VAR Discussion Thread

Bluekiwi said:
According to Fulham's manager, VAR went to great lengths to find something for the rags today. The ref had awarded the rags a penalty for a foul - VAR overturned it because the defender got the ball first. But VAR then went back in play and found a shirt pull outside the area and instructed the ref to award a freekick - from which they scored. VAR was only supposed to check the error in awarding the penalty - nothing else.
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Watched the game and thought the exact same thing. I didn’t think VAR could award anything outside the box that previously had’nt been given on review?!? I might be wrong, but if not that stinks. It’s effectively rereffing the game when suits…
 
Beanhead said:
Watched the game and thought the exact same thing. I didn’t think VAR could award anything outside the box that previously had’nt been given on review?!? I might be wrong, but if not that stinks. It’s effectively rereffing the game when suits…
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Just make a new rule as they go along.

They keep doing it to fuck us over so, may as well go double bubble.
 
Blue Mist said:
We've spent I don't know how many seasons having to be better than the team against us and the ref and Var.
Yes we played poorly in both halves but that is for the match day thread.
This thread is titled Var Discussion Thread not We Played Shit in The Second Half Thread.

We are discussing the fact that 2 men hauled Haaland down. The ref and his wanker with the flag didn't see it, Var decided the mauling was before the ball had been kicked and instead of 2 bookings and a retaken corner they get a goal kick.

We are definitely refereed and Vard differently and it's so fucking annoying it's driving Blues insane.
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The var/ref is unfair and unacceptable. I don’t care how crazy it makes me sound. We are royally getting shafted week after week.

The prevailing view will always be…your mental. I can see corruption plain and simple. When we are shit we deserve to get beat. I can see that also. both observations are true.

The players and pep and the club and the fans are fucking sick of if.

Haaland never gets a fk.

We never get a pen.

Var in our favour is scrutinised inch by inch.

It’s constant and won’t be going away because it’s subjective, refs are human and you guessed it…we are all mental. Laugh at it. Sore losers blah blah blah.
 
Just read an article that Villa had a goal disallowed when VAR trawled back 13 seconds of play to find a reason to disallow their goal - the ball supposedly went out of play. Smacks of a concerted ploy by the PL / VAR to make sure that Arsenal win the title.
 
I'll be honest I was all for var after the way dippers were help to win the *covid pl.
How wrong was i ?
So much so that I'm falling out of love with football. It's not just this season, I'm still pissed by the Rashford not interfering with play off side rags goal.
Since around Christmas time the decisions going against City have been farcical.
8 mins to try and find a clear and obvious reason to disallowed our second at Newcastle. Same team in the pl clear penalty on Foden, Newcastle off side goal. Wolves clear hand ball penalty.

Yesterday was a new low with VAR and the pl lying to try and cover it up. PL awarded the goal to the spuds player to protect their mates VAR.
Spuds player kick through the back never touch the ball, yet somehow its not a foul and its his goal lol. In 60 plus years of watching football i was under the impression you could only be awarded a goal if you touched the fucking ball

Im at the stage now were I dont understand football, dont understand what is or isnt off side, what is or isn't a foul.

The one big thing that has got me questioning myself about football is corners. How have corners been allowed to turn into a wrestling match ? It's farcical i thought hold was a foul.
Arsenal are allowed to block the keeper from every corner or dead ball.
Why are rules such as holding and obstruction being ignored ?

Just to make things clear i think its across most teams. Different is when the dippers or rags moan they then get every decision go their way. Whe Pep calls it out the cartel press jump on Pep

Never forget an ex chairman of the pl said they have a plan to have different winners ever few years. Seems VAR has been brought as part of that plan
 
Bluekiwi said:
According to Fulham's manager, VAR went to great lengths to find something for the rags today. The ref had awarded the rags a penalty for a foul - VAR overturned it because the defender got the ball first. But VAR then went back in play and found a shirt pull outside the area and instructed the ref to award a freekick - from which they scored. VAR was only supposed to check the error in awarding the penalty - nothing else.
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Rerefing the game
 
VAR has driven a coach & four through the already very fragile laws of the game.
 
give it to gordon said:
I'll be honest I was all for var after the way dippers were help to win the *covid pl.
How wrong was i ?
So much so that I'm falling out of love with football. It's not just this season, I'm still pissed by the Rashford not interfering with play off side rags goal.
Since around Christmas time the decisions going against City have been farcical.
8 mins to try and find a clear and obvious reason to disallowed our second at Newcastle. Same team in the pl clear penalty on Foden, Newcastle off side goal. Wolves clear hand ball penalty.

Yesterday was a new low with VAR and the pl lying to try and cover it up. PL awarded the goal to the spuds player to protect their mates VAR.
Spuds player kick through the back never touch the ball, yet somehow its not a foul and its his goal lol. In 60 plus years of watching football i was under the impression you could only be awarded a goal if you touched the fucking ball

Im at the stage now were I dont understand football, dont understand what is or isnt off side, what is or isn't a foul.

The one big thing that has got me questioning myself about football is corners. How have corners been allowed to turn into a wrestling match ? It's farcical i thought hold was a foul.
Arsenal are allowed to block the keeper from every corner or dead ball.
Why are rules such as holding and obstruction being ignored ?

