PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

The day the evening news pushed an acceptable ads or reject and pay wall on to me, was the day I finally found the motivation to block their website.

Google doesn't suggest it to me now ever, and I can't accidentally click on it for their news-less articles, many of which are copy and pasted from other group member areas such as Bristol, midlands, Kent, places I have no connection with and no interest in their local news.

I remember the days of reading their sports pages religiously when it was pushed through the door. Nowadays you couldn't pay me to skim over it. A symbol of how the noise of the modern age, as everyone given a voice clamours to be heard above everyone else, despite having nothing useful or interesting to say.

Did the premier league have a duty to investigate the potential breaches? Yes, thoroughly. But they didn't. They charged and assumed, possibly to beat a cut off for charges to be laid, spurred on by jealous rivals with personal interest held above football and fairness.

There was no real investigation, yet I and you and every other city fan suffers from the resulting witch hunt fuelled by a gossiping and speculating media and rival fans base, to the point of harm be it financial, mental or physical. We can't enjoy our success, or they at least try to downplay it, we're targeted as fans of a cheating club, and we're not allowed to see our club sign record breaking deals, bring in the best players and capitalise on our success and investment.

But I wish there had been, a real, in depth, investigation. Because there's a clear breach of acting on good faith when those 8 or 9 clubs signed that letter asking for us to be punished before the case was even heard. It's pretty clear also that other clubs have prioritised their own position above English football, damaging it's reputation, and it would be extremely interesting to go a little further down the Pinto rabbit hole to find out how he got access to private emails, why he or others felt compelled to manipulate what he found to paint city in a bad light, how he's gained , or sought to gain, financially from it, and who he was planning to take payments from.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
What a good awful website the Manchester evening news is. Why do that shit, nobody wants all the spam and ads stopping you read what you actually went there for.

Anyway last paragraphs says this and it confused me tbh



"Borson also believes that neither the club nor the Premier League should be held responsible for the case dragging on for years.

"Well, look, nobody knows because even the parties themselves expected to have been told by now," he added.

"All the lawyers are surprised there is no decision at this stage, and that's on both sides. I'll tell you who's holding it up - the panel making the decision. They hold the pen.

They are the people who everybody waits for to deliver the decision. Well, nobody knows. We know the long list - you can cobble it together from all of the people on the judicial panel - but we don't know who is on that list.

"We can make some guesses that it's probably two lawyers and maybe one accountant. But we don't know who is on the panel and what they were told to produce by when.

"We can now assume I think, given how long it has been and that everybody is so surprised that they don't have a decision, that actually there's very little guidance given to them and they weren't effectively paid for their time from the moment the case ended."
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The whole process is starting to smell. The PL commissioned the panel and should have briefed them on the task and that should have included estimated timescales and costs. But Masters has zero experience for this sort of task. It smells like a massive cock-up. Masters has tried to deflect the situation saying “It’s all up to the panel.” Now the narrative seems to be:”Let’s scapegoat the panel.”
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
"Borson also believes

"We can make some guesses that it's probably two lawyers and maybe one accountant. But we don't know who is on the panel and what they were told to produce by when.

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I’ll tell you who’s on the panel….Zippy,George and Bungle…it’s taken so long poor old Geoffrey has already snuffed it.
 
Metal Biker said:
Since the BS of June? Quite a lot of us, really.

It's a ridiculous joke at this point, and paints a pretty damning picture of the whole process. I wouldn't trust any of them to decide what coffee they'd want in the morning; probably take them a month.
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I wish the PL incompetents, the Red Cartel self-entitled twunts and their Media shills would all 'fu-coffee' with their 115/130/petty jealousies or whatever..
 
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bobbyowenquiff said:
The whole process is starting to smell. The PL commissioned the panel and should have briefed them on the task and that should have included estimated timescales and costs. But Masters has zero experience for this sort of task. It smells like a massive cock-up. Masters has tried to deflect the situation saying “It’s all up to the panel.” Now the narrative seems to be:”Let’s scapegoat the panel.”
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That's the thing isn't it? It's not a court case, it's not even a real arbitration as far as I, as a layman, can see. It's just a disciplinary process on a basis agreed between a regulator and a "regulatee". If it's taking an absurd amount of time for a disciplinary process, that is entirely on the PL for not managing the process properly or, at least, for raising allegations that the rules are poorly equipped to handle.

It's everything that's wrong with football at the moment. Micro-management and micro-investigation of everything - the VAR of the football legal world: it's all taking too long and nobody really wants it.
 
I think back to when the charges were brought and the chairman was adamant we had nothing to hide and we would be cleared on all charges but I've got to wonder after all this time how we haven't been able to prove our innocence and how an IP are taking so long. Surely if we were as confident as we sounded then all the charges could have been quite easily disproven?

It's a bit of a joke and the excuses of it being complex are wearing a bit thin.

I'm sure we are innocent, I'm just grumpy because I'm stuck in Spain until after Xmas now and want to go home!! Haha!
 
Phil1 said:
I think back to when the charges were brought and the chairman was adamant we had nothing to hide and we would be cleared on all charges but I've got to wonder after all this time how we haven't been able to prove our innocence and how an IP are taking so long. Surely if we were as confident as we sounded then all the charges could have been quite easily disproven?

It's a bit of a joke and the excuses of it being complex are wearing a bit thin.

I'm sure we are innocent, I'm just grumpy because I'm stuck in Spain until after Xmas now and want to go home!! Haha!
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I asked the same question last year (or possibly the year before that) and was told by Stefan that our accounts are effectively the evidence, and that rather than us having to prove our innocence, the onus is on the PL's Lawyers to prove our guilt
 
Phil1 said:
I think back to when the charges were brought and the chairman was adamant we had nothing to hide and we would be cleared on all charges but I've got to wonder after all this time how we haven't been able to prove our innocence and how an IP are taking so long. Surely if we were as confident as we sounded then all the charges could have been quite easily disproven?

It's a bit of a joke and the excuses of it being complex are wearing a bit thin.

I'm sure we are innocent, I'm just grumpy because I'm stuck in Spain until after Xmas now and want to go home!! Haha!
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I get your point but the onus isnt on us, we are innocent unless proven guilty. Therefore onus v much on the PL to show otherwise. I note we have never bothered to make a provision in our accounts for any sanction/loss so confidence remains v high.
 
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