelevant posts.

It's exactly the same on the Leeds Forums with some posters insisting that City can't complain after the way that away fans were ambushed outside Maine Road in the 70s, and others asserting that this had nothing to do with Leeds.

I know at least three Leeds fans who kept a respectful silence in the City end on Saturday and I know at least three City fans who got them the tickets.

That's how it should be, as the world's a smaller place and there are plenty of Leeds fans in our catchment area (and vice versa)

In this instance, nobody got "battered senseless" but possibly related (or a totally separate incident) it sounds as though somebody was rumbled.for celebrating/not celebrating when everyone around them was doing the exact opposite, and this caused some friction
 
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BringBackSwales said:
It’s the younger generation I feel sorry for. I have teenage sons who went to their first game at the age of 2, season ticket holders since aged 4 & 6, absolutely City daft, as many aways as they can. They will grow up in an era of atmosphereless football, grounds full of half and half phone watchers and away fans sat next to them. There’ll be no Oldham away ladders for them, no 15k Blues away at sjoke for a new players debut, no 14k away fans for an fa cup quarter final, no dare I say swales out demos (or a modern day organised equivalent) just a plastic sanitised soulless stadium. Thank fuck I am 66 and a recent stroke sufferer and won’t have too many years of watching the erosion of our legacy fanbase and atmosphere, it’s not even a gradual erosion the changes over the last 18 months have been dramatic, I really feel for my lads and their continued “matchday experience”. I wouldn’t swap the old days for anything, even if I didn’t completely realise it at the time
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I think, like a lot of things, nostalgia can very much romanticise our experience. I have fond memories of being a nipper in the late eighties and early nighties, sat down on the wall at the bottom of the Kippax corner, legs dangling through the perimeter fencing. I was in awe of the atmosphere and the buzz.

On the flip side, as I got older, I began to realise so much of the match-going experience was grim. Piss dribbling down the Kippax terrace because lazy cunts couldn't be arsed going to the bathroom (which were fucking rank anyway), getting chucked out away at Bradford because pissed up 'Blues' decided to start up the 'town full of p**kis' chant and I had the audacity to call them out and got in a brawl for my troubles.

A lot of the old-school supporter experience was mint, lots of it was wank.

Pretty much a microcosm of life and society.
 
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Roy Munson said:
I think, like a lot of things, nostalgia can very much romanticise our experience. I have fond memories of being a nipper in the late eighties and early nighties, sat down on the wall at the bottom of the Kippax corner, legs dangling through the perimeter fencing. I was in awe of the atmosphere and the buzz.

On the flip side, as I got older, I begin to realise so much of the match-going experience was grim. Piss dribbling down the Kippax terrace because lazy cunts couldn't be arsed going to the bathroom (which were fucking rank anyway), getting chucked out away at Bradford because pissed up 'Blues' decided to start up the 'town full of p**kis' chant and I had the audacity to call them out and got in a brawl for my troubles.

A lot of the old-school supporter experience was mint, lots of it was wank.

Pretty much a microcosm of life and society.
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Now we have popcorn constant lectures and the feeling you are part of one great bit Stockholm Syndrome experiment orchestrated by the people who don't understand the football experience one little bit.

There are shit things that happen in life I don't expect my club and football in general to disappear up it's own arse and go full Ballofuckinory on us just because they can.
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
I'm not sure that the supporter with the broken leg will feel reassured after reading the official club statement that the accounts of serious injuries were exaggerated

However, some people (not everyone) are obviously posting based on what they've heard rather than what they actually saw and this is what's causing the confusion, and leading to so many unhelpful and irrelevant posts.

I know at least three Leeds fans who kept a respectful silence in the City end on Saturday and I know at least three City fans who got them the tickets.

That's how it should be, as the world's a smaller place and there are plenty of Leeds fans in our catchment area (and vice versa)

In this instance, nobody got "battered senseless" but possibly related (or a totally separate incident) it sounds as though somebody was rumbled.for celebrating/not celebrating when everyone around them was doing the exact opposite, and this caused some friction
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Of course mate, it’s better if everyone gets on and fans in the wrong end are respectful.

FWIW, the injured Blue has been told his operation on his broken leg is on Wednesday or Friday (depending on which hospital operates). I think City are in no doubt there was a serious injury. I think the statement was based on out of date reports before the broken leg was confirmed

I’ve got nothing against Leeds fans in general. I went for a drink with three around town before the game and they went in their end for the game.

I would loved nothing more than everyone to come away from the game without injuries. I even tried to encourage the walking wounded guy to get first aid.

I think we just need to let the inquiries proceed now without loads more questions or conspiracies. The most important thing is the safety of fans going forward.
 
Re Galatasary, the chances are they will have zero or very limited ticket history with MCFC and ticket agencies should not be selling tickets for this game. Every ticket should have to be sold via City and anyone with no history of purchasing since the beginning of last season should be made to purchase in person at which point the club can make a judgement call on who they support.
 
Anyone remember when Celtic came to the Etihad for a CL game a few years ago ? This was obviously before the “new” ticketing policy and system in place now ………
It kicked off everywhere that night with those scruffy moronic bigoted clowns !!!
Gala now is possibly going to be a shit show embarrassment for MCFC on a global stage ……..
 
BringBackSwales said:
Bang on the money. The away games were brilliant then, huge followings, great togetherness, now we are considered legacy cunts
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Jokes aside, but in the boardroom, there will be a term used for fans like yourself, and it wouldn't surprise me if you're not far off with the term you used.

They'll categorize the type of fan, and probably revel in the fact that the CVP of 'new' fans far outweigh that of fans like yourself.
 
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