Just to make things clear i think its across most teams. Different is when the dippers or rags moan they then get every decision go their way. Whe Pep calls it out the cartel press jump on Pep

Never forget an ex chairman of the pl said they have a plan to have different winners ever few years. Seems VAR has been brought as part of that plan
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Very good post. Sums up my feelings too. I too have been watching for over 50 years and losing/poor results/displays were part of the game. You watch, take your disappointment, discuss snc move on. Sometimes, discussion would be about the ref/linesman being poor but then you move on and next game we might get a lucky decision.
But now we have intense scrutiny from VAR and gaslighting us that what we can see with our eyes is not true and it has completely ruined the game. The decisions are so blatant it is obviously bent allied with incompetence.
Let's be clear, in the old days (I.e 7 years ago) we would have been pissed off that the Spurs goal was given but it happened so fast you can understand why the ref gave the goal......... but how can anyone excuse VAR?
 
Bluekiwi said:
According to Fulham's manager, VAR went to great lengths to find something for the rags today. The ref had awarded the rags a penalty for a foul - VAR overturned it because the defender got the ball first. But VAR then went back in play and found a shirt pull outside the area and instructed the ref to award a freekick - from which they scored. VAR was only supposed to check the error in awarding the penalty - nothing else.
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But that is not what VAR said.
The ref supposedly awarded a penalty for the pull, not the tackle.
VAR reviewed and said the shirt pull was outside the box and so was a free kick and not a penalty.
That's what they claim anyway but like everything else its so difficult to know what is happening we are having to second guess.
 
Our resident claret and blue wind up merchant and VAR fanboy has gone very quiet recently. Even he can’t defend this shit show
 
Bluekiwi said:
According to Fulham's manager, VAR went to great lengths to find something for the rags today. The ref had awarded the rags a penalty for a foul - VAR overturned it because the defender got the ball first. But VAR then went back in play and found a shirt pull outside the area and instructed the ref to award a freekick - from which they scored. VAR was only supposed to check the error in awarding the penalty - nothing else.
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PGMOL are a law unto themselves, protected and able to implement/use any excuse they choose to justify their decisions. Laws of the game don't necessarily apply when they are involved.

Conspiracy theorists will always claim nonsense, but the PL and PGMOL being inextricably linked, the redshirt cartel having massive sway, and clubs such as City and Newcastle challenging their status quo, are enough reasons for " undue
influence" being evident in games.

PL/PGMOL sticking two fingers up to supporters on a regular basis ?

Absolutely
 
Handball laws regarding a player sliding or falling to the floor have been interpreted to death, but what about a player who is actually sat on the floor and has both of his arms outstretched behind his back, supporting him whilst sitting on the floor?
Is that natural or unnecessary?
Can he not sit without his arms behind him supporting him?
Do they need to be there or is he making his seated profile un-naturally bigger by doing this?
This section of the laws disregards intent as a factor, so when he moves his arms around, regardless of any intent, is he not at risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised?

That melee near the end where this happened (I think it was the one immediately prior to "the corner"), one of our penalty appeals was thrown out and we were told that it was due to the defender apparently not intending to make contact with the ball.

Harsh? Probably; but I bet we'll see an example where it's given and it's all PGMoL's fault for writing the laws in such an ambiguous, woolly manner. But it's done by design
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
Handball laws regarding a player sliding or falling to the floor have been interpreted to death, but what about a player who is actually sat on the floor and has both of his arms outstretched behind his back, supporting him whilst sitting on the floor?
Is that natural or unnecessary?
Can he not sit without his arms behind him supporting him?
Do they need to be there or is he making his seated profile un-naturally bigger by doing this?
This section of the laws disregards intent as a factor, so when he moves his arms around, regardless of any intent, is he not at risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised?

That melee near the end where this happened (I think it was the one immediately prior to "the corner"), one of our penalty appeals was thrown out and we were told that it was due to the defender apparently not intending to make contact with the ball.

Harsh? Probably; but I bet we'll see an example where it's given and it's all PGMoL's fault for writing the laws in such an ambiguous, woolly manner. But it's done by design
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Always the "get out of jail free" card for PGMOL, and planned to be exactly that.
 
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Bluekiwi said:
Just read an article that Villa had a goal disallowed when VAR trawled back 13 seconds of play to find a reason to disallow their goal - the ball supposedly went out of play. Smacks of a concerted ploy by the PL / VAR to make sure that Arsenal win the title.
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19 seconds. The longest pre-goal incident to be considered before a goal being disallowed in the Premier League.

Xhavenjoe said:
But that is not what VAR said.
The ref supposedly awarded a penalty for the pull, not the tackle.
VAR reviewed and said the shirt pull was outside the box and so was a free kick and not a penalty.
That's what they claim anyway but like everything else its so difficult to know what is happening we are having to second guess.
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Then why did the referee blow the whistle after the tackle (5 yards inside the area), well after the shirt pulling had stopped (outside the area)?

Because they’re making shit up as they go, that’s why.
 
It's an absolute disgrace.

We can all blame Pep and the players all we want but if VAR and the bent officials did their jobs correctly we'd probably be top of the league now.

Too many clear and obvious errors going against us to suggest it's not bent. Can deal with one or two but we must be near double figures this season.
 
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