Atmosphere Thread | 2025/26

bobbyowenquiff said:
So true. There is no doubt that the smear campaign orchestrated by our commercial rivals has slowed the growth of our fanbase. It has been a deliberate campaign by LFC and MUFC to trash our reputation for the last decade and it has worked. The club have been too passive and have allowed it to happen so it is essentially self inflicted.
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Agreed. As fans we've been left to bare the brunt of it with no appreciation from the club. Quite the opposite in fact
 
At some point I think City will start offering a cup season ticket, or compulsory cup tickets with a season ticket, with an option of an opt out of 1 cup. If only 35,000 turned up last night as reported, with an extra 8000 seats to fill next season, even the unfazed and unflappable Soriano might start getting anxious about the dwindling cup attendances, with Newcastle to come next week, and another CL game at home.

This is an option at United.

Cup Season Tickets​

We are delighted to launch a new Season Ticket product, the ‘Cup Season Ticket’, which will guarantee those fans who are unable to obtain Full Season Tickets, their own seat to every unmissable home cup game played at Old Trafford next season. You will make an initial payment for the 3x Europa league Group Stage games, and then other matches will be allocated as we are drawn to be at home.​

 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
I suspect that some people had to choose between Galatasaray and Newcastle, but couldn't afford/be arsed doing both

Also, let's not forget that poverty shaming is only a criminal offence if it's aimed at Merseyside supporters
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That’s it

Many of our fans just set cba and that’s the bottom line

Each to their own and personal choice but we have always had a weird unpredictable support . Filling smaller games and struggling sometimes for others
 
Lavinda Past said:
That "tidal wave of lies" has successfully convinced virtually every non-City football 'fan' that we were formed out of plastic in 2008 by glory seeking cheating a***s.

It's in the national and international psyche. There's an entire generation of kids who only know us as Manchester Cheaty. They're never going to be City fans whatever the club does.

A multi billionaire owner who bent over backwards to recreate Barcelona here in Manchester employing Soriano and Bergiristain to 'set the stage' for the world's greatest coach;; with finances available for him to sign 'Galactico' standard players.

I'd honestly assume that some 15% to 20% of fans actually attending games at the Etihad are only there because of Pep Guardiola and, to a lesser extent, Erling Haaland.

As for the all-important (to Soriano and Co) City social media following, I'd guess that at at least 75% of them are following Pep rather than the club.

I said when we were taken over that we should be careful what we wished for. The game has changed beyond belief. We're ready and geared up for the next level of the game... whatever version of a Super League is to come.

The City Group is ready. They've created the ultimate 'plastic club', ready to rake in corporate money.

Traditional fans are, quite literally, a dying breed. We're witnessing the last knockings of local football at top level. The City Group / ADUG have sold our soul. It's not our club any more... it's just the name we're hanging on to.
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It's still my club LP. I love them as much as I ever did. I'm quite happy to trade off the downsides with the glory, the success, the European trips, the cup finals. I still love the matchdays. They are just different.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
It's still my club LP. I love them as much as I ever did. I'm quite happy to trade off the downsides with the glory, the success, the European trips, the cup finals. I still love the matchdays. They are just different.
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It will always be our club in our hearts Dave.

However, I genuinely believe that the City Group will never actually understand or appreciate traditional support, because they don't need to.

Since 2008, they've created their own history, and the local, traditional fans don't play a major part of it. They're now creating their own view of the future, and traditional (dare I say, working class) support will play even less of a part.

They've created a plastic monster, and it's sad.
 
jrb said:
At some point I think City will start offering a cup season ticket, or compulsory cup tickets with a season ticket, with an option of an opt out of 1 cup. If only 35,000 turned up last night as reported, with an extra 8000 seats to fill next season, even the unfazed and unflappable Soriano might start getting anxious about the dwindling cup attendances, with Newcastle to come next week, and another CL game at home.

This is an option at United.

Cup Season Tickets​

We are delighted to launch a new Season Ticket product, the ‘Cup Season Ticket’, which will guarantee those fans who are unable to obtain Full Season Tickets, their own seat to every unmissable home cup game played at Old Trafford next season. You will make an initial payment for the 3x Europa league Group Stage games, and then other matches will be allocated as we are drawn to be at home.​

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There used to be a time when I thought this should have been wrapped up in the season ticket costs, so it offered a decent price for supporters and the club a reasonably guaranteed gate. As you say United have done it for years and that’s inflated their gate.

I worry season tickets and European fixtures have been devalued to such an extent now that there would be a low uptake and if the club forced it on people, they would just give up their season ticket.

