Greenland / Trump nonsense.

Well, it's right there in plain sight: Make America Great Again literally means enlarging America territorially rather than ensuring better lives for Americans!
 
The blue phantom said:
Yes

If Trump wants Greenland he takes it, probably without a shot being fired too.
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I doubt it - the Thule Base on Greenland has been down graded from a couple of thousand personnel to about 150 in recent years. Denmark puts a thousand troops on the base (there are 9k Danish troops without reserves in total ) and just tell Trump your guys are ours now and try to land here and we will knock your planes out of the sky. Knock out 3 to 5 transports full of troops in the air trying to land and do you think the American people will support their boys beings dropped out of the skies?
 
bluethrunthru said:
I doubt it - the Thule Base on Greenland has been down graded from a couple of thousand personnel to about 150 in recent years. Denmark puts a thousand troops on the base (there are 9k Danish troops without reserves in total ) and just tell Trump your guys are ours now and try to land here and we will knock your planes out of the sky. Knock out 3 to 5 transports full of troops in the air trying to land and do you think the American people will support their boys beings dropped out of the skies?
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Maybe a shot gets fired then. But ultimately if they want it they'll get it. The US has gone totally rogue and Trump has lunatics.egging him on.
 
Damocles said:
You think NATO is going to allow someone to invade and annex NATO territory with no resistance?

You realise there's several nuclear armed states in NATO right?
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America are in Nato,

Britain and France combined have around 600.

America has 3,500 (That we know about)

Russia has roughly the same.

All this talk is hypothetical anyway, Trump will just annex Greenland without any resistance, just a few mutterings on Facebook.
 
Blue Mist said:
He already has a huge base there so it would be very easy to get troops in.
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As someone who has a hobby like interest in aviation, I'm aware of quite a bit of what goes on in Greenland.

The US does have a base there, and it covers a large area, but it's not a "huge base", it's in the far north of Greenland where they have a "Space Force Base" at Pituffik (formerly Thule). It's not clear how many military personel are based there, but it's likely to be less than a couple of hundred. A lot of it's previous accomodation, built during the cold war, is likely to be out of commission these days, so would likely need major construction. It does have a near 10000 FT runway, so can take most military aircraft, and is open year round. It's basic role is early warning of ICBM, but I'm sure it eavesdrops on russia from there.

There are two other large runways, at airports called Kangerlussuaq, and Narsarsuaq, both former US military bases, but neither have any military based there now as far as I know, though the former often has USAF flying in and out of it, and sometime based there for weeks (mainly summer months), I think they retain some military buildings at both for that use.

The main airport at Nuuk (capital City) was extended about 18 months ago and can take large aircraft now, and regularly has Canadian and USAF visiting aircraft (as well as the rest of NATO), and they are building another longish runway at Ilulissat, so that it can take larger aircraft than the work horse Dash8 of Air Greenland. There are search and rescue and some transport helicopters based around the Island also, and they have daily flights to and from Denmark with an A380 airbus, as well as some chartered (tourist) smaller jets from Iceland, Greenland, and in summer Canada and the USA.

As a result of having this interest, I know there are usually a couple of Danish warships based in and around the capital on rotation from Denmark. Apart from the Danish ships, and the various military aircraft I've mentioned, I've never seen any US military there. Could the US easily take it by force, yes, but I'm not sure they would need too, because any Danish miltary there would be minimal, I would imagine a small garrison, and they probably could just waltze in any time they wanted, but they might be better just asking, and they'd likely get permission anyway.
 
cleavers said:
As someone who has a hobby like interest in aviation, I'm aware of quite a bit of what goes on in Greenland.

The US does have a base there, and it covers a large area, but it's not a "huge base", it's in the far north of Greenland where they have a "Space Force Base" at Pituffik (formerly Thule). It's not clear how many military personel are based there, but it's likely to be less than a couple of hundred. A lot of it's previous accomodation, built during the cold war, is likely to be out of commission these days, so would likely need major construction. It does have a near 10000 FT runway, so can take most military aircraft, and is open year round. It's basic role is early warning of ICBM, but I'm sure it eavesdrops on russia from there.

There are two other large runways, at airports called Kangerlussuaq, and Narsarsuaq, both former US military bases, but neither have any military based there now as far as I know, though the former often has USAF flying in and out of it, and sometime based there for weeks (mainly summer months), I think they retain some military buildings at both for that use.

The main airport at Nuuk (capital City) was extended about 18 months ago and can take large aircraft now, and regularly has Canadian and USAF visiting aircraft (as well as the rest of NATO), and they are building another longish runway at Ilulissat, so that it can take larger aircraft than the work horse Dash8 of Air Greenland. There are search and rescue and some transport helicopters based around the Island also, and they have daily flights to and from Denmark with an A380 airbus, as well as some chartered (tourist) smaller jets from Iceland, Greenland, and in summer Canada and the USA.

As a result of having this interest, I know there are usually a couple of Danish warships based in and around the capital on rotation from Denmark. Apart from the Danish ships, and the various military aircraft I've mentioned, I've never seen any US military there. Could the US easily take it by force, yes, but I'm not sure they would need too, because any Danish miltary there would be minimal, I would imagine a small garrison, and they probably could just waltze in any time they wanted, but they might be better just asking, and they'd likely get permission anyway.
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In the BBC Newsnight programme it was explained that during the cold war the US had 17 bases in Greenland - just one now but it can be enlarged and added to at any time without negotiation under their post WW2 treaty.

The yanks are also welcome to mine its rare minerals exclusively so there is no reason for any annexation - just Trump wanting to meaninglessly inflate his reputation by increasing territory.
 
johnny crossan said:
The yanks are also welcome to mine its rare minerals exclusively so there is no reason for any annexation - just Trump wanting to meaninglessly inflate his EGO by increasing territory.
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Corrected for you.

I'm not sure where the other bases were, I think Kulusuk on the east coast has a longish runway, and there was one in the far northeast, but I think it was one of the first they pulled out of.
 
Is there honestly no Brutus within the US administration that can put a bullet between this ****'s eyes? They're a bunch of fucking cowards.

This guy is dangerous. There's a reason he's been pandering to Putin; it's because he admires him. He's no better than him, and despite Americans being given repeat warnings as to his character, they still, still, voted him in. If it wasn't so terrifying it'd be funny.
 
kippaxwarrior said:
The mad twat is actually going to do it isn't he?

BBC News - US discussing options to acquire Greenland, including use of military - White House
www.bbc.co.uk

US discussing options to acquire Greenland including using military - White House

It came as European allies rallied behind Denmark, which is pushing back against Trump's ambitions for the Arctic island.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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If he does this it’s going to get very uncomfortable for a lot of Americans around the world swiftly. I’ve got friends in America who seem to support this **** no matter what, I’m sorry but they’ll be getting both barrels if this happens, I’d suggest the World Cup will be off as the pressure will be put in teams not to attend by their populations. Unless their own people get a grip of him I see conflicts everywhere as China and others say whats good for the goose.
 

President Donald Trump and his team are considering "a range of options" in order to acquire Greenland, including "utilizing the U.S. Military," White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told CNBC on Tuesday.
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"President Trump has made it well known that acquiring Greenland is a national security priority of the United States, and it's vital to deter our adversaries in the Arctic region," Leavitt said.
"The President and his team are discussing a range of options to pursue this important foreign policy goal, and of course, utilizing the U.S. Military is always an option at the Commander in Chief's disposal," she said.
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