America Bombs Venezuela

Putin must be pissing himself.
Ukraine and the USA will have been trying to take the moral high ground in the peace plans and now putin will just be pointing to Venezuela and saying you are the same as me.
Putin will be seriously pissed off, he’s had his tentacles into South America for a while and now loses influence in Venezuela.
 
Venezuela has the largest known oil reserves yet inflation is out of control and the vast majority live in poverty, I'm sure they'll see this as an opportunity. Maduro was a dictator and I'm sure the Venezuelans won't be shedding any tears. Trump has done them a favour.
Their army is going nowhere and supports the president. There will be civil strife and deaths.
 
This is probably exactly how Putin expected the attack on Ukraine to go back in 2022.

The US is just as bad as Russia, and Trump is as bad as Putin.

The only difference is that Zelensky and Jo's leadership held firm. Marduro has been handed over willingly for the US to install a puppet regime.
 
If he has influence over Trump — which he does — then he gains influence, I’d say.
And increased influence without having to divert even more funds from his "special military operation"
Can't buy my nice Russian oil? Here's some beautiful Venezuelan oil and we've got a special offer on rare timber and nice minerals, buy now, delivery next year
 
If he has influence over Trump — which he does — then he gains influence, I’d say.
He may have influence over Trump but doesn’t have influence over those ‘influential’ American people and corporations who want what Venezuela has to offer.

This is all about America, and stepping on Putin’s and Xi’s toes is a side note.
 
Russia acting against NATO expansion ffs. You’ve been gaslit you daft ****.
Its amazing how Iraq (and it's "WMDs"), Libya, Afghanistan, and now Venezuela were all an existential threat to poor old US and it's European lackeys, and they simply had to unleash war and untold miseries on tens of millions of civilians.

But NATO, expands all the way across Europe to Russia's borders, with the prospect of ballistic missiles and extensive hostile forces right next to it, and it's all hunky dory, Russia should have just accepted it and gone for peace.
 
The joke thread is that way >>>>>

Far from the 25th Amendment, be prepared to hear all about Article 2, and get cheers from all and sundry.

Ends justify the means as soon as the initial outrage dies down. This becomes a propaganda war now. Nobel Peace Prize winner will become the new president, Trump will get full access to mineral wealth and to blow up the narco-farms, and will put aside billions in aid for democratic reforms.

In a few months, Maduro will be rotting in jail somewhere, most people will have forgotten his name and the Trump propaganda machine and their numerous echo chambers will be touting his strength at stepping up to save the hemisphere from a brutal, drug cartel, authoritarian leader.

Noriega anyone?

Writes itself!!!

In the height of irony they could deport him to Venezuela!
 
The only effective and meaningful way that ordinary people can make any imprint of a protest, however insignificant, is to not engage with the World Cup because that is the only thing that can register if enough people do it - and it’s something that people can do if they choose to whereas wholesale boycotting of American products is much more complex and nuanced.

Sadly, I suspect it will not happen in sufficient numbers to have any meaningful impact.
been saying the same for ages, shitgibbon is making difficult for most and impossible for many to travel to america, great, the world simply needs not to go.

For those countries who have qualified for the WC, but are the subject of travel bans, it's a no-brainer from me that they should boycott it.

I'd have no problem whatsoever, indeed I would be quite proud if our FA were to decline to complete, with apologies to Mexico and Canada
 
Its amazing how Iraq (and it's "WMDs"), Libya, Afghanistan, and now Venezuela were all an existential threat to poor old US and it's European lackeys, and they simply had to unleash war and untold miseries on tens of millions of civilians.

But NATO, expands all the way across Europe to Russia's borders, with the prospect of ballistic missiles and extensive hostile forces right next to it, and it's all hunky dory, Russia should have just accepted it and gone for peace.

If Russia wasn’t a threat, counties wouldn’t be joining NATO. Simples.
 

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