Have we ever thrown away a 4 goal lead?

There aren't actually that many games where it's even possible. Yes I've just trawled through every result in the clubs history on here: https://bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/History/Matches/Seasons.aspx

Apologies if I've missed any but I think I picked them all up. Hope I've got all the home and aways right too.

Every game where we've conceded at least 4 and scored at least 4:
1894/95 - Newcastle United 5-4 City
1906/07 - Liverpool 5-4 City
1925/26 - City 4-4 Everton
1925/26 - Bury 6-5 City
1925/26 - City 11-4 Crystal Palace - FA Cup
1927/28 - City 7-4 Swansea City
1927/28 - Nottingham Forest 4-5 City
1928/29 - City 6-4 Bury
1936/37 - Chelsea 4-4 City
1950/51 - Grimsby Town 4-4 City
1952/53 - Middlesbrough 5-4 City
1953/54 - Sunderland 4-5 City
1956/57 - City 5-4 Chelsea
1956/57 - City 4-5 Newcastle United - AET - FA Cup
1957/58 - Sheff Wed 4-5 City
1957/58 - Leicester City 8-4 City
1959/60 - City 4-6 Wolves
1960/61 - Arsenal 5-4 City
1985/86 - City 4-5 Chelsea - Neutral Ground - Full Members Cup
2023/24 - Chelsea 4-4 City
2025/26 - Fulham 4-5 City

8 wins, 4 draws and 9 losses there. Included the wins because we could have given the lead away in the game.

Haven't actually checked any of them yet. Have to be an FOC to remember seeing one beyond the most recent 3. I'll update as I go.

@Gary James might also be aware of friendlies or maybe wartime games that aren't officially counted.
I've previously written about the 4-4 with Everton in 1925. City came back from 3-0 down in 30 minutes and played with ten men for most of the game:

And the Palace game:

And Nott Forest... This one's remarkable as City were leading 5-1 at one point and it ended 5-4:

And the Chelsea 4-4s:

Against Middlesbrough in 1952-53 City were 3-0 down but came back.
 
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I've previously written about the 4-4 with Everton in 1925. City came back from 3-0 down in 30 minutes and played with ten men for most of the game:

And the Palace game:

The Grimsby game was back and forth too.
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City 4 v 5 Newcastle. Cup replay in 1957, I think 4-0 at HT.
I wasn’t there!
game of the season according to the Charles Buchan Football Annual. Bedlam from the kick-off, despite it being a Wednesday afternoon. City 3-0 up at H/T, 3-3 90 minutes, City made it 4-3 in e/t but lost 5/4 at full time. In those days the FA Cup was the Big One, the Final being televised live. Amazing there wasn't multiple casualties in the Kippax, the surge and sway was unstoppable, one paper gave the attendance as 57,000, another 70,000 ?
 
game of the season according to the Charles Buchan Football Annual. Bedlam from the kick-off, despite it being a Wednesday afternoon. City 3-0 up at H/T, 3-3 90 minutes, City made it 4-3 in e/t but lost 5/4 at full time. In those days the FA Cup was the Big One, the Final being televised live. Amazing there wasn't multiple casualties in the Kippax, the surge and sway was unstoppable, one paper gave the attendance as 57,000, another 70,000 ?
You can watch highlights of it here:
 
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4 goals comeback is the highest record in the Prem, no?

Newcastle vs Arsenal, and I remember it took a red card for it happen. So I don't think we ever matched that, at least not in the PL era.
 
Nice work. The next job is to get match reports for these. That 1894-95 game looks interesting, as does Bury in 1925-26. I'll have a trawl through if I get chance.

Just saw that the Bury game was on Xmas day! Found this on the Guardian:
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Can't see the goal order though, beat us on Boxing day the following day too, would have been chaos on here had it been around.

City mention it here too:
 
4 goals comeback is the highest record in the Prem, no?

Newcastle vs Arsenal, and I remember it took a red card for it happen. So I don't think we ever matched that, at least not in the PL era.

I would imagine it's quite rare across the whole of English football, can't see most clubs having done it more than once or twice.
 
