President Trump

I think Nigeria is one of the largest oil producers In Africa?

The bombing of ISIS sites there has got fuck all to do with it. If it did the same would be applied to Gaza and Ukraine.

It's rapacious capitalism. With Nigeria being a commonwealth nation why aren't we telling him to fuck off?
 
TinFoilHat said:
I think Nigeria is one of the largest oil producers In Africa?

The bombing of ISIS sites there has got fuck all to do with it. If it did the same would be applied to Gaza and Ukraine.

It's rapacious capitalism. With Nigeria being a commonwealth nation why aren't we telling him to fuck off?
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Oil, natural gas, coal, solid minerals, gemstones, Uranium...

I think it's fair to say they haven't done this for the safety and security of the people of Nigeria.
 
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Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Saw that. Absolute genius move.
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But that’s just it — it’s really not a genius move. A 12 year-old could have done it. It’s the absolute brainlessness of the Trump crew that allowed it to happen!

Cruelty and incompetence are in a race to see which one this administration is remembered more for.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
But that’s just it — it’s really not a genius move. A 12 year-old could have done it. It’s the absolute brainlessness of the Trump crew that allowed it to happen!

Cruelty and incompetence are in a race to see which one this administration is remembered more for.
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I'm only annoyed that I didn't do it ;-)
 
BlueAnorak said:
So you think ISIS have a point to murder anyone who isnt an ISIS Zealot?
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He has picked his target based on religion and politics.
He is sat behind a desk and by now, 24 hours later, he will have forgotten about the carnage he caused.
Isis are clearly and obviously wrong to murder anyone but do you believe this action will make them stop ?
More innocent people around the world will die because of this action. The Bondi Beach slaughter had nothing at all to do with Australia, it was about people recruited to terrorism by actions thousands of miles away.
Trump and his madcap foreign policies is simply bringing more deaths to innocents.
 
Blue Mist said:
He has picked his target based on religion and politics.
He is sat behind a desk and by now, 24 hours later, he will have forgotten about the carnage he caused.
Isis are clearly and obviously wrong to murder anyone but do you believe this action will make them stop ?
More innocent people around the world will die because of this action. The Bondi Beach slaughter had nothing at all to do with Australia, it was about people recruited to terrorism by actions thousands of miles away.
Trump and his madcap foreign policies is simply bringing more deaths to innocents.
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Intrigued. Are you saying we, the west, should stop interfering everywhere and just leave countries in conflict to it?
 
Palerider said:
Intrigued. Are you saying we, the west, should stop interfering everywhere and just leave countries in conflict to it?
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In many respects, yes I am. You cannot pick who is right and who is wrong especially when it's based on religion (and large oil and mineral reserves)
Why not bomb Myanmar ? the ruling junta are guilty of ethnic cleansing but no one seems to mind because the victims are Muslims. Why not bomb China, their treatment of Uyghurs is disgraceful. The US doesn't because it would start a huge unwinnable war.

I will now ask you two question, does the US or any country have the right to kill people, anywhere in the world and if so, why is it morally right that they get to target the ones who can't fight back.
Finally, all America did by bombing Isis is create new martyrs to kill more Christians.
 
Blue Mist said:
In many respects, yes I am. You cannot pick who is right and who is wrong especially when it's based on religion (and large oil and mineral reserves)
Why not bomb Myanmar ? the ruling junta are guilty of ethnic cleansing but no one seems to mind because the victims are Muslims. Why not bomb China, their treatment of Uyghurs is disgraceful. The US doesn't because it would start a huge unwinnable war.

I will now ask you two question, does the US or any country have the right to kill people, anywhere in the world and if so, why is it morally right that they get to target the ones who can't fight back.
Finally, all America did by bombing Isis is create new martyrs to kill more Christians.
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it's a conundrum for sure. On one hand I think you're correct, why do we (in the west) think we have the right to impose our values on others? On the other hand, if I was amongst the persecuted I would want and expect strong people of the "free world" to help me. I really don't know what the answer is other than, at the end of the day, black, white, muslim, christian and even Jehovah's witnesses are human beings and should be treated with dignity and respect.

In other news, and to get back on topic, Shitgibbon is a **** who would help the world by dying
 
Blue Mist said:
The film on C4 at the moment is Independence Day.
Theblurb states 'A fighter pilot, a boffin and the US president team up to foil the alien plan.'

