President Trump

kippaxwarrior said:
Just looked at Vue cinema at The Printworks for the Melania documentary for tomorrow, Saturday and Sunday. Out of the 8 showings for those 3 days 7 people have booked tickets.....
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I was in the cinema on Monday and a trailer came on for this and my first thought was “why” followed by “not a prayer I’m watching that”

Clearly I’m not alone.
 
KS55 said:
The End of Trump.
Serious moves are now afoot in the Republican Party to break Trump. The immediate cause is a leaked conversation in which Trump says “Congress works for me” and demands support for powers to call for passing of an Insurrection Act.
For a group of senators this is the last straw and they organise a revolt, saying they will vote with the Democrats against the bill conferring these powers on Trump. Trump threatens to primary every senator opposed to his policy, calling them traitors. Letters are flying between the group of senators and the White House. Trump’s chaos will do for him.
Watch this space.
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Source?
 
OntarioBlue said:
I was in the cinema on Monday and a trailer came on for this and my first thought was “why” followed by “not a prayer I’m watching that”

Clearly I’m not alone.
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You would be if you went inside to watch it.
It would be like going into a blue movie cinema c.1980
 
Blue Maverick said:
And I still don’t get why anyone who is black or brown would vote for him, surely they must see whats going on, the mind boggles.
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This is probably not the time, or thread, for reflection rather than reflexively agreeing, but many, many people do not vote for the person, they vote for the party…or against the other party. This is why Republicans create a cultural divide…to separate you and your beliefs from the other party!

Abortion is the easiest example, but gun rights is another, taxation is another…

After the first Trump term, anyone who was not diametrically opposed to who Trump was, but was a “cultural” voter, was NEVER going to vote for an untested black woman who had lurked in the shadows of a President they felt was weak, manipulated by the far left, gripped by dementia, and their cultural opposite.

THOSE are the voters who literally BLINDED voted for Trump and helped propel him to victory. Indeed, it is wishful thinking to believe that Harris looked, felt, or even smelled like a winning candidate, let alone the kind of strong woman America was looking for.

Those in the large population centers are the generally well educated, high earning, more liberal voters, who are immersed in culture, news and information. Drive 30 miles out of town and you find yourself in another world, where completely different beliefs are both fostered and desperately clung on to. They wonder why they pay so much federal tax when the problems the Feds are supposed to be dealing with seem so foreign to them? They wonder how any politician in Washington could have any idea what is going on in Podunk, USA, let alone have a mind to fix it? They ask where their hard earned tax money is going when it gets to Washington…and have been told (almost without opposition) that it is to fund “The Deep State” and is sloshing around in “The Swamp” that Republicans are going to drain.

Propaganda and ideology are very, very powerful tools in politics, as we all know, and if you can penetrate the shell of a low information voter (usually by feeding them the red meat cultural issues on Fox), you can cultivate a voter for life.

For many, it’s not about Trump AT ALL, it’s about Left vs Right cultural issues that, in many cases, are recently manufactured for this exact purpose. Focus groups discuss them, political pollsters verify them, political parties solidify them, national candidates run on them, and “the people” feel “heard.”

There’s nothing revelatory in what I’m saying here, but it’s NOT all about Trump, but when it is, the response is often, “Yeah, but at least he’s doing something about it, which is more than that knee pad wearing, woke DEI candidate black woman and Democrats would have done!”

And here we are, just one short year later, reaping the whirlwind!
 
BlueNomad said:
This is probably not the time, or thread, for reflection rather than reflexively agreeing, but many, many people do not vote for the person, they vote for the party…or against the other party. This is why Republicans create a cultural divide…to separate you and your beliefs from the other party!

Abortion is the easiest example, but gun rights is another, taxation is another…

After the first Trump term, anyone who was not diametrically opposed to who Trump was, but was a “cultural” voter, was NEVER going to vote for an untested black woman who had lurked in the shadows of a President they felt was weak, manipulated by the far left, gripped by dementia, and their cultural opposite.

THOSE are the voters who literally BLINDED voted for Trump and helped propel him to victory. Indeed, it is wishful thinking to believe that Harris looked, felt, or even smelled like a winning candidate, let alone the kind of strong woman America was looking for.

Those in the large population centers are the generally well educated, high earning, more liberal voters, who are immersed in culture, news and information. Drive 30 miles out of town and you find yourself in another world, where completely different beliefs are both fostered and desperately clung on to. They wonder why they pay so much federal tax when the problems the Feds are supposed to be dealing with seem so foreign to them? They wonder how any politician in Washington could have any idea what is going on in Podunk, USA, let alone have a mind to fix it? They ask where their hard earned tax money is going when it gets to Washington…and have been told (almost without opposition) that it is to fund “The Deep State” and is sloshing around in “The Swamp” that Republicans are going to drain.