And Nott Forest... This one's remarkable as City were leading 5-1 at one point and it ended 5-4:
So, that’s now twice we’ve been 1-5 up in the second half and won 4-5. I’d imagine, like many things this club has done, a unique achievement…
 
After tonight's near miss, I was wondering if this has ever happened in our history? There have been a few 3-goal leads going awry I think (Bournemouth in '89 sticks in my memory) but I think a 4 goal lead being thrown away would have been a first?
I'm still of the mindset that we need another when 3 up. Thirty years of that seems hard to shake off.
 
He was denied the modern day record which Ian Rush has since surpassed.
The all time FA Cup scoring record is held by Harry Cursham of Notts County but his career was when Queen Victoria was still around.
Yep, I meant post war.
 
There aren't actually that many games where it's even possible. Yes I've just trawled through every result in the clubs history on here: https://bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/History/Matches/Seasons.aspx

Apologies if I've missed any but I think I picked them all up. Hope I've got all the home and aways right too.

Every game where we've conceded at least 4 and scored at least 4:
1894/95 - Newcastle United 5-4 City - Didn't happen.
1906/07 - Liverpool 5-4 City - Didn't happen, albeit unofficial Liverpool source has us 4-2 down at half time.
1925/26 - City 4-4 Everton - Didn't happen, 0-3, 1-3, 1-4, 4-4.
1925/26 - Bury 6-5 City - Didn't happen, found in the boxing day Liverpool Echo of all place.
1925/26 - City 11-4 Crystal Palace - FA Cup - didn't happen.
https://www.mancity.com/news/mens/1...y-v-crystal-palace-a-record-breaking-fac-tie/
1927/28 - City 7-4 Swansea City
1927/28 - Nottingham Forest 4-5 City - Didn't happen. It was 5-1 City at one point though.
1928/29 - City 6-4 Bury
1936/37 - Chelsea 4-4 City - Didn't happen, 2-1, 2-4, 4-4.
1950/51 - Grimsby Town 4-4 City - Didn't happen, 0-1, 2-1, 2-4, 4-4.
1952/53 - Middlesbrough 5-4 City - Didn't happen, we were 3-0 and came back to 3-3 at one point.
1953/54 - Sunderland 4-5 City - Didn't happen. 1-0, 3-1, 3-3, 3-4, 4-4, 4-5.
1956/57 - City 5-4 Chelsea - Didn't happen according to unofficial Chelsea source. 0-2, 2-2, 2-3, 3-3, 3-4, 5-4.
1956/57 - City 4-5 Newcastle United - AET - FA Cup - Didn't happen. 3-0, 3-3, 4-3, 4-4, 4-5.


1957/58 - Sheff Wed 4-5 City
1957/58 - Leicester City 8-4 City
1959/60 - City 4-6 Wolves - Didn't happen according to footballdatabase.eu, 2-0, 2-3, 3-3, 3-4, 4-4, 4-6. 1960/61 - Arsenal 5-4 City - Didn't happen according to footballdatabase.eu, 3-0, 3-3, 5-3. 1985/86 - City 4-5 Chelsea - Neutral Ground - Full Members Cup - Didn't happen, 0-1, 5-1, 5-4.

2023/24 - Chelsea 4-4 City - Didn't happen, 0-1, 2-1, 3-2, 3-3, 3-4, 4-4.

2025/26 - Fulham 4-5 City

8 wins, 4 draws and 9 losses there. Included the wins because we could have given the lead away in the game.

Haven't actually checked any of them yet. Have to be an FOC to remember seeing one beyond the most recent 3. I'll update as I go.

@Gary James might also be aware of friendlies or maybe wartime games that aren't officially counted.


Update for those following. Managed to get some play by play on the Xmas day game against Bury in 1925 from the Liverpool Echo! They took the lead a couple of times before we equalised, so no 4 goal lead given away.

Only 4 games I haven't checked, 2 were wins (could have gave a 4 goal lead away before winning) and 2 are losses.
 
For the past two weekends I've watched my son's team play (U7s) and he's scored a hat trick in each and come off with his side 5-1 up with 5 minutes to play. They've lost both 6-5.

So I was completely chilled last night.
 
After tonight's near miss, I was wondering if this has ever happened in our history? There have been a few 3-goal leads going awry I think (Bournemouth in '89 sticks in my memory) but I think a 4 goal lead being thrown away would have been a first?
Was at that game. Blisset penalty to make it 3-3.

Couldn't get a ticket for the Bradford game either.
 

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