North Stand expansion | Trial Event - Wed 20th May (p110)

richards30 said:
Surely it’s not just match tickets though?
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I don’t work for the number crunchers at City so no idea of regular match day tickets vs corporate and how many attend each game …. Season ticket numbers either or how many are concessions or free tickets (schools etc ?)

What do you suggest ?

I think we are being rinsed enough to be honest .
 
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mancityvstoke said:
I don’t work for the number crunchers at City so no idea of regular match day tickets vs corporate and how many attend each game …. Season ticket numbers either or how many are concessions or free tickets (schools etc ?)

What do you suggest ?

I think we are being rinsed enough to be honest .
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Just strange to be so far behind even the dippers?
 
richards30 said:
Just strange to be so far behind even the dippers?
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Two London clubs average yield per fan shits on us but probably due to tourists visiting London (Arsenal and spurs)

Liverpool are only £5 per fan ahead edit : probably more now
 
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richards30 said:
Just strange to be so far behind even the dippers?
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Ten years ago we were around £50m and Liverpool wer £60m but they had 19% and we had 13%.

They have expanded twice since and just won the league, we were knocked out of the CL before the last 16.

They have higher demand too by a lot.
 
Corky said:
Ten years ago we were around £50m and Liverpool wer £60m but they had 19% and we had 13%.

They have expanded twice since and just won the league, we were knocked out of the CL before the last 16.

They have higher demand too by a lot.
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Demand from tourists?
 
Which Premier League clubs make most from matchdays?

Table showing a list of all 20 current Premier League clubs. Arsenal have the highest average in the Premier League.

ClubAvg gate yield per home matchAvg gate yield per fan
Arsenal£5.1m£84.66
Tottenham£4.9m£79.68
Man Utd£4.3m£58.93
Liverpool£3.1m£55.61
Man City£2.7m£50.63
Chelsea£2.4m£59.76
West Ham£1.9m£33.20
Newcastle£1.6m£30.71
Aston Villa£1.3m£34.03
Brighton£1.1m£31.54
Wolves£0.9m£31.54
Uefa European Club Finance and Investment Landscape report 2024
Converted using €1 = £0.83

How much do Premier League clubs make from tickets?
Football fans can be tribal. But when it comes to ticket prices, there is unity.

When 19 of the Premier League's 20 clubs raised their ticket prices before the 2024-25 season, the Football Supporters' Association (FSA) launched a campaign called 'Stop Exploiting Loyalty'.
Those protests have grown again this season, with some clubs removing concessionary discounts for the elderly and young people - and teams like Arsenalannouncing increases for 2025-26.
The cost of competing for trophies, increasing operational expenses, and the threat of complying with financial regulations, have all been given as reasons for price hikes.



How much do clubs make from ticket sales?

Premier League clubs made a total of almost 1bn euros (£830m) from selling tickets to home matches in 2023, Uefa's European Club Finance and Investment Landscape report shows.
That figure is growing by about 10% per year, and is almost double that of Spain's La Liga (£481m) and Germany's Bundesliga (£430m).
The report uses a mixture of full financial reporting of more than 700 clubs for 2023, plus 2024 figures from 130 of Europe's biggest clubs.
Of the 10 clubs who generated the most income from gate receipts in 2024, six are English.

The same six Premier League clubs feature in the top 12 for another ticketing metric, which measures the money earned per fan, per ticket.

"What the figures show is that English top-flight clubs are doing very well financially in a whole number of different metrics," says Tom Greatrex, chair of the FSA.
"Healthy ticket revenue shows people are wanting to go - but also shows the ratcheting up of ticket prices in the past few years. That is manifesting itself in the protests and disenchantment we've seen."
The report also points out that "stadium expansions and/or increases in premium seating and hospitality have also doubled gate revenues at Paris St-Germain, Bayern [Munich], Liverpool and Manchester Citysince 2009".

Arsenal and Tottenham's positions are helped by sales of high-value hospitality seats at modern stadiums in London - one of the world's most-visited cities.
"What we have seen clubs do through stadium expansion is a huge focus on those seats being hospitality," says Dan Plumley, senior lecturer in sport finance at Sheffield Hallam University.
"On a basic financial level it makes sense, because you can generate more from that than a baseline seat.
"But if that is stopping your more average fan getting a ticket, that is something clubs are going to have to grapple with."
The report states the average amount made per fan from tickets is £29-£37 "for the majority of clubs".
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This has been overtaken now and Liverpool are top it seems … gives you some idea though
 
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richards30 said:
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Our matchday revenue is fucking woeful to be fair isnt it?
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Our match day revenues should get a massive uplift next season from the extra 8000 seats, the hotel, hospitality, events, renting office space, etc.

But! There is no point in adding 8000 seats if the club don’t find ways to fill those 8000 seats.
 
Liverpool won the title last season. Liverpool also had a much better run in the CL games. Anfield was full for every game. Liverpool would have made a fortune on merchandise sales. The majority of the match day revenue at Liverpool comes from match day ticket sales and hospitality. Liverpool only have circa 27,000-28,000 season ticket holders.
 
I read somewhere that every United home match equates to £5m in match revenue

United had 11 home cup matches last season and this season they've had 1

City had 8 home cup matches last season and this season we're guaranteed 9 with possibly more depending on progress
 
richards30 said:
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Our matchday revenue is fucking woeful to be fair isnt it?
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It is, if you compare to us to the like of Madrid, Barcelona and Liverpool. But then if you actually look into it, you realise we don’t have the corporate fanbase or the tourists to produce that kind of revenue increase, compared to those clubs

Shame the club can’t see it, as we aren’t going to be able to fill the north stand next season.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
It is, if you compare to us to the like of Madrid, Barcelona and Liverpool. But then if you actually look into it, you realise we don’t have the corporate fanbase or the tourists to produce that kind of revenue increase, compared to those clubs

Shame the club can’t see it, as we aren’t going to be able to fill the north stand next season.
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But many on here dont want the corporate fanbase mate?
 
jrb said:
Liverpool won the title last season. Liverpool also had a much better run in the CL games. Anfield was full for every game. Liverpool would have made a fortune on merchandise sales. The majority of the match day revenue at Liverpool comes from match day ticket sales and hospitality. Liverpool only have circa 27,000-28,000 season ticket holders.
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But Anfield has less percentage season tickets so has more tourists who spend more money than the locals?
 
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