It really can’t be underestimated how much the have pissed loyal Blues off, can it. So many proper supporters lost and possibly lost forever, it’s really depressing. It will be a joy the day that Soriano walks out of the door.
 
Lavinda Past said:
It will always be our club in our hearts Dave.

However, I genuinely believe that the City Group will never actually understand or appreciate traditional support, because they don't need to.

Since 2008, they've created their own history, and the local, traditional fans don't play a major part of it. They're now creating their own view of the future, and traditional (dare I say, working class) support will play even less of a part.

They've created a plastic monster, and it's sad.
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Yeah, I get it and agree. If they were really switched on they could have maintained the City "identity" much better. We were the coolest club in England to support once in the days of Oasis, Mark and Lard, Chris Evans etc.

They could try to recover some of that with this new stand but it's a bit late.
 
mrtwiceaseason said:
A new junior blues would of meant the prima donna players having to interact with local Manchester kids ,they only give a fuck about growing the brand on overseas tours by meeting overseas kids .
Besides the photo opp Christmas hospital visit they couldn't give a shite about Manchester kids ,I actually think citizens competitions are fixed to overseas winners.
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all competitions tend to be as there is always a flight attached to the prize, nothing ever for the locals
 
jrb said:
At some point I think City will start offering a cup season ticket, or compulsory cup tickets with a season ticket, with an option of an opt out of 1 cup. If only 35,000 turned up last night as reported, with an extra 8000 seats to fill next season, even the unfazed and unflappable Soriano might start getting anxious about the dwindling cup attendances, with Newcastle to come next week, and another CL game at home.

This is an option at United.

Cup Season Tickets​

We are delighted to launch a new Season Ticket product, the ‘Cup Season Ticket’, which will guarantee those fans who are unable to obtain Full Season Tickets, their own seat to every unmissable home cup game played at Old Trafford next season. You will make an initial payment for the 3x Europa league Group Stage games, and then other matches will be allocated as we are drawn to be at home.​

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If they do that, the prices would go up and more people would stop going, so I don’t see how that would solve it. United fans are forced to because they have legions of tourists ready to take their place - we don’t have that.

Even if they offered a price for all the group games, it’s still too much money and I don’t see the incentive. People like to pick and choose games
 
jrb said:
At some point I think City will start offering a cup season ticket, or compulsory cup tickets with a season ticket, with an option of an opt out of 1 cup. If only 35,000 turned up last night as reported, with an extra 8000 seats to fill next season, even the unfazed and unflappable Soriano might start getting anxious about the dwindling cup attendances, with Newcastle to come next week, and another CL game at home.

This is an option at United.

Cup Season Tickets​

We are delighted to launch a new Season Ticket product, the ‘Cup Season Ticket’, which will guarantee those fans who are unable to obtain Full Season Tickets, their own seat to every unmissable home cup game played at Old Trafford next season. You will make an initial payment for the 3x Europa league Group Stage games, and then other matches will be allocated as we are drawn to be at home.​

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United have the fan base to offer or bribe that type of stuff city don’t
 
Cityfan1977 said:
There is no doubt in my mind why Liverpool, United, Arsenal , Barcelona etc are full and we not.
Anfield is not full of local Liverpool supportes. Its turist and not all of them are die hard Liverpool supportes.

I live in Iceland and I know that the same story goes for Norway and Sweden, Danmark and other europen countries.
tourist come all year arond to Manchester, London and Liverpool. I see ad every day "go to UK and see a football match ", the only teams that get mention in those adds are Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal sometime Chelsea.
Go experiance the atmosphere at Anfield drink it in.

Manchester City is painted a soulless club with no atmosphere a cheats and plastic with half empty stadium.

This has been hammered into people for 15 years , in podcasts, in news and everywere.
For the tourist who are not all in like we are and we have to admit they are the ones who are filling , Anfield and Old Trafford. They see it like going to the movies or theater they read the "review" going to Etihad and it is not good read.

We all know how the Etihad can be as good as any ground in the world for the right games, I was at Etihad for the Aquero moment and I know that not a single Liverpool fan has ever experiance anything like it.

But others dont know that .

The media,#115 and other things has hurt us realy bad and is the main reason why Etihad is not always full.

I know this for a fact I know how City are talked about , I know that people non City fans dont want to go to a City match because they think that its no fun, But I know non Liverpool fan want to go to Anfield because they have been told its such a experiance nothing like it.

City is also to blame, they unlike others clubs we are competing with have no PR nothing.
They dont care if there are empty seats, Liverpool PR hides it when there are empty seats at Anfield wich happenes.
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A really interesting take from over seas.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
If they do that, the prices would go up and more people would stop going, so I don’t see how that would solve it. United fans are forced to because they have legions of tourists ready to take their place - we don’t have that.