Propaganda and ideology are very, very powerful tools in politics, as we all know, and if you can penetrate the shell of a low information voter (usually by feeding them the red meat cultural issues on Fox), you can cultivate a voter for life.

For many, it’s not about Trump AT ALL, it’s about Left vs Right cultural issues that, in many cases, are recently manufactured for this exact purpose. Focus groups discuss them, political pollsters verify them, political parties solidify them, national candidates run on them, and “the people” feel “heard.”

There’s nothing revelatory in what I’m saying here, but it’s NOT all about Trump, but when it is, the response is often, “Yeah, but at least he’s doing something about it, which is more than that knee pad wearing, woke DEI candidate black woman and Democrats would have done!”

And here we are, just one short year later, reaping the whirlwind!
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I agree with this. Really excellent post. That's what's so depressing, harkening back to my Trump-supporting friends who aren't anything like MAGA -- just economic conservatives who look on nearly all politicians with disdain, or born-and-bred traditional Republicans. Whatever happens, I can't see them voting for any Democrat, ever, not out of cultish loyalty or personal devotion to Trump's "ideals", but simply because they'd never buy light beer when regular beer was available, even if the regular beer poisoned them.
 
KS55 said:
The End of Trump.
Serious moves are now afoot in the Republican Party to break Trump. The immediate cause is a leaked conversation in which Trump says “Congress works for me” and demands support for powers to call for passing of an Insurrection Act.
For a group of senators this is the last straw and they organise a revolt, saying they will vote with the Democrats against the bill conferring these powers on Trump. Trump threatens to primary every senator opposed to his policy, calling them traitors. Letters are flying between the group of senators and the White House. Trump’s chaos will do for him.
Watch this space.
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In the meantime in the House . . .

www.democracydocket.com

New GOP anti-voting bill may be the most dangerous attack on voting rights ever

The MEGA Act represents one of the most catastrophic proposals for democracy in the United States.
www.democracydocket.com www.democracydocket.com

So forgive me if I’m skeptical of your take, much as I’d like not to be.

That said, “slowly, then quickly” applies across a variety of political change points, (like Watergate for instance) so I guess we’ll see. Granted it would be unlikely for any GOPer to commit to something like this without knowing everyone else had his/her back. Plus I haven’t seen much evidence of spine possession in the GOP lately.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:


Coming to a town near you Trump’s America ? In ten years time it will be like this here, it nearly always follows if the far right agenda isn’t stopped.
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GESTAPO tactics!

You are lesser, I own you.
The State is on my side.
You have no rights here.

Policing in America today has blurred the lines between the tactics often used to apprehend the most dangerous people and the treatment of law-abiding citizens. EVERYBODY is fair game and they will run you over with their drunk with power attitude.

Someone is going to kill an ICE or CBP Officer and all Hell is going to break loose!

Second Amendment??? That’s just for division and votes, because if anyone needed any help realizing those guns were NEVER going to be used to blunt tyranny, they’re watching it daily on the news!

Waco, Ruby Ridge…the Minnesota streets???

What the fuck is going on and WHEN THE FUCK IS CONGRESS GOING TO GROW A SET OF BALLS??

These counts fight tooth and nail to get the title, and have simply bent the knee and handed it over to Stephen Miller and his Stormtroopers!

CONGRESS…BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE…NEEDS TO STEP UP AND TAKE CONTROL BACK FROM PRESIDENT DEMENTIA AND HIS MEGALOMANIACS!!
 
KS55 said:
The End of Trump.
Serious moves are now afoot in the Republican Party to break Trump. The immediate cause is a leaked conversation in which Trump says “Congress works for me” and demands support for powers to call for passing of an Insurrection Act.
For a group of senators this is the last straw and they organise a revolt, saying they will vote with the Democrats against the bill conferring these powers on Trump. Trump threatens to primary every senator opposed to his policy, calling them traitors. Letters are flying between the group of senators and the White House. Trump’s chaos will do for him.
Watch this space.
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Not surprised Trump is going for that.
I expected something like that so he can do away with democracy when the time comes.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
In the meantime in the House . . .

www.democracydocket.com

New GOP anti-voting bill may be the most dangerous attack on voting rights ever

The MEGA Act represents one of the most catastrophic proposals for democracy in the United States.
www.democracydocket.com www.democracydocket.com

So forgive me if I’m skeptical of your take, much as I’d like not to be.

That said, “slowly, then quickly” applies across a variety of political change points, (like Watergate for instance) so I guess we’ll see. Granted it would be unlikely for any GOPer to commit to something like this without knowing everyone else had his/her back. Plus I haven’t seen much evidence of spine possession in the GOP lately.
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Impeachment of Noem in the event she is not sacked has support from some republicans. You are right, though, that until there is action scepticism is the wisest course.
 
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