The difference between US fiction and US reality .......oh dear.
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The reverence for the office of the president has often led to filmmakers portraying the president in a heroic fashion. It's rarely been close to reality but Billy Bonespurs takes it about as far away as is possible!
 
Blue Mist said:
In many respects, yes I am. You cannot pick who is right and who is wrong especially when it's based on religion (and large oil and mineral reserves)
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Probably true. To paraphrase a popular quote. "One man's 'side of evil' is another man's 'side of good'. Extremists (dictators, far right, far left, radical religious groups especially radical islam) everywhere all want to have total victory. My favourite word is compromise so I tend to side with groups that accept free thought and free thinking.

Blue Mist said:
Why not bomb Myanmar ? the ruling junta are guilty of ethnic cleansing but no one seems to mind because the victims are Muslims. Why not bomb China, their treatment of Uyghurs is disgraceful. The US doesn't because it would start a huge unwinnable war.
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Ultimately, that is saying, fight every battle (for good) or fight none? It's justifying doing nothing because we cannot do everything. Realistically, populations will only support wars against opponents who they deem a threat.

Blue Mist said:
I will now ask you two question, does the US or any country have the right to kill people, anywhere in the world and if so, why is it morally right that they get to target the ones who can't fight back.
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No the USA or anyone else does not have the right to kill 'innocent' people anywhere. Surely though you are not claiming that ISIS are just everyday innocent people? Do you just leave ISIS to set off on another killing spree entertaining themselves with throwing homosexuals and unbelievers off tall buildings? What about the people ISIS are killing, do they not need defending?

Blue Mist said:
Finally, all America did by bombing Isis is create new martyrs to kill more Christians.
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Only if someone is evil, stupid or brainwashed enough to believe ISIS ideology surely?
 
Palerider said:
Probably true. To paraphrase a popular quote. "One man's 'side of evil' is another man's 'side of good'. Extremists (dictators, far right, far left, radical religious groups especially radical islam) everywhere all want to have total victory. My favourite word is compromise so I tend to side with groups that accept free thought and free thinking.


Ultimately, that is saying, fight every battle (for good) or fight none? It's justifying doing nothing because we cannot do everything. Realistically, populations will only support wars against opponents who they deem a threat.


No the USA or anyone else does not have the right to kill 'innocent' people anywhere. Surely though you are not claiming that ISIS are just everyday innocent people? Do you just leave ISIS to set off on another killing spree entertaining themselves with throwing homosexuals and unbelievers off tall buildings? What about the people ISIS are killing, do they not need defending?


Only if someone is evil, stupid or brainwashed enough to believe ISIS ideology surely?
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To blend all your replies into one and my reply to them.....
When Yugoslavia imploded and ethnic cleansing took place, Europe, supported by most of the world took action. Peace keepers spent years in the region ensuring peace and bringing war criminals to justice. There was no one day, headline grabbing, bombing before moving onto another problem. Nigeria was just that, Trump hasn't solved the problem of Isis with his one day war.

Isis are the result of followers of Islam believing the west, especially the US are corrupt and out to destroy Islam.
That ideology isn't stopped by a one day bombing spree, it merely recruits simple minded folk to their cause.

I will again mention Bondi Beach. Every single person killed or wounded in that attack was an innocent member of the public. They suffered as a result of actions similar to the attack by Trump in Nigeria.
One day wars merely bring new recruits to a cause.

I cannot provide an answer as to how you stop Isis but a one man, one day war is not the answer.
Further, Trump is not the answer to any question that mentions compromise.
 
Blue Mist said:
The film on C4 at the moment is Independence Day.
Theblurb states 'A fighter pilot, a boffin and the US president team up to foil the alien plan.'

The difference between US fiction and US reality .......oh dear.
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Spot on. I bet most Americans think Independent Day is a documentary and is true !.

As I get older I have stopped watch films or at the very least watch non American films ( Downton Abbey lol ). Im fed up of watching the Hollywood rewrite history or saving the world. I reckon its got to a point were Americans believe Hollywood films are factual

A colleague has a daughter in the army and when in Iraq she bought a huge Union Flag to up onto of her vehicle. Her mum asked why she said ' to try and stop the coked up US pilots from shooting her. She was more scared of the Americans then she was of the Iraqis.
 
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