Even if they offered a price for all the group games, it’s still too much money and I don’t see the incentive. People like to pick and choose games
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United have changed their attend 2 and opt out of 1 cup tournaments. It’s something different now. I won’t post it as it will take the discussion off topic and about United.
 
Mcfc1.9.8.0 said:
United have the fan base to offer or bribe that type of stuff city don’t
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We should be after over a decade of success. The drop off has been huge, but it has happened gradually. The warning signs have been there for a long time. Instead of City acting on those warning signs and trying to stem the flow of City fans giving up on going to the matches, the club has made it worse by making it harder to buy tickets, and by introducing new draconian ticket transfer rules and attendance rules. Match by match, season after season, Soriano, Danny Wilson, and the other directors have seen more and more empty seats appearing at home games, bar the big games, with their own eyes, sat in the directors box. Yet they plough on regardless with the new match day ticket polices. Don’t forget, if it wasn’t for the fans protests last season and Khaldoon intervening, ticket prices would still be as expensive as they were before the protests.
 
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Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
If they do that, the prices would go up and more people would stop going, so I don’t see how that would solve it. United fans are forced to because they have legions of tourists ready to take their place - we don’t have that.

Even if they offered a price for all the group games, it’s still too much money and I don’t see the incentive. People like to pick and choose games
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You’d only pay for any additional cup home games with cheaper ticket prices. As it is, City are losing money with people not going to the cup games.

I’ve dropped the CL and Carabao cups schemes this season. I’ve been in them from the start. I’ve kept the FA Cup scheme. I will be at the next CL game. I will have to pay more for my CL ticket, but I accepted I would have to do that when I'm dropped the CL scheme and miss out on the cheaper tickets.

I dropped the CL cup scheme because I was tired of being surrounded by football tourist, fans of other clubs, and *away fans*. Fans videoing the game. People not joining in with the singing because they didn’t know the chants. And the general deteriorating CL atmospheres. The 2 Real Madrid home games were the final straw for me.Real Madrid fans all over the ground, when the home ends should have been packed full of genuine City fans cheering the team on.

I will never forget of forgive City for selling citizen membership cards to anyone before the Real Madrid match. It was a disgusting ploy by the club to make more money, and giving whoever bought a citizens membership card the chance to buy a match ticket, instead of giving that chance to genuine City fans first. To the club, money then, and still is now more important than our (local) fan base.
 
One of the more vocal parts of the ground, SSL3, is often handed over to away supporters because it’s near the car park. I am not aware of any other ground in Europe where the home ‘end’ is surrendered and the fans dispersed over the rest of the ground.
It’s a ridiculous situation, and the club need to have a good look at themselves.
SSL1/0 is ok but you can’t hear it in 3. You can’t hear 3 in most of 1.
Put the away supporters high up in EAST 3, one spiral and a fence sorts it.
Concentrate the home fans in their usual seats and things will improve.
Imagine the dippers giving half the kop away? Stretford end? Barca? RM? Bayern, Dortmund? Milan? Even county and the Cheadle end? Come on City directors, stop fucking supporters off just for a few quid.
And put fucking nets around when it’s dippers or euro tossers. Catch their own coins and flares.
 
jrb said:
At some point I think City will start offering a cup season ticket, or compulsory cup tickets with a season ticket, with an option of an opt out of 1 cup. If only 35,000 turned up last night as reported, with an extra 8000 seats to fill next season, even the unfazed and unflappable Soriano might start getting anxious about the dwindling cup attendances, with Newcastle to come next week, and another CL game at home.

This is an option at United.

Cup Season Tickets​

We are delighted to launch a new Season Ticket product, the ‘Cup Season Ticket’, which will guarantee those fans who are unable to obtain Full Season Tickets, their own seat to every unmissable home cup game played at Old Trafford next season. You will make an initial payment for the 3x Europa league Group Stage games, and then other matches will be allocated as we are drawn to be at home.​

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I did a bit of research a few years ago and loads of clubs across Europe had (at the time of the old 6-match Group Stage) CL Group Stage tickets included as part of their Season Tickets. So fans didn’t have to pay any extra for CL Group Stage games on top of their ST payments until the KO stage.

‘Season Ticket’ applied to anything ‘League’ based. So, at the time, would have been 19 league games (17 in the Bundesliga) and 3 CL games, as part of your ST.

Off the top of my head the clubs I remember were clubs like: Madrid Dortmund Milan… and there were many others. So, not just smaller clubs looking after their core support; the biggest clubs do it.

It’s a great initiative and something I feel City have really missed a trick on over the years and now we’ve lost 10-15,000 who will be very hard to ever get back attending CL games.